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Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:33 AM

How does NOAA determine how "warm" a day is?

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Reply How does NOAA determine how "warm" a day is? (Original post)
oflguy Mar 14 OP
DDKick Mar 14 #1
def_con5 Mar 14 #2
oflguy Mar 14 #3
RattyG Mar 14 #8
oflguy Mar 14 #12
oflguy Mar 14 #4
def_con5 Mar 14 #5
oflguy Mar 14 #6
Scary Red Mar 14 #7
oflguy Mar 14 #9
Scary Red Mar 14 #10
oflguy Mar 14 #11
Ravenquills Mar 14 #13
oflguy Mar 14 #14
Ravenquills Mar 15 #16
oflguy Mar 14 #15
oflguy Mar 15 #17
oflguy Mar 16 #18
birthmark59 Tuesday #19
oflguy Tuesday #20
birthmark59 Tuesday #21
oflguy Tuesday #22
birthmark59 Tuesday #23
oflguy Tuesday #24
birthmark59 Tuesday #25
oflguy Tuesday #26
birthmark59 Tuesday #27
oflguy Tuesday #28
oflguy Wednesday #29
oflguy Wednesday #31
Ravenquills Thursday #32
Jack Burton Wednesday #30

Response to oflguy (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:35 AM

1. Take highest temperatures and multiply to enhance

And advance AGW.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:39 AM

2. With a thermometer?

Not sure what you're driving at.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:43 AM

3. If NOAA tells you it was 57 degrees on a certain day

How did they arrive at that number?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:29 PM

8. most normal people use a thermometer ... what do you use your finger?

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Response to RattyG (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 04:44 PM

12. So what time of day do you figure they use

to determine how warm a day is?

(its not the same temperature all day long ya no)

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:44 AM

4. By the same token, if NOAA tells you a month was the "warmest in history"

How did they determine that?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:51 AM

5. Got it

I've wondered about that one myself. Doesn't seem like you could do it, unless you covered the globe with some kind of weather sensor.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:55 AM

6. 71% of the earth is water

NOAA relies on ships and buoys to report temperature there.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:15 PM

7. And satellites...

For anyone interested, here's a place to start:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:30 PM

9. So scary, how is the temperature of a day, week or month determined?

I KNOW all our global warming experts in the forum know

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Response to oflguy (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:33 PM

10. Read at the link-- it's called education and I'm not the teacher..

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:51 PM

11. Come on scary, I know you know

And it's not complicated.

You don't have to do much to convince me you're no teacher.

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 06:13 PM

13. I do not know but i just read this on the NOAA site

To calculate a global average temperature, scientists begin with temperature measurements taken at locations around the globe. Because their goal is to track changes in temperature, measurements are converted from direct temperature readings to temperature anomalies—values that represent the difference between the observed temperature and the long-term average temperature for each location and date.

so it looked to me that they do not actually determine how arm a day is they determine the changes in temperature...????

This is confusing i know how meteorologists determine how warm a day is but its seems like NOAA has some other esoteric magic number based on asummptions...???

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Response to Ravenquills (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 09:08 PM

14. It is a perfect example of what NOAAs entire focus is

which is not to record temperatures but to prove global warming.

I trust liberals to tell me if global warming exists as much as I trust puppy dogs to watch my food.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:46 AM

16. You would have better luck

with the puppy dogs. At least if they steal your food they will not try to tell you it was because your food needed to be reallocated to lesser privileged dogs

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 10:13 PM

15. No liberals?

Aren't you people the experts?

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:54 PM

17. Not a single global warming activist knows?

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:52 PM

18. All these global warming experts in the forum

And not ONE knows how the temperature of a day is calculated?

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:00 AM

19. How warm a day is where?

A specific location, the Earth, the office lounge? What is it that you are asking?

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Response to birthmark59 (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 02:46 AM

20. How does NOAA determine how warm a day is at any given location?

(hint: NOAA does not determine how warm lounges are.)

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Response to oflguy (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 06:46 AM

21. Have you bothered to check?

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Response to birthmark59 (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:29 AM

22. So do you know how the temperature for a day is calculated for a given place?

Actually I have checked recently by writing NOAA. I knew before that but wanted to make double sure before I asked the question in this forum.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:44 AM

23. Do you have a point?

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ghcn-daily/

If you have a point, please proceed to make it. I gotta get out of here shortly.

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Response to birthmark59 (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:45 AM

24. Yes I do

A very good point, but I at least want someone to take a guess

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Response to oflguy (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:49 AM

25. There's no need to guess.

I provided a link to the exact information you asked for. So, what's your point?

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Response to birthmark59 (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:55 AM

26. How do they calculate it?

The links you provided don't explain it

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Response to oflguy (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:01 AM

27. They do if you click the links contained in the link

For example: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/ghcn-daily/

But you have delayed sufficiently to ensure I can't get back to this until tonight.

Have a good 'un.

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Response to birthmark59 (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:02 AM

28. I can wait for your best guess

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Response to oflguy (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:50 AM

29. 59?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #29)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:38 AM

31. 59 where did you go?

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Response to birthmark59 (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 23, 2017, 10:12 AM

32. I read through each of these links

And what it seemed to be saying is that they determine the daily temperature by using historical and admittedly inaccurate data to correct the actual daily readings to determine the actual daily temperature...Please someone explain this to me in a simple way because i cannot make heads or tails of it......

What i read cannot be right can it?

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Response to oflguy (Original post)

Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:55 AM

30. That is easy to answer.

First the NOAA doomertists cash their government union paycheck. Then they spend a few hours perusing DU, Salon, HuffPo, NYT, WaPo, media matters and child porn during 'working' hours. Then they verify what temperature is needed to plug into their computer model to achieve the predetermined outcome necessary keep the government grant money flowing or to win 'award' money from some commie/Soros funded NGO. Then they increase the raw temperature data to the value they want to plug into their computer model.

Mission Accomplished: Now they can pat themselves on their back for "saving the planet" and then head over the faculty lounge or local CPUSA meeting to brag about how noble they are.

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