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Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:09 PM

A Short Film by Mitt Romney:

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Response to rh24 (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:12 PM

1. Obama the lesser should have listened to the wiser Romney.

Not only did he play down the threat, he also mocked Romney. That's legacy material there!

Some say that Obama was the greatest Putin Puppet ever and had immense flexibility in helping Putin.

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Response to rh24 (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:15 PM

2. Russia has not been "the biggest geopolitical threat facing America" for decades.

Obama was right, Romney is a chump.

They are an adversary, but so are Cuba, North Korea, and Iran. Are they all the "the biggest geopolitical threat facing America"? Of course not.

Go back to sleep.

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Response to GordieG (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:20 PM

3. You go grab some zzz's, Gramps.

And then tell us why the Donks want to start World War III because John Podesta was too fucking stupid to not recognize a phishing link?

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Response to rh24 (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:23 PM

4. So, you dorks are finally dropping your adoration of the Russians?

What a hoot.

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Response to GordieG (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 02:24 PM

5. Saying Cuba, NK and Iran are adversaries does not mean that Russia is not our biggest threat.

There is a failure of logic there.

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Response to GordieG (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:59 PM

6. Cuba, North Korea, Iran???

Did you really "say" that with a straight face. By the numbers

Cuba - 0 nuclear weapons
Iran - 0 nuclear weapons
North Korea - 6 to 8 nuclear weapons
Russia - 7,300 nuclear weapons

I realise you'll do anything to preserve the image that Barack "JV" Obama is a font of wisdom, but this?

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:19 PM

7. Are you saying they are not adversaries?

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Response to GordieG (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:00 PM

8. It appears that is what you were trying to say.

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Response to rh24 (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:21 PM

9. You are so cute, Kermie!

You twist words, troll, and insult, and then act all innocent. So precious!

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Response to GordieG (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:12 PM

10. No, but in the context of the Romney and your God-Emperor exchange

Neither was speaking of "adversaries," but rather of significant (or the greatest) geo-political threats. While your guy jscored some presentation points in his comeback, Romney was correct and the person who called ISIS the "JV" was clearly wrong.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:26 PM

11. In 2012, ISIS was the JV. That began to change when God-Emporer killed bin Laden.

At the time of the exchange in the film, Obama was correct.

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Response to GordieG (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:42 PM

12. When he made that statement ISIS had just taken Fallujah

Obama subsequently tried to lie his way out by saying he wasn't referring specifically to ISIS, but the fact checkers deem that false...

Obama said his JV comment "wasn’t specifically referring to ISIL." He was not specifically asked about Islamic State, but it’s pretty clear this is the group that was being referenced in the conversation. The transcript backs this up, as do news events from the time of the discussion.

We rate the statement False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/sep/07/barack-obama/what-obama-said-about-islamic-state-jv-team/


Ok, now that we've set that straight, let's go back to the Romney/God Emporer exchange...

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:21 PM

13. You've lost your mind. Fallujah fell in 2014.

Enough of your bullshit.

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Response to GordieG (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:47 PM

14. You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

The origin of the comment is a New Yorker profile of Obama by editor David Remnick. The New Yorker published Remnick’s profile on Jan. 27, 2014. In it, he wrote, "In the 2012 campaign, Obama spoke not only of killing Osama bin Laden; he also said that Al Qaeda had been ‘decimated.’ I pointed out that the flag of Al Qaeda is now flying in Fallujah, in Iraq, and among various rebel factions in Syria; Al Qaeda has asserted a presence in parts of Africa, too."

Obama responded: "The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant." (For the nonsports fan, JV stands for junior varsity, and it usually means a high school or college's secondary team.)
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/sep/07/barack-obama/what-obama-said-about-islamic-state-jv-team/


Your God-Emperor's JV comment was in 2014. When you want to have discussions with adults, come back; until then, well you know...

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:14 PM

15. The Battle for Fallujah started 12/30/13 and was over by 1/4/14

On 30 December 2013, Iraqi forces dismantled a Sunni protest camp, which angered many people. Gunmen proceeded to attack deployed army patrols on the highway.

On 2 January 2014, Al-Qaeda seized control of parts of the town, as well as nearby Ramadi. After the army withdrew from the area ISIS fighters and its allies entered both cities. Many videos showed ISIS forces clashing with police forces, and ISIS attacks and seizures on the main police station. 100 inmates were freed, weapons and ammunition were seized, and most police forces abandoned their posts.

On January 3, the town was reportedly under the control of Sunni Rebels, but Iraq said the city remained contested. The rebels set police vehicles ablaze and brandished their weapons. The rebels raised their flag in Fallujah, took over all police stations, and military posts after security forces left the city.

Most recently, on January 4, the town was taken by Sunni Rebels and Al-Qaeda fighters. The Iraqi army shelled the city with mortars in an attempt to wrestle back the town, but resulted in the deaths of 8 people and wounded 30. 60% of the town was reported to be under rebel control. Much later, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki vowed to eliminate "all terrorist groups" in a statement on national television. The police chief of the Anbar said that Iraqi forces were in control of the outskirts of Fallujah, but the city itself was held by ISIS and its allies. Sunni tribesmen refused to let Iraqi forces into the city, but held negotiations with them. Iraqi forces proceeded to shell the city from a nearby military base, before eventually withdrawing.

1] "Fighting erupts as Iraq police break up Sunni protest camp". Reuters. December 30, 2013. Retrieved 11 December 2014.
2] "Al Qaeda seizes partial control of 2 cities in western Iraq". Long War Journal. January 2, 2014. Retrieved 11 December 2014.
3] "Al Qaeda-linked forces capture town of Fallujah in Iraq". Retrieved 11 December 2014.
4] "Iraqi Army Shells Fallujah In Fight Against Al-Qaeda Rebels". Retrieved 11 December 2014.
5] "Iraq government loses control of Fallujah". Al-Jazeera. January 4, 2014. Retrieved 11 December 2014.

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Response to AmandaCMatthews (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 02:36 AM

16. Yes, and the point is that

The God-Emperor made his "JV" blunder subsequent to those dates, a fact that seems lost upon GordieG.

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