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Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:28 AM

Louisiana school bans lesbian girl from wearing tux to prom, sparking outrage



MONROE, La. — An openly gay student and top academic scholar at a Louisiana high school won't attend the prom this year because the school won't allow her to wear a tuxedo.

The school says it's simply a dress code, but Carroll High School senior Claudetteia Love said the prohibition is more about her sexual orientation than her fashion choices.

Friday, she sat quietly crying in her living room as she talked about missing one of the signature events of her senior year.

The prom is April 24.
"I told my mom, 'They're using me. They put me in all these honors and advanced placement classes so I can take all of these tests and get good grades and better the school, but when it's time for me to celebrate the fact that I've accomplished what I need to accomplish and I'm about to graduate, they don't want to let me do it, the way I want to,' " she said.

More: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/04/gay-honor-student-told-wear-tux-prom/25317113/

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Reply Louisiana school bans lesbian girl from wearing tux to prom, sparking outrage (Original post)
Attila Gorilla Apr 2015 OP
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #1
Smoke Apr 2015 #27
John Q Citizen Apr 2015 #38
Slow Slicing Apr 2015 #2
Banshee 3 Actual Apr 2015 #6
Slow Slicing Apr 2015 #10
Banshee 3 Actual Apr 2015 #20
Slow Slicing Apr 2015 #23
studentdrake May 2015 #108
Slow Slicing May 2015 #110
His Daughter Apr 2015 #3
LaughingGull Apr 2015 #4
USNRET1988 Apr 2015 #5
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #7
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #12
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #15
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #35
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #57
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #59
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #63
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #64
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #65
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #66
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #70
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #76
Hades Apr 2015 #75
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #77
studentdrake May 2015 #109
USNRET1988 Apr 2015 #13
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #16
USNRET1988 Apr 2015 #19
762Justice Apr 2015 #51
Bronxbomber Apr 2015 #8
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #9
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #11
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #14
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #17
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #31
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #36
USNRET1988 Apr 2015 #53
Attila Gorilla Apr 2015 #55
smokingman Apr 2015 #58
TexMex Apr 2015 #73
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #78
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #80
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #81
Attila Gorilla Apr 2015 #83
FeartheRedRaider May 2015 #107
FeartheRedRaider May 2015 #106
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #18
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #22
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #79
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #21
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #24
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #25
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #26
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #29
joefriday6 Apr 2015 #37
Phlegm Monger Apr 2015 #52
cilantro May 2015 #105
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #28
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #30
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #32
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #34
.30M1 Apr 2015 #39
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #41
.30M1 Apr 2015 #42
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #44
.30M1 Apr 2015 #46
Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #49
.30M1 Apr 2015 #50
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #33
.30M1 Apr 2015 #40
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #43
.30M1 Apr 2015 #45
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #47
.30M1 Apr 2015 #48
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steelysunshine Apr 2015 #54
MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #56
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #60
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Shredded Hedly Apr 2015 #100
tonedevil Apr 2015 #101
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MoshMasterD Apr 2015 #103
Argentina Apr 2015 #61
MrSlayer666 Apr 2015 #62
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Attila Gorilla Apr 2015 #69
John Q Citizen Apr 2015 #71
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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:56 AM

1. "You can't have everything you want" knows no orientation.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:00 PM

27. But if you try sometime you just might find you get what you need NT

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 02:20 PM

38. In authoritarian countries they force people to wear

uniforms approved by the state.

Just like the poor girl being oppressed with the tyranny of the state.

Let her dress as she chooses since their style isn't her style and doesn't need to be.

Except in dictatorships.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:58 AM

2. Gender-based dress codes are silly.

This way of thinking will end in the US. Eventually, we will give up the basic idea of static gender and sexual orientation.

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Response to Slow Slicing (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:15 AM

6. And learn to copulate like worms by Asexual reproduction

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:33 AM

10. Worms aren't asexual.

They're hermaphrodites and impregnate each other.

People aren't going to evolve like that anytime soon.

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Response to Slow Slicing (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:11 PM

20. Lighten up Francis, it was a reference to James Earl Jones in Gardens of Stone

"Goody" Nelson: You ever take biology in school, soldier?

Jackie Willow: Yes, Sergeant-Major.

"Goody" Nelson: How do worms copulate?

Jackie Willow: They don't, Sergeant-Major; they use asexual reproduction.

"Goody" Nelson: Mmmm-hmmmm! Interesting concept! Tell me, Willow - any idea who first came up with that notion: reproducing without sex?

Jackie Willow: Your wife, Sergeant-Major?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:15 PM

23. That is a funny set up, but it's wrong.

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Response to Slow Slicing (Reply #2)

Fri May 22, 2015, 07:17 AM

108. "2. Gender-based dress codes are silly."

agree, if i had my way we would all be nudists.

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Response to studentdrake (Reply #108)

Fri May 22, 2015, 12:21 PM

110. More people would probably watch their weight if we were all nudists.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:07 AM

3. Acording to what I have read the principal does not have the support of the head of the school board

The principal may have to decide if his job is worth the fight

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:07 AM

4. I would rather see this young lady in a tux...

...than some young ladies in the dresses I've seen worn to prom these days.

Why should the school or anyone else are what she wears?!?!

All the girls should not only show up wearing tuxes, they should show up wearing tuxes in those ugly colors we wore in the 70s...baby blue, burgandy, sienna. With big ruffles and huge lapels! LOL!

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Response to USNRET1988 (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:25 AM

7. No harm

But yet, it's the school's prom, their rules. The "no tux for girls" rule was made in a general stasis. Nothing anti gay about it. This is just more politicing by way of selfish conspiracy theories.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:41 AM

12. Actually it the class's prom. The school imposes the rules on the class/participants.

It is the senior prom.... not the school prom....

She is not only a part of that class, but an acknowledged leader scholastically and socially. You can bet that the other students in her class, school, know exactly who and what she is. And yet this has not bothered them, or stopped, slowed, or diminished her accomplishments.

This young woman has the courage to be open and honest about her sexuality and that is a huge thing at that age and in her culture. I look at this young lady with respect of who she is and what she has accomplished.

What is it that she wants to do that is disrespectful or harmful to anyone? Even her choice of attire is totally appropriate for the event and is exactly on par with what the boys will be wearing.

Why is she a threat to people's since of morality and why does being threatened override her right to be who she is? You can not answer this question without involving god or the bible.......

Judge least not you be judged..... (pretty close) I remember that someplace along the way.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:54 AM

15. The school is footing the bill. So they do have a major say.

And I do agree with her sentment. But you must think logically. Politicing this makes it worse. Moreso, no one is bombarding her over who her date is, she's a successful student. But that one rule, she gets bent outta shape. With that selfish attitude, makes you wonder if she gets her dream job, only to find out there is a dress code. Then what?

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:39 PM

35. I know of no prom funded by the school, you need to check your facts.

If this BS is what you base your Argument on, that argument just crashed and burned...

Next up will be the "buts and ifs", variable strawman and circular arguments closely followed by name calling.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #35)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 07:55 PM

57. I did. Was a member of my prom organizing committee

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #57)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 08:05 PM

59. Ok I believe you

So the state is being totally anti gay and discriminating against this young lady.

Now that we are clear on that matter we can continue this discussion. She is gay, does not wear dresses but you want to mandate that she wear a gown, do nails and hair, walk around in high heels and look just like your idea of what girls are supposed to look like...

Fancy that you want to take a non fem person and make dress and be all girly.......

All because you believe that is how she is supposed to look....

No thanks, I don't do the bully thing and that is exactly what this is. You are trying to make her into something she is not just because you think she should be that way....

Explain this without playing the God card.... If it is a matter of religion, then admit it and we can continue.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #59)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:12 PM

63. Not me, them

I don't care what orientation she is. Rules are there. And rules can be changed. It's not up to me and you.

PS: Don't shoot the messenger.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #63)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:53 PM

64. but there used to be rulus about owning slaves too

Rules are rules.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #64)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:05 PM

65. The slave card will never work.

You're smarter than that.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 12:17 AM

66. It works exactly those rules were thought to be good rules until they weren't

If we just blindly do what great great grandpa did we would never fly fast or drive fast.....
Doing something just because some idiot religious zealot sitting in a corner made up a rule is stupid.....

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #66)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:22 PM

70. Then if you are convinced in this issue and slavery comparison....

Then unfortunately, you know what happened about how slavery here ended.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #70)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 11:23 PM

76. because the rules of owning slaves and this one are both

discriminatory and totally unjust to minorities.

The courts will find this very quickly and then the idiots who made these rules are going to see the school districts money going someplace else except for the kids educations..

It is on them, their fault, their call but their ignorance will cost many kids.......

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #64)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 10:13 PM

75. She should wear the tux.

But comparing not allowing girls to wear a tux to prom to keeping humans as slaves or mass slaughtering a culture over land is beyond ridiculous.

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Response to Hades (Reply #75)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 11:25 PM

77. maybe but it was a response to the line of thought that there is a rule so it must be followed.

That is just stupid. When there are unjust rules they need to be challenged and changed.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #12)

Fri May 22, 2015, 07:32 AM

109. judge not, least thee be judged

i think is the king James interpretation. i take it to mean that the christen god does not want man to judge or condemn other human's behavior. so those who cures and condemn others will face similar judgment when they finally come face to face with their god.

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Response to USNRET1988 (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:58 AM

16. She is not banned from the prom

She, just like the rest of the females gay or not, can't wear tuxes at the prom.

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Response to USNRET1988 (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:44 PM

51. That is how I see it.

She is a good kid, and a good student. If she wants to wear a tux, or a boy wants to wear a dress, I honestly don't care.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:26 AM

8. Oh please! There was one dude who showed up to our prom wearing a spray painted tux.

All the teachers just laughed. We gotta get over this stuff and stop judging people by who they love and who loves them.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:26 AM

9. I am in support of this young lady, 100% and without qualification.

This is her choice and is about who she is. Her choice is to go dressed in a respected and appropriate manner in a tux. Her choice respects the event and should not even be questioned...

And by the way, congrats to this fantastic young lady on her accomplishments.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:36 AM

11. I congratulate the girl on her achievements and also the school for its decision. Without

rules, there eventually is chaos. If the current rule says that women must wear dresses, then that is the rule. If the board gives an exception, I would not blame the rest of the potential prom attendees from staying home or holding their own prom.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:47 AM

14. We used to have rules about blacks and Native Americans too.

And if there was a young lady who chose to show up with one of the pants style burkas on they would not comment or touch the dress subject with a ten foot poll. There would be no comment at all....

The major factor here is that she wants to comply and with all due respect for the event dress formally, but as who she is, and not who they want her to be.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:58 AM

17. What?

And if there was a young lady who chose to show up with one of the pants style burkas on they would not comment or touch the dress subject with a ten foot poll. There would be no comment at all....

Had she come as you suggested, she would not have been let in the door--no matter who she was. This is Louisiana not San Francisco.

The major factor here is that she wants to comply and with all due respect for the event dress formally, but as who she is, and not who they want her to be.

Who she is, as a Lesbian, is not something appreciated in many parts of the South. Again, it is the rules rather than who they want her to be.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:18 PM

31. as many parts of the south did not appreciate the slsves being free either

What does your approval have to do with this verry accomplished young ladies right to be herself?

This is sounding like a god immage thing, That being you thinking that you are the god who decides other peoples rights Just because and only because you think so. How arrogant.

Im sorry to burst the bubble of your ignorance but personel and civil rights are not determined that way.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 02:03 PM

36. It is your arrogance that leads you to believe there is ANYTHING

Godly about what this woman is doing to herself or her school. She has allowed the devil to capture her soul via AP classes.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 06:23 PM

55. "She has allowed the devil to capture her soul via AP classes."

LMAO

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #55)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 07:55 PM

58. It can't be real. It just can't

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #55)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 09:36 PM

73. They gotta smack her down quick:

 

Lesbian, Black & Smart!

She's a triple threat and an affront to their antebellum intolerance.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #36)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 12:57 AM

78. Not arrogance at all but a heritage that allows for people like her to be different and respected.

And I do not believe in your god so rules like this that are based on your religion and violate her rights are without merit with me. Religious zealots are dangerous people no matter what their flavor.....

And just think, the imperialists who invaded this land called us backwards and uncivilized.

The total and complete arrogance in this thread is your attitude that everyone has to believe in your god to even possibly be right. You are the arrogant one.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #78)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:44 AM

80. The imperialists who invaded this land are nothing compared to the ones invading our land

now, from the fascist oligarchs to the chemists destroying our food, to the entertainers and deviants destroying our morals, and to the ancient atheists and agnostics who never amounted to a hill of beans anyway, we are Rome in the post Parthian years, out of land, out of water, out of morals; full of illegals, full of drugs--legal and illegal--full of homeless, full of devils in high places....full of shit. Yeah, odenuff35--you fit in well.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #80)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 11:04 AM

81. They typical view of the white christian invader.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #80)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 11:17 AM

83. Really.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #80)

Fri May 8, 2015, 10:12 PM

107. God you had me going there for a bit! Your satire of a moron christian is spot on! n/t

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #36)

Fri May 8, 2015, 10:10 PM

106. Oh, your one of THOSE people...

...LOLOLOL

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:07 PM

18. An great idea, Oldenuff :)

You can always find the best of both worlds like a tux styled dress. But there maybe a time constraint problem for it. The best protests is give them what they want, just not how they want it.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:13 PM

22. oldenuff

You are rocking this thread today

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:10 AM

79. And a good time was had by all.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:11 PM

21. "If the current rule says that women must wear dresses, then that is the rule."

Bless your cotton socks Joe but some rules are meant go be broken. And end times will not erupt because she wears an appropriate tuxedo.

" If the board gives an exception, I would not blame the rest of the potential prom attendees from staying home or holding their own prom."

That's a very rigid POV Joe and the whole separate, protest-prom idea smacks of exclusion (insert reason here).

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:27 PM

24. No, end times are not going to erupt because this girl wears a tuxedo to the prom,

even without an exception But if the Left continues insistence on breaking long-established rules, end-times will definitely erupt. See you view all this stuff in one plane of thought, that all this discrimination business is not good and is just like old times when blacks were not allowed to sit in the font of the bus. I was in Meridian, MI during those times. This is not the same thing, however. This is not a person of one color not be allowed to do something. This is a person who was born a certain way wanting an instant acceptance of her transformation. This is what real Christians are objecting to, including whoever made this ruling on the prom dress. But in the bigger picture, this transformation to a new society is coming about at a time the US is unraveling as a country and losing its status in the world. If the old people considered normal stop fighting against what they view as abnormal, who will be left to fight for anything? The Left? Socialists? They have now run out of other people's money and have no power anymore. The oligarchs will swat them like flies in the post TPP age. I won't see it. Too old. You will. And you will understand immediately.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 12:54 PM

25. how interesting you should post this:

"This is a person who was born a certain way wanting an instant acceptance of her transformation. This is what real Christians are objecting to"

How interesting that you should post that sentiment today, the day that Christians celebrate the transformation of Christ through resurrection.

I am sad for you Joe. Srsly. You have unnecessary despair in your life.



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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #25)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:00 PM

26. This is your idea of analogy? A woman transforming herself to a man compared with the

resurrection of Jesus Christ? Stick to Cat in the Hat, Shredded Hedly...That analogy was disgusting beyond belief.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:11 PM

29. i just quoted your own words back to you joe

What is disgusting "beyond belief" about the analogy?



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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #29)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 02:09 PM

37. If you don't know, it would not be worthwhile to elaborate on it. Give you a tip, though:

Don't go out in thunderstorms.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:01 PM

52. Let a girl wear a tux and the next thing you know,

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #24)

Fri May 8, 2015, 08:12 AM

105. If this rule was so important, it would be applied to boys as well.

The fact that it is only applied to girls should give you an indication of just how frivolous the rule actually is.

This is not serious rule.

A serious rule would be applied more uniformly and consistently.



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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:11 PM

28. Then they do it at their own expense

Proms ain't cheap.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:16 PM

30. nope proms arent cheap

It would be ridiculous to have two separate proms for something as silly as this. I dont see it happening anyway. Kids are much more open to "others" unless they have been taught to hate. I dont think its the other attendees that are having a problem with her wearing a tux.

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #30)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:22 PM

32. Agreed

Unfortunately I still stand by the conclusion is that since the school is footing the bill, they run it the way they see fit. Nothing anti gay about it.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #32)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:30 PM

34. "Nothing anti gay about it."

Maybe...maybe not.

I agree there should be some dress code but her wearing an appropriate tux does not go outside the parameters. The school might fund some part of the prom but that doesn't mean some misguided administrator is the final word on prom attire.

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:26 PM

39. There is a dress code.

Grades PK-12

The School Board will not allow any student to wear clothing that distracts from or disrupts the school's learning environment. The student's cleanliness and grooming will also be considered. The principal will have the final say in what is or is not proper dress. The students as well as the parents are expected to use good judgment regarding dress and appearance.

Shorts, skirts, and split-skirts shall be allowed so long as they measure no shorter than three (3) inches above the knee when the student is standing.
Capri pants are acceptable as long as they are not clinging to the body.
Biking shorts, boxer shorts worn as outer wear, sweat suits, warm-ups, jogging suits, pants with unrepaired holes, skin-tight pants and pants worn below the waist shall not be allowed.
Leggings worn under dresses, skirts, or shorts shall be allowed.
All pants with belt loops must be worn with a belt or other acceptable accessory for holding up pants (such as suspenders).
Baggy or drooping pants that fall off the hips are not allowed.
Tank tops worn layered with other garments shall be allowed.
Shoulders, underarm areas, and midriffs must be covered at all times, including when arms are raised. Sleeveless shirts shall not be allowed.
All shirts must be tucked in.
All shoes having strings or buckles must have the strings tied and the buckles buckled at all times
Backless sandals, flip flops, and bedroom slippers shall not be allowed. All shoes must have backs.
Hair shall be neat, well-groomed, and clean all times and shall not obstruct the face.
Shaved parts in the hair shall be limited to two (2) and each part shall not exceed three (3) inches in length.
Numbers, designs, symbols, words, and phrases cut in the hair which are offensive or disrupt the educational process shall not be allowed.
Hair styles, and hair dyed outlandish colors which cause a disruption to the educational process shall not be allowed.
Hair rollers, nets, and plastic caps shall not be allowed.
Garments advertising liquor and tobacco products, offensive messages, or offensive language shall not be allowed.
Tattoos which display offensive messages or other offensive language must be hidden from view at all times.
Undergarments must be hidden from view at all times.
Caps, hats, sunglasses, or bandanas may not be worn inside school buildings.
Gang related clothing is prohibited.
Visible piercings are only allowed in ears.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:38 PM

41. thats nice

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #41)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:39 PM

42. Amazing what a little searching will turn up.

Education is key.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #42)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:43 PM

44. whatever you say dude

I didnt see anything about who wears what though so it looks its open to interpretation.

Have yourself a mighty fine day.

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #44)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:20 PM

46. Oh I am.

Open to interpretation in this case means the principal of the school just as it states in the dress code. Whatever they say.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #46)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:38 PM

49. righte-o

And of course principals dont make those decisions in a vacuum. This scenario has already been played out in other states already. As well, you can be sure that some transgender girl somewhere in the us is going to be in the media next week for something similar. Gird your loins.

Toodles

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #49)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:41 PM

50. I'm sure their will be poutrage.

I'll have the popcorn ready.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:26 PM

33. they are doing it at their own expense

Proms are funded with donations raised by the students around here and always have been. I strongly believe it to be exactly the same there too.

Not school money, private money!!!!!!!!!

So you were saying?????

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #33)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:33 PM

40. School pays for the venue if held off school grounds.

Schools pay for the DJ and donation/sponsorship/fund raising usually only covers part of the cost so it is both school money and private money involved. That's how it worked in Louisiana when I was in high school.


So you were saying?

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #40)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:40 PM

43. not around here, the underclassmen raise the money and pay for all of that themselves.

Then the underclassmen to them do the same for them...

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #43)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:18 PM

45. Well "not around here" means nothing to a school in Monroe, LA.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #45)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:20 PM

47. Agreed so that leave them able to make up anything they want and state that is how it is.

nope, not buying that.......

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #47)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:22 PM

48. Doesn't matter one bit in this case.

The principal has final say no matter who is paying for what anyways.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #48)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 02:05 AM

67. maybe this time

But after a trip through the court system he won't be.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 06:14 PM

54. She could wear this

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If it's a problem getting it on time. She could go ahead rent a tux and find a black skirt to wear instead of the pants.

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Response to steelysunshine (Reply #54)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 07:50 PM

56. Winner!!!!!

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #56)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 08:13 PM

60. check out post 59 we are just getting started

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #56)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 11:30 AM

84. Then check out post 68, more than one person with an I'm God attitude

got slapped down by a local elected politician with unbiased intelligence.

We need that big spanking icon about now. I bet that little hitler, moron, high school demigod dictator, is feeling like should not have played chicken with reality. Reality bulldozed his butt. Reality and this young lady are the winner by a mile.....

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #84)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 12:32 PM

85. First slavery, now Godwin's law

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #85)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:09 PM

86. “Girls wear dresses and boys wear tuxes, and that’s the way it is.” from the principal...

THESE ARE THE WORDS OF A HOMOPHOBE SEXIST BIGOT!!!!!!!!!!!

That is very obvious for all to see.

I would take this one step on out toward the rational and logical conclusion. Anyone who supports this attitude and/or any rule implemented because of this attitude and enforces this sexist, anti gay, line of thought are placing themselves in the same category as the principle is. Again for the whole world to see.
The category that the principle has secured for himself is "Homophobe, sexist, bigot". I would bet good money that this is driven by his religion.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #86)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:30 PM

87. It's a formal.

It's all a general consensus, not just for the lgbt commune. It's all about someone politicing to get her way. Just like what you're doing right now.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #87)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:41 PM

88. General consensus...

or not looks like the Ms. Love has won. The Principal may have be in charge of the school, but he answers to the school board and they made him change his little mind.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #88)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:55 PM

90. That's fine. Not mad or bent out of shape about it.

Still think it should've been handled a lil differently than politicing. But I am glad it's over.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #87)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:34 PM

91. BS now your really reaching

It is a consensus, she can't be who she is because the majority of us say so..... That is just what you said. That is really crazy.

It is not about someone playing politics to get their way, crazy again, It is someone insisting on exercising their minority civil rights to be who they are no matter what the majority, consensus, thinks. That is the basis for most of the civil rights laws in our country.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #91)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:53 PM

92. Then it belongs in the court room and not the media, nor the buerocracy of the board.

But worry not, it has been settled. So all is well in the world.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #92)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:20 PM

93. I don't agree with you. I believe subjects like this are the reason why we are here.

and thanks for the discussion.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #93)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:56 PM

94. Agree to disagree.

Not a problem😊

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #92)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:34 PM

95. Why wouldn't...

this be a matter for the School Board? It could have gone to court, where the school would likely have lost, but the board president made a rational decision and legalities were avoided. I don't see why this isn't a proper outcome achieved in the proper venue.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #95)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:24 PM

96. Politicing makes movements look bad.

Having resort to government reliance brings about more buerocratic garbage, no matter how good the intent is. This was a legal matter and should've been handled in the court system.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #96)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:49 PM

97. A High School Senior...

who wants to go to her prom in a Tuxedo is a movement? Of course public schools resort to government reliance, they are by definition government reliant. The only way this would go to the court system is if there was a failure to reach an amicable agreement. Apparently there was a way to reach an amicable agreement and it involved the School Board. The Principal may be the head of the school, but they work in a larger organization that can overrule their decisions.
I am curious, are you saying the girl should have sued the school for relief? If the case took too long and the prom passed without her being able to go in her Tux, but then the case was found in her favor do you think she should receive monetary compensation?

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #97)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 03:09 PM

98. All schools usually run differently

The no tux for girls rule was there in general, meaning everyone, it knew no orientation. I don't care if she looks for monetary or not, this was a legal matter and not a buerocratic matter.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #98)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 04:43 PM

99. What legal remedy...

do you see for this issue? Dress codes are bureaucracy they are made and enforced by bureaucrats. Police and judges only get involved if things go wrong.

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Response to MoshMasterD (Reply #98)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 04:53 PM

100. this is not a legal matter

And to suggest that it is is ridiculous. This minor problem has been rectified in-house, albeit a little higher up the food chain from the misguided principal. I'm glad to hear that she has received approval and support for her wishes from the school board.

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #100)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:00 PM

101. I don't see a role...

for the legal system in this incident either. That's why I would like to know what MoshMasterD thinks the appropriate legal remedy might be.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #101)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:09 PM

102. eh imo (s)he's just pissed off

Because the girl is going to be allowed to wear a tux.


Someone got around the "rules"! We cant have that or else calamity ensues! Oh noes!!!111!!!

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Response to Shredded Hedly (Reply #102)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:46 PM

103. Wrong on all counts, daddy

The matter is settled, time to move on.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 08:26 PM

61. That's sad. They should let her wear a tux. I think they're discriminating against her because of

her sexual orientation by not letting her wear a tux.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 09:06 PM

62. Here's what to do, wear it anyway.

Chances are. no one will bat an eye. I very much doubt they'll deny her entry or cause a commotion over it.

Just do it and tell the haters to go piss up a rope.

Simple.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:14 PM

68. School board president smacks down principal for telling lesbian student she can’t wear tux to prom

There may some people with common sense in Lousisana http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/school-board-president-smacks-down-principal-for-telling-lesbian-student-she-cant-wear-tux-to-prom/

A school board president in Louisiana has smacked down an arbitrary ruling made by a high school principal who warned an openly gay student that she would not be allowed to wear a tux to her prom, telling her, “Girls wear dresses and boys wear tuxes, and that’s the way it is.”

According to the News Star, Carroll High School senior Claudetteia Love was going to boycott her prom after being informed that she wouldn’t be allowed to attend if she wore a tux.....

Alerted to the controversy, Monroe City School Board President Rodney McFarland said he has called a meeting with School Superintendent Brent Vidrine to take up Love’s case.

“As school board president, I don’t agree with Carroll banning her from her prom just because of what she wants to wear — that’s discrimination,” he said. “As far as I know there is no Monroe City School Board policy saying what someone has to wear to attend the prom. You can’t just go making up policies.”
School board politics can be fun to watch

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #68)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:18 PM

69. This should be an OP.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #68)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:27 PM

71. "You just can't go making up policies."

This tyranny won't stand.

Anyone who supports the principle making up policy is flat out wrong.


That's not the rule of law or due process; It's a little dictatorship.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #68)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:52 PM

89. Every girl should wear a tux, in support of their classmate.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #89)

Fri May 8, 2015, 08:06 AM

104. ^^^THIS^^^ (nt)

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 09:14 PM

72. um, she's being discriminated against on the ground of sex

 

not sexual orientation.

Or do we imagine that the principal would be all for a straight female student wearing a tux to the prom?

Her choice might have something to do with her sexual orientation, or not. The reason her choice is banned is because she is a girl, not because she is a lesbian.


We didn't have proms in my day; that bullshit, like fraternities and sororities at university, hadn't infected Canada yet.

But I wore trousers to my grade 12 graduation -- those were the days when there was still a grade 13, which I mercifully skipped and ran off to university on early admission scholarship. You could graduate from basic high school after grade 12 and go on to grade 13 and then university if you wanted, or not. So anyhow, I went back to town for my grade 12 graduation ceremony the following fall just to check things out and pick up my French prize and see all my classmates who were still hanging around in high school. Grey flannel trousers, black patent high heels, a plain long-sleeved belted tunic, some jewelry and some loooong hair. And my dad got the home movie of the principal's jaw dropping as I crossed the stage, at the audacity of showing up at his school in pants. But that was looong ago.


I swear, if a public school principal pulled a stunt like the one in this story where I'm at today ... well, no one would. Principals here aren't expected to be assholes, and people don't become principals if they are.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 09:40 PM

74. Let her wear the tux.

It's her night, not the school's.

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 11:11 AM

82. More silly shit.



Seems like everyone wants their 15 minutes nowadays. Look at me look at me. I'm so oppressed.

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