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Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:14 AM

DEA looking to justitfy its existance. As pot becomes legal they need new things to focus on

Once again Big Gov , making something people use because a small number of people died. If those were the guidelines for everything nothing would be legal.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-01/deas-sudden-herbal-heroin-ban-triggers-stiff-resistance-from-kratom-community


There is no end to the levels of control they want on the citizens of this Country.

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Reply DEA looking to justitfy its existance. As pot becomes legal they need new things to focus on (Original post)
DDKick Sep 2016 OP
quad489 Sep 2016 #1
DDKick Sep 2016 #2
rampartb Sep 2016 #3
Currentsitguy Sep 2016 #6
quad489 Sep 2016 #4
FORD Sep 2016 #5
Model10RB Sep 2016 #7

Response to DDKick (Original post)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:27 AM

1. Too many unionized govt jobs depend on that "war on drugs"..........DEA is here forever!

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Response to quad489 (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:53 AM

2. 14 People is the reason. No consideration what else they might be doing I guess

That is less than the number of people killed in Chicago on a good weekend , yet that is okay. I have tried kratom once on a bet from a girl at a bar , long story. Anyway if you can get past the taste you deserve to enjoy it lol.

It really is like so many things Big Gov does, because of a few they make the majority of people suffer or criminalize them somehow. The war on pain killers for example , now people who really are in pain can't get relief because they might become addicted. So next time you have a root canal and the dentist says take aspirin , rather than the little tiny pill that actually takes the pain away , you may understand. Cut your finger go to the ER they give you a shot to numb the area. They stitch it up and tell you now to take aspirin when the numbness wears off. They are afraid to write prescriptions for pain medicine. The CDC , DEA have made it impossible for them to write for anything stronger than aspirin.
Prohibition failed , yet over and over they use the same logic. If anything should be outlawed based on the logic above it should be alcohol. That has a negative impact and is addicting and kills more people every year than anything. But they won't touch that will they?
I compare this to the war on guns, because of a small percentage of people that misuse something everyone has to suffer , yet go get drunk off your ass everyday till you die they don't care.

While I think the drive for these types of laws are driven from the hard right religious side of politics overall many on the left like the control aspect so they go along with it. Coffee is addicting and makes you feel high technically is that next?

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Response to DDKick (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 09:19 AM

3. caffeine is as addictive as ant schedule 1 drug

if so many of us were not addicts it would soon be illegal.

they would not write a prescription for my 92 yo grandmother because she "might become addicted," what a crock.

i don't know what "herbal heroin" is, but if marijuana were legal fewer would take anything else.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:55 PM

6. Idiot people

about 20 years back a close friend's brother was dying of pancreatic cancer. The doctor's DID want to prescribe morphine for the pain. His parents objected because "It's bad enough that he's dying. You quacks want to make him an addict as well!"

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Response to DDKick (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 09:26 AM

4. Govt employs too many people & makes too much $$$ off tobacco/alcohol sales to ever outlaw them...

...even though both are responsible for more deaths in this country, with the exception of cancer & heart disease. But govt knows best.............lol.

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Response to DDKick (Original post)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 11:32 AM

5. For once, I actually agree with you

 

The DEA actually IS an example of wasteful "big government" spending. Especially the amount of time they waste on weed.

I have no idea what this "herbal fake heroin" is. (real heroin comes from a flower, for fucks sake, so it's actually "herbal") but I'm getting the impression it's worse than that salvia "fake weed" shit that was making the rounds in states where actual weed ain't legal yet.

The solution is obvious. Legalize weed out right. Tax it and regulate it, as 4 states have now done, and others will be doing after November. I'd legalize mushrooms as well, since it's really silly to ban something that grows on its own without much help. Haven't touched them myself in about 25 years and don't have any plans to do so, but I consider them relatively harmless if used responsibly.

At least decriminalize everything else. Except possibly meth. That shit truly needs to be wiped off the planet. But if all the other drugs were safely and legally available, it's not likely anybody would want to touch that shit in the first place.

How to handle the legal existence of the "hard drugs" would take some planning, obviously. The first priority should be to treat addiction as a medical problem, rather than a criminal problem.

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Response to DDKick (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 07:24 PM

7. They should close it down. It's mostly redundant to what local departments do already.

Of course their school outreach is unparalleled.

(In it's stupidity)

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