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Sat May 31, 2014, 08:47 PM

Opinion: Mass grave ‘filled to the brim with tiny bones and skulls’ shows how we cherish children

The bodies of 800 “illegitimate” children, ranging in age from nine years to two days, have been uncovered in Tuam. But do people care any more now than they did then?

“CHERISH ALL THE children equally” is a defining Irish shibboleth, enshrined in the Proclamation of Independence. It is one of our highest aspirations and, like most of the things we Irish hold dearest, it is build on a solid foundation of utter hypocrisy.

Cherish all the children? By all available evidence, we Irish don’t even like children.

In the past week, a horror story has unfolded. Eight hundred children are buried in an unmarked mass grave in Tuam, Co Galway, in a disused septic tank on the former grounds of an institution known locally as “The Home”. The Bon Secours nuns operated “The Home” between 1926 and 1961 and over the years housed thousands of unmarried mothers and their “illegitimate” children.

The tireless work of historian Catherine Corless has revealed that 796 children, the oldest nine years, the youngest two days old, are in that tank. Causes of death include “malnutrition, measles, convulsions, tuberculosis, gastroenteritis and pneumonia”. The tank is described as “filled to the brim with tiny bones and skulls”.

On Liveline during the week, a clear picture emerged. Unmarried mothers incarcerated until they signed over their babies, healthy children sold to be adopted by wealthy Americans and disabled infants, who had no sale value, abandoned in “Dying Rooms”, and their bodies dumped by the brides of Christ in a septic tank.

This was a nationwide industry founded on human suffering. In a country utterly corrupted by its own twisted version of Catholicism and run by a complicit elite, young women who “fell pregnant” were condemned. They had sinned and were left to the mercy of perverts and brutes. Their children were a tainted commodity to be sold or discarded at the whim of people considered “religious”.

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/mass-grave-galway-tuam-1494001-May2014/?utm_source=shortlink

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Reply Opinion: Mass grave ‘filled to the brim with tiny bones and skulls’ shows how we cherish children (Original post)
R2D42 May 2014 OP
UpstateDown May 2014 #1
Argentina May 2014 #2
Squeek May 2014 #3
R2D42 May 2014 #4
Squeek May 2014 #5
MercATC May 2014 #7
Squeek May 2014 #8
MercATC May 2014 #9
Squeek Jun 2014 #10
MercATC Jun 2014 #11
Lyda May 2014 #6
Zutak Jun 2014 #12

Response to R2D42 (Original post)

Sat May 31, 2014, 08:53 PM

1. The abrahamic faiths are all twisted



it's a tragedy anyone follows them at all any more
they've caused more death, destruction and tears than any other human groups
this is horror beyond belief, courtesy of your "moral" Christians, sanctioned by their Pontiffs and their Lord and Savior, apparently.


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Response to R2D42 (Original post)

Sat May 31, 2014, 09:10 PM

2. There are no words.

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Response to R2D42 (Original post)

Sat May 31, 2014, 09:11 PM

3. Well thank god

they weren't murdered before they were born...


http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1015&pid=43509



Some people only cherish embryos and fetuses.

Children...not so much.





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Response to Squeek (Reply #3)

Sat May 31, 2014, 09:18 PM

4. I saw that thread

In fact, I was on the jury for an alert on the OP. I'm totally amazed it wasn't hidden. IMHO it should have been.

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Response to R2D42 (Reply #4)

Sat May 31, 2014, 09:35 PM

5. I was on

that jury as well, and also voted to hide it.

Not so much for the opinion on abortion, but for what was said about women who choose to have an abortion...what they should suffer.

I felt that went way beyond wanting to have a rational, adult discussion.

Made me ill to read it.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #5)

Sat May 31, 2014, 09:45 PM

7. It's an opinion. This is a place to discuss opinions.

Women who have abortions are evil and nothing more than animals and should be tortured and killed.

Absolutely not what I believe, but if I DID believe that, Discussionist is a place to talk about that, not hide it.

Some people here need to chill the fuck out.

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Response to MercATC (Reply #7)

Sat May 31, 2014, 10:40 PM

8. And it was

My opinion that what was said was disgusting, hurtful, and disruptive according to the TOS

Actually, the word "repugnant" is used in the TOS


If I read something that nauseates me, don't tell me to "chill the fuck out".

Thanks

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Response to Squeek (Reply #8)

Sat May 31, 2014, 11:02 PM

9. If you can't discuss opposing views without becoming "nauseated" this might not be a good fit.

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I suppose only you and/or juries will make that determination, but discussion in the face of opposition is what we're doing here...and we do it based on issues, not ideologies.

My philosophy here is get with the spirit or go elsewhere, but don't whine.

Your philosophy may differ.

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Response to MercATC (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:25 PM

10. I'm sorry but

you are not getting it.

It's not the viewpoint of some that abortion is murder that made me ill.

It was the attitude of the person who wished horrible things on women who had had one, or several. Absolutely repulsive.


And since I was on the jury, I had to read that post.

Now I don't know what's going to be said until I actually READ it, and by that time, it's too late.

Am I going to see and hear things in life that make me sick? Yes.

I'm not going to go close myself off in a cave over it.

But when I see something I think violates the TOS of a discussion group, I'm going to vote to hide it.


I'm not going to play this game with you. I'm not going to sit here and allow you to try to shame me for being, in your opinion, too sensitive. As if your tolerance for repulsive language is the only valid standard.

Vote the way you see fit and leave others to vote the way they see fit without trying to embarrass them.





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Response to Squeek (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:44 PM

11. Fair enough.

I think that discussion boards require juries with thicker skins, but it really does all even out.

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Response to R2D42 (Original post)

Sat May 31, 2014, 09:45 PM

6. made me think

of Philomena…

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Response to R2D42 (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 02:07 PM

12. So what? What matters is how they died, not the disposition of corpses.

The primitive hang-up about corpses (which are not people) is weird.

If the kids were beaten to death then it wouldn't matter if they were in velvet-lined tombs.

And if they died naturally and were put in the orphanage equivalent of potters field... so what??

That's less a problem than a living kid missing one meal.

People without money were often buried crudely and it isn't necessarily a bad thing if whatever resources would go to burying them could have been better used on the living.

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