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Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:42 AM

NRA Bans Operational Firearms at Nashville NRA Convention

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2015/04/05/nra-nashville-things-to-know/25291131/

<<A multilevel security plan went into works not long after Nashville was chosen as the convention destination. All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed, and any guns purchased during the NRA convention will have to be picked up at a Federal Firearms License dealer, near where the purchaser lives, and will require a legal identification.

Because, you know, guns are dangerous.

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John Q Citizen Apr 2015 #55
oldenuff35 Apr 2015 #140
Miss Quay Apr 2015 #166
.30M1 Apr 2015 #173
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Liberty Apr 2015 #33
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Smoke Apr 2015 #119
snooper1 Apr 2015 #122
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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:55 AM

1. Miss any guns bought at a gun show, and this qualifies as a gun show, have to go

through a dealer with background checks an all.... Nothing new about that. Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble but that is already the law. Now to the next point. The convention floor is not the same as the gun show where they will be selling the guns. Sorry pop goes another one. And for the final coup, I can break my pistols down, reinstall the firing pin, and reassemble my handguns in way under a minute..... no problem at all.

Your parade just got all wet.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:02 AM

2. Not really a parade and not the point, but whatever floats your goat.

Speaking of parades and floats. Here is one for you.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 03:58 AM

13. I don't think Goats float

Just sayin'

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Response to Smoke (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:36 AM

26. This one is on his way to Nashville.

I wonder if he's packing heat.

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Response to Smoke (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:02 PM

55. They do. I have goats. Is that an example of

stuff you know nothing about but that you have an uninformed opinion on that you want to share with everyone?

By the way, goats don't like to go swimming, but they do swim well.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:35 PM

140. Rational sane people require, absolutely require, facts, and provable truth in a discussion

Not the BS propaganda and outright bold faced lies that you tell about guns, gun events, and gun people....

There your place has been found and properly assigned. We will leave it to the other posters to decide for themselves if you are just willfully ignorant, or a bold faced liar.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #140)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 01:55 AM

166. Cool. My "place has been found."

It sounds like you put me on a spreadsheet or list or something. I can't wait to tell my mom.

It also sounds like free rent inside your head.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #166)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:40 AM

173. Just like the NRA and inanimate objects have free rent in yours.

They must like the detached two-car garage too.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #173)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:12 AM

174. Ask her to post pictures of all the anti gun protesters there this year

Here ......let me do that for her

































It's the Ghost Protesters this year I guess Bloomturd forgot to rent a bus to bring them in, and Watts only lies, ah....I mean flies 1st class

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #174)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:26 AM

175. Are all those ghost posters there to protest ghost guns?

You have to admire their dedication, though. I know I wouldn't have stood out in such a blinding blizzard!

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:15 AM

4. You ever notice grabbers try to play this up every year

Without bothering to check all the facts.

They read somewhere on a liberal blog that "the NRA Convention prohibits guns " without knowing what the rules and law's are where the convention is being held.

I bet she read the string in Bansasnot and took it as gospel

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:08 AM

19. naw man, it's people yelling "yee haw", shooting into the ceiling and trading guns with no paperwork

while Alan Jackson plays in the background..

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Response to Jaime Lannister (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:10 AM

33. Sounds like a good time.

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Response to Jaime Lannister (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:46 PM

85. Brung a tear t'my eye.. happy times. One day on my way to work at a USPS P&DC I stopped by a gun...

... show to buy some ammo. I'd slid my postal ID into my shirt and was paying for the ammo when the ID slid out into view. The lady writing up the sale noticed and said, "You're not gonna use this at work, are you?"...

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Response to Gamle-ged (Reply #85)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:21 PM

106. LOL.. classic...

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:25 AM

34. "the rules and law's are where the convention is being held."

The NRA shows good judgement in ALWAYS holding their meeting in a jurisdicition with strong gun laws that won't allow guns in the venue.

Good judgement and hypocrisy.

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Response to Muggles (Reply #34)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:27 AM

87. That is a crock

If you have a valid CCW at that location you are good to go..... and they are talking about the convention floor not the gun show attached to it.

Good try but no cigar, some kid stole them.....

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:30 PM

109. False, a private individual "collector" can sell to you with no checks at all

All gun owners in a national database-

All guns in national database-

So we can keep track of you

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #109)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:38 PM

116. False, a private individual "collector" can sell to you with no checks at all

OK how does that make it legal for a felon to be in possession of a firearm?

Perhaps a better question would be if it's that big a deal for a felon to possess a firearm why does Biden say it's not worth prosecuting?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/biden-to-nra-we-dont-have-the-time-to-prosecute-people-who-lie-on-background-checks/

During the National Rifle Association’s meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and the White House gun violence task force, the vice president said the Obama administration does not have the time to fully enforce existing gun laws.

Jim Baker, the NRA representative present at the meeting, recalled the vice president’s words during an interview with The Daily Caller: “And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

All gun owners in a national database-

Ummm, No

All guns in national database-

0 fer 2 there Sparky

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Response to Smoke (Reply #116)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:42 PM

118. gun checks for all, everyone in a database since they can potentially be dangerous

Just like we have databases for other individuals

You can keep your guns- We just keep track of them for you


- and thanks for admitting a felon can walk up and by a gun NO PROBLEM NO CHECKS! the spin you try is fail

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #118)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:46 PM

119. and thanks for admitting a felon can walk up and by a gun NO PROBLEM NO CHECKS!

You are aware that less than 1% of crime guns were purchased at gunshows right?

You can keep your guns- We just keep track of them for you

Let us know how that works out for you.

ETA Link


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html

Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales. A straw purchase occurs when someone who may not legally acquire a firearm, or who wants to do so anonymously, has a companion buy it on their behalf.

So how will UBCs fix that?

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Response to Smoke (Reply #119)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:03 PM

122. Titles, just like when you sell your car- VIN with DMV

DMV already has a lot of the infrastructure in place-

Then we can charge registration fees on your weapons and increase tax revenue to buy go-pros for every cop in the country!

27,000,000,000 guns

* $2.50 license fee per year-

Tax Revenue Generated

$67,500,000,000

I just generated 67.5 Billion dollars a year in revenue- Awesome!

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #122)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:09 PM

123. I'm well aware that the end goal of UBCs is universal registration but it ain't gonna happen

if nothing else gun owners simply won't comply

worst case you'll find out what happens when you try to confiscate upwards of 27,000,000,000 guns from 100 plus million gun owners.

How bad do you want it?

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Response to Smoke (Reply #123)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:13 PM

124. Oh it'll happen :) Just like a fishing license

Gun owners don't comply you can't get the registration on your car renewed--


Easy Peasy!

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #124)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:44 PM

130. I'm done with your little game NT

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Response to Smoke (Reply #130)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:52 PM

133. admit it, you are starting to like the idea, and there are great benefits!

Like,

Say you want to find out if anyone has a 47' chevy truck in your state you want to buy- In the database today!

In the future-
You could search for rare guns!
(for a fee LOL)

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #133)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:14 PM

135. Or, you're a thief looking for targets

No thanks.

BTW, vehicle registration information is not available to the general public. Craxy ex stalkers were able to abuse it to track down their targets.

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Response to Smoke (Reply #123)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:02 AM

149. I saw that ridiculous number somewhere else today

 

Must have been another of your posts.

confiscate upwards of 27,000,000,000 guns from 100 plus million gun owners.
Apart from the fact that a long way from all gun owners are assholes who do not comply with laws ... you appear to be asserting that there are 27 billion guns in the US.

I am not quite flat on the floor from laughing yet, so you can still save me.

Tell me there's a misplaced decimal or something there.

Gott im Himmel, if a non-gunfancier had said something like that, the site would have collapsed from the stampede of gunfanciers shrieking and pointing.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #149)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:52 AM

153. you appear to be asserting that there are 27 BILLION guns in the US.

My mistake, I put too many zeros on the number I meant 270 plus MILLION guns and that number is well established. It is estimated that there are 9 guns for every ten people in this country.

Apart from the fact that a long way from all gun owners are assholes who do not comply with laws

Official estimates place the number of gun owners in America at around 100 million, most people think that number is very low. If even 5% of them don’t comply you’ve got a problem

Gott im Himmel, if a non-gunfancier had said something like that

A non-gunfancier did say something like that look at the post above mine

ETA Post 122 27,000,000,000 guns direct quote

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Response to Smoke (Reply #153)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:31 AM

155. phew

 

Ah, that was where I saw it (post 122).

I think I had assumed hyperbole in that case (like: you've said that 27,000 times already), but the misplaced comma may have originated there indeed.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #155)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:58 AM

157. Thank you for being willing to admit an error.

FWIW I respect that

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Response to Smoke (Reply #157)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:08 AM

159. well you started it ;)

 

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #122)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:21 PM

127. "I just generated 67.5 Billion dollars a year in revenue- Awesome! "

No, you just stole 67.5 Billion dollars per year from the people who aren't the problem. Terrible.

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #118)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:58 AM

147. snooper you are over your head here.

first rule of holes when you find yourself in one, quit digging....

I can make my own AR's as can most of us and it is totally legal there will be no numbers on them, no background check, and no audit trail of any kind.... Did I just hear an oh crap that can't be true. Yes it can and it is true. Everything I need to do the job will come in the mail, as in the USPS, and be delivered to my home.

Nothing new in this at all... So tell us again how you are going to get all guns in the data bank. Your ignorance is screaming right now. Before you get into this argument you really need to know what you are talking about....

We do.....

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #147)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:09 AM

150. well, as the old people die, and leave their weapons

there will be a form on tax docs asking any weapons with the estate..

we can go from there with the form. Also, start with all new purchases-


Then, if 7 years later billy-bob-jo gets pulled over in his 03' F150 with a mis-matched bed and has a 12 gauge, he will get a ticket or go to jail for not having his weapon on the registry. Need more scenarios?

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #150)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:34 AM

151. Again your living in a fantasy land

1st off you would have to get Congress to change the laws to require both firearms to be a taxable part of a estate, not something that will happen in my lifetime at least (I'm 57 FYI )

2nd, you would also have to get the same Congress to approve 100% gun registration. Keep in mind your side couldn't pass a half assed "universal background check " bill when your side controlled the Senate, and it never stood a chance in the House . The party that runs on 100% firearms registration will not win either Senate or House.

3rd, even if your miracle happened with the first 2 you still won't get any cooperation from 80%of the gun owners in the USA. Look at the statistics for the recent AWB bill's passed in Connecticut, an estimated 80-90%of gun owners in the state are ignoring the law. They are currently felons under Connecticut law, but I don't see the state rounding them up or building new prisons to house the estimated 250.000 new instant felons

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #150)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:03 PM

165. you are smoking some good crap. My son already knows how to make his own AR

and how to roll all his own ammo.

Sorry charlie, no cigar.

You need to take a very careful look at today's reality. More stupid gun laws are being overturned by the courts or voted out by the voters than are being passed. It is a trend that has been going on for the last few years.

The last Two SCOTUS 2A rulings have decimated the antigun crews tactics. The last two major ninth rulings in Kalifornia has demolished their 10 day waiting period, and put the state in a shall issue position for CCW's. This ruling also extends Heller in that the Ninth found that the right to have a firearm for self defence extends out the front door and into the public.

This is all real and gun rights is on a downhill run and picking up steam.

You are in total BS land with your crap... I could continue your education but you get the point, but if your do not We shall continue this "reality class" on another day.

And I, and many others in here, have and will share the information on how to find the needed supplies, pieces, parts, and tools to make your very own AR in your own home...legally and relatively quickly.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #147)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 09:34 AM

154. He/She/ They/It is not trying to discuss He/She/They/It is just trying to getyour goat NT

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Response to snooper1 (Reply #118)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:28 AM

160. Who's this "we" you refer to keeping track of OUR guns?

 

How about "we" start tracking how much sugar you consume? That ok with you?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:09 AM

3. This has been standard practice for years

Guns on display at any trade show are non functional for safety reasons, and as mentioned federal law requires NICS checks on all firearms purchased.

Attendees are pemitted to have working firearms on them if they have a approved CCW permit recognized by the state of Tennessee. Not sure if open carry is allowed in Tennessee but if it is that would be approved during the convention also.

The only functions were firearms are not allowed are concerts in a different venue in the evening. This is due to beer being sold at the concerts, Tennessee law prohibits firearms where alcohol is served IIRR

You loose again

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:26 AM

5. What did I lose in the first place?

ALL GUNS on the convention floor will be non operational.

Because guns are dangerous.

Unless, of course Crazy D says so.

Sara will be there. You going?


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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:07 AM

7. I'd say any claim to honesty first off

All guns on display will be non functional, any guns carried by legally licensed CCW permit holders will be totally functional


And no, I'm not going this year. I went last year to look for all the anti gun protesters and only saw 3 I guess you were to busy looking for memes on the net or Bloomturd didn't send you a free ticket

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:17 AM

8. There is only one kind of gun show I like to attend.

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:23 AM

97. retracting soon?

 

http://discussionist.com/1014126337#post96


as you demanded that the OP do ...

http://www.discussionist.com/101690594#post10

edit, oops, pardon me, that was somebody else making the same allegation.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #97)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:31 AM

99. Nope....facts are on my side

You remember facts, something you love to ignore when proven wrong

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #99)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:32 PM

103. quite sad, really

 

Not me, I'm inured.

But, like, for humanity.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:29 AM

88. You are totally and completely wrong.

If you have CCW that is valid there you are good to go with your carry gun. Your pic is a whole bunch of projection... Just the thought of guns makes you do funny things.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:27 PM

108. i'm loathe to defend anything associated with the NRA, Miss Quay, but people with carry

licenses are allowed to have them there. It's only the guns for sale that will be non operational; you can buy them there but they have to be picked up from a licensed dealer afterwards.

I had always thought all guns were banned from the conference, too, and I thought it was hilarious.

but I was wrong, at least for this convention. I do think they may have other meetings where guns are not allowed, period, but I am not sure of that anymore...

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Response to Jaime Lannister (Reply #108)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:48 PM

120. Again, some NRA conventions have had areas where a firearm wasn't allowed due to local laws

As I've mentioned, 99% of the time that will be areas where alcohol is being served and local laws prohibited carrying firearms in the area.

The disabled display weapons goes back decades and is SOP for any and all trade shows of this type. The reasons are 2 fold as has been mentioned, some of these weapons will be prototypes so to prevent theft you pull a proprietary part to render the weapon inoperable and easier to trace (....yes sir, you need a bolt carrier group that rifle or firing pin for that prototype pistol ?.....let me make a call "real" quick ).

The other reason is safey.....some booths get 1000's of people per day handling the display items.....

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #120)

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 09:39 PM

183. well the alcohol thing i know as well, it's just following local laws. point i am getting at is, as

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I loathe the NRA.. but the meme that "they don't allow guns at their convention is that they're afraid of getting shot" as put out by fellow liberals is false, and that the reason is they are following the local states laws; on floor purchases being transferred to a local FFL to complete, for example... or you can't have guns around the booze, for another example...

and the disabled weapon displays until sold are also common sense...

I don't think i'm in any disagreement with you anywhere, we might be talking past one another...

but since if the state allows that CCw people can carry in certain parts of the convention.. it totally blows the whole meme that no guns are allowed out of the water

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Response to Jaime Lannister (Reply #183)

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 10:25 PM

184. Just remember the body count with all those guns loaded last weekend

ZERO.

Grabbers need something to hate gun owners for.......as much as you might hate the NRA right now remember, the left is trying to ban all 223/5/.56 ammo......

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #184)

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:44 PM

185. you don't need to remind me, D, i hate the NRA because they are simply a gun sales lobby...

it doesn't change my support for the 2nd... I don't didn't need the NRA to tell me shit to get the rifles I want, I won't send them money.. if it was solely firearms training and safety like it was before it became politicized, different story..... i'd give em money...

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:06 AM

6. Of course guns are dangerous.

That is what makes them useful as tools.

Federal and state laws govern the transfer of firearms. You should know this already.

Insurance agencies govern the "safety" practices of the convention; the NRA gets no more say in this than you do.

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Response to JoeNikon (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:20 AM

9. Useful tools.

Exactly like 90% of the NRA membership.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:22 AM

10. You forgot your penis insult

Since that's the best you can do, insults and memes, facts on the other hand are not your friend

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 02:44 AM

11. Gun free zone for the NRA convention floor.

A clear violation of the second amendment.

That is a fact.

What a bunch of hypocritical cowards.


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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 03:11 AM

12. Those pesky facts have a habit of eluding you......

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson%20/2015/04/07/security-assembling-nra-visit/25425587/

http://www.nraam.org/

Notice this little thing in the middle of the page.

"During the 2015 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits, lawfully carried firearms will be permitted in the Music City Center with the proper license in accordance with Tennessee law. Bridgestone Arena prohibits the possession of firearms. When carrying your firearm, remember to follow all federal, state and local laws."

Again, facts alluding a gun grabber.......and you wonder why your side can't pass laws outside of some few anti gun states dancing on the blood of children

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:29 AM

24. Not really.

The NRA wants guns in churches, schools and grocery stores and yet no operational firearms on the conventon floor. They act like they are afraid of something. Thats a fact.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:01 AM

31. Keep digging ...

I find it entertaining.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:36 AM

41. Me too.

I love watching gun fetishists fall all over themselves trying to defend the NRA.

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:33 AM

161. You're wasting your time with Quay

 

That one cannot be reached. She (or it) drank the Koolaid a LONG TIME AGO...

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Response to Bo Diddley (Reply #161)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:36 AM

162. Waste of time with all the anti gunners here

We can present facts all day long but they have "faith" on their side.

Funny thing is the same people belittle anyone who believes in religion and says that believers ignore "facts" as posted, then turn round and worship their faiths

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #162)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:39 AM

164. That's the liberal response

 

when the facts are not on their side, it becomes a personal attack on the person WITH the facts. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. As someone once said, "Though liberals do a great deal of talking about hearing other points of view, it sometimes shocks them to learn that there are other points of view".

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:41 AM

42. A fact huh?

Lies, damned lies, and gun-control talking points.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #42)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:47 AM

44. except the part about the remove firing pins.

What are they afraid of?

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:02 PM

50. They aren't and you are confused.

Or deliberatley dishonest. Firearms carried by those who CCW will be fully operational. A point that you have repeatedly failed to acknowledge. Typical.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #44)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:42 PM

52. They're afriad of breaking the local gun laws and going to jail

.

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Response to the more you know (Reply #52)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:50 PM

56. Afraid of breaking the law, but totally cool with hypocrisy.

Got it.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #56)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:11 PM

63. Don't be stupid, there's nothing hypocritical about following the laws of the state and city you

happen to be in. The facility specifically bans guns, in your twisted opinion what should the NRA do about this? Break the law and invite people to carry weapons into the facility?

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Response to the more you know (Reply #63)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:16 PM

64. Nope.

Just move to a venue where they can walk the walk instead of just talking the talk. Its not that hard.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #64)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:22 PM

68. Walk what walk exactly? The NRA supports legal gun owners who follow gun laws, not criminals

A logical person can easily see that the NRA is walking the walk by following the laws and rules of the state, city and facility. If they moved the event to a facility that allowed people to carry weapons you would be bitching about the jobs lost at the facility they left. You would be bitching about so many people carrying around guns at a convention and you would be mocking people for choosing to use their right to carry those weapons.

Anti-gun loons are always looking for something petty to bitch about, you'll be hoping and praying that someone gets shot within a few blocks of this place just so you can bitch about the NRA. You'll be hoping that someone is careless and drops a gun in a bathroom and shoots themselves in the leg just so you can use it to bitch about. You'll fall over your own feet to run here and bitch about some "law abiding gun owner" who shot himself in the leg.

The NRA is walking the walk, what are you doing besides bitching about them following the law?

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Response to the more you know (Reply #68)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:32 PM

74. Wow. Another gun fetishists and mind reader all rolled into one.

What other of my thoughts can you read? What else do I hope and pray for? Bitch about?

I am expressing free speech. I think they are hypocrites and cowards to pull the firing pins and ban operational firearms from the convention floor.


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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #74)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:41 PM

75. They're cowards for following the law? It's against the fucking law, get a clue



This is a hypocrite.



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Response to the more you know (Reply #75)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:52 PM

76. False meme is false. She had a permit and was never charged for a gun crime.

I thought you guys supported gun rights.

Make up your minds, I can't keep up with your convoluted thoughts.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #76)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:00 PM

77. She had a permit? I guess that means she's a crazy gun nut right?

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Response to the more you know (Reply #77)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:03 PM

78. ...

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #78)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:12 PM

79. Awww, somebody haz a sad.

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Response to the more you know (Reply #63)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:18 PM

66. Obvious troll is obvious. (nt)

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #66)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:23 PM

69. I know, I know... sometimes it's just fun to throw them a bone every now and then.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #129)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:45 PM

131. And you've been timed out how many times?

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #131)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:46 PM

132. oh, I lose track

 

because it's not like I actually care.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:31 AM

89. Not a fact you have been well informed differently so this is willful ignorance at best

and a bold faced lie one inch past that. If you have a CCW that is valid at that location you are good to go with your legally carried fully functional firearm...

The truth matters... get a clue.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:21 AM

152. Sha-wing!

 

Good one Quay!

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Response to JoeNikon (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:31 PM

83. Why would they choose to conviene in a Republican State

that denies them their god given rights to bear arms? Are they that neutered?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 04:03 AM

14. If I went to the NRA convention and bought a gun

Federal LAW would prohibit me from taking possession.

The gun would have to be shipped to a FFL dealer in Colorado and I'd have to go t through a BGC here.

That's nothing out of the ordinary

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Response to Smoke (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:06 AM

18. i loathe the NRA but I too see that using that as some kind of gotcha is lame. Purchases have to go

through an FFL and the buyer through a check like you said; it's the law. The article stating that like it's some big deal is ludicrous.

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Response to Jaime Lannister (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:42 AM

21. The background check isn't the issue

Federal Law prohibits you from buying a firearm across state lines.

I'm in Colorado I can't drive to Cheyenne, buy a gun and drive it back home.

It would have to be shipped from an FFL in Wyoming to one in Colorado Springs and I'd have to take possession here.

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Response to Smoke (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:57 AM

36. Federal law allows long rifle purchases across state lines with a NICS check

And the rifle/shotgun being legal in your home state. Your thinking handgun purchases, those have to be shipped between FFL's between states.

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:01 PM

49. Your thinking handgun purchases (sic)

That's because I haven't bought a rifle in years

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Response to Smoke (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:47 PM

58. wait wut? I live in NY, I bought a rifle in my home state of Maine. They ran a NYS background

check instead of a Maine one, I took the rifle and was good to go... as D stated below, you mean handguns don't you?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 04:17 AM

15. Give em a break.

There's ideology and there's practicality. Those old codgers are going to be out of town, boozing it up and this happening on a convention scale would not be good for the cause:

http://www.discussionist.com/101676656

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 04:25 AM

16. No need

The NRA "clause" is pretty much iron clad..

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Response to Blade53 (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:08 AM

20. What "clause" would that be?

Everyone gets to carry around a death machine and whip it out whenever they want?

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Response to Attila Gorilla (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 06:45 AM

22. Why not? every one gets to drive around in a "death machine"'

I don't hear you complaining about that

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Response to Smoke (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:35 AM

25. Engineering 101...

 

Cars are designed to move people from place to place..
Guns are designed to move them to the cemetery..

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:40 AM

27. How is that relevant?

If cars kill more people than guns and they're not even designed to that there's clearly a problem with cars

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Response to Smoke (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:51 AM

46. I have never been to a car show...

Where the conveners required attendees to remove the distributor caps from their motors. Just sayin.

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Response to Smoke (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 01:07 PM

51. Itv was simply a reply designed to be..

 

Idiotic enough for some folks to comprehend..I guess I aimed a bit too high though..!!

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:33 AM

90. guns are a tool just like a hammer.

and both can kill you....

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:23 PM

107. So guns do what they are designed to do but cars don't?

Cars must be defective. Ban them and crush them all.

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Response to Dukota01 (Reply #107)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:18 PM

125. What level of intellect would...

 

Derive that from my statement....??

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Response to frankt8242 (Reply #125)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:32 AM

143. I'd say a lack of intellect would prevent one from putting two and two together

But whatever floats your boat

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:03 AM

17. well, to be honest, if you buy a gun it has to go through a FFL, it's the law. what's hypocritical

is they won't allow concealed carry at their own damned convention (if indeed that's the case)!
edit: I guess that's not the case.

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:25 AM

23. dont you need an ID

 

To get into the democratic national convention for the presidential race?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:44 AM

28. Pro CItizen Disarmement Memes we're CERTAIN to see in this thread

Well regulated militia

Gunz for everyone

Gunshow loophole

Adma Lanza got his gun legally

NRA + NASDP

No one wants to take your gunz

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Response to Smoke (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:48 AM

179. so how much money did you have riding on that?

 

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Response to i verglas (Reply #179)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 01:51 PM

180. The thread isn't over yet

But If I'm wrong I will post a retraction

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:42 AM

29. What has the NRA's position been, for prior-year conventions?

Has this nonoperational gun rule been in effect before, or is this something new?

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Response to saspamco (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:47 AM

30. They have followed the rules of the venues

where the events are being held. If the venue prohibits firearms then that is the policy.

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Response to saspamco (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:08 AM

32. It depends on local laws and the venue

I went to the Annual Meeting in Charlotte in 2010. No carry allowed in the Convention Center, per local law.

I went to the one in Houston three years ago, and I and many others legally carried concealed within the convention center, again, in accordance with local laws.

As far as the display guns, I don't know for sure. It would make sense to have the firing pins removed or otherwise altered to make them non-fireable. The Exhibits at the Annual Meeting are not really a "gun show" as many think of it. None of the guns being exhibited are for sale at the show, but some vendors will take orders and ship to your local FFL IAW regular laws.

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Response to saspamco (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:08 AM

38. Fools Gold covered it pretty well

Anything on display is nonoperational for 2 reasons. To discourage theft and safety reasons. It keeps the 1 idiot out of the 100.000 people who attend from shooting someone or worst case, bringing a loaded magazine in for a common type weapon like say a 1911 and committing suicide at the event with one of the display weapons.

Attendees can bring their CCW weapons in without problems as long as their state issued permit is recognized in the state holding the convention.

"Open carry" of privately owned long rifles and such depends again on the rules in that state, if against the laws of the host state then it's not allowed.

You can be sure as snot the NRA looks at what the laws are in each state before they book a convention, it's a safe bet you'll never see one in New York, California or states like that.

The "Shot Show' held every year has the same rules

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:22 AM

92. So attendees WILL be able to carry loaded, functioning firearms.....

to the speeches of all the Republican big-wigs who are dutifully turning up at the convention, and those possible presidential candidates will have nothing in the way of Secret Service protection?

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Response to saspamco (Reply #92)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:49 AM

101. They do it every year

This is another great "discovery" on the lefts part that they have no clue on, this has been SOP for years. The only people in the event who can carry loaded firearms are CCW permit holders that have permits recognized by the host state.

Since CCW permit holders are vetted when they apply it's a safe bet their more law biding than some of the folks attending a Democratic National Convention

In case your wondering, here is a list of states that have reciprocity with Tennessee

https://www.tn.gov/safety/handgun/reciprocity.shtml

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Response to saspamco (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:50 PM

53. This is a long standing rule...

...for the VENDORS. Emphasis for the gun-controllers who seem to have problems with context. The VENDORS are often showcasing prototypes and NFA items and it's common practice to render such weapons non-functional at trade shows since they will often be handled by hundreds to thousands of people over the course of the convention.

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:46 AM

35. False, of course.

It's the venue, Bridgestone Arena, that has a "no weapons" policy, to which the NRA agreed in order to use it. Other convention activities, at other venues, are permitting carry.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #35)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:44 AM

43. I am so disappointed.

The NRA sold out their principles for convenience.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #43)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:52 AM

47. I have to admit I'm a bit surprised.

Not disappointed, as I'm no fan of the organization (despite being a bit of an RKBA activist), and thus have low expectations. But I suspect they have limited options in most cities for truly large venues like that. You're gonna play by the venue's rules or not play at all.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #43)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:34 AM

91. They sold out nothing, It is the gun grabbers fantasy that they do things that promote gun

violence and create dangerous situations. This is the responsible action that you say does not happen, but it does, so that make you a L....

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:47 AM

144. The NRA is obeying the laws. That is what we gun owners have been telling you for years.

Now that YOU discovered that NRA members are law abiding people you are trying to find something wrong with it.

I only see one hypocrite in here and it is YOU.

Should we take a vote on this?????

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #144)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:00 AM

167. I have not discovered anything of the sort.

The NRA is telling me I need a gun in the classroom.

And who is we that is voting? Is that a Royal we?

Go ahead. Maybe We can get me banned, cut off my head, firing squad or something.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #167)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:04 AM

169. you may look up the current address for reality and rational thought.

You seem to no longer be in touch with them.....

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #169)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:13 AM

171. Wow.

I almost took that as a personal attack. You will have to do better.

Besides all that....


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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #171)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:20 AM

172. I very much doubt that you know enough about the subject to make that judgement....

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:08 AM

37. Awwww....you tried so hard.

And still failed.


During the 2015 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits, lawfully carried firearms will be permitted in the Music City Center with the proper license in accordance with Tennessee law. Bridgestone Arena prohibits the possession of firearms. When carrying your firearm, remember to follow all federal, state and local laws.


Anti-gunners and honesty, someday they will meet.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:09 AM

39. "Anti-gunners and honesty, someday they will meet."

I suggest playing the Powerball, your odds are better

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #39)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:21 AM

40. I know "someday" is not in my lifetime...

...or even in this dimension. Particularly when you have a gun-control advocate that says they aren't really a gun-control advocate.

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Response to .30M1 (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:09 PM

48. I actually know a fair few who are.

Perhaps I have an odd perspective, being a far-left type who's also a shooting enthusiast (competitor, in fact). But several of the gun control activists I know personally are very straightforward about their aims and don't play fast and loose with the facts.

For example, I know Jenna Yuille of Gun Owners for Responsible Ownership fairly well, and she's very straightforward and honest. She has no problem admitting what she doesn't know about firearms (and has learned a LOT, some if it from me, in the time since she became an activist following her mother's murder in the Clackamas Town Center shooting here in Portland). She's not prone to making counterfactual statements (or corrects them when she learns she was in error)...she's just not the sort of person who's comfortable with a deliberate lie, and I respect her for that.

Note: it's probably a good thing Jenna's a straight shooter (see what I did there?). She's almost ridiculously mediagenic: cute as a button, well-spoken, has a very compelling story, and a marketing professional's sense of what does and does not work in the media. As a "bad operator," she could do more harm than a dozen Diane Feinsteins

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:50 AM

45. So are lies and idiots..

Especially when combined.

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 05:58 PM

54. What a bunch of hypocrites.

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Response to John Q Citizen (Reply #54)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 07:40 PM

57. Yeap, the gun grabbers in this string sure are

Ignoring the facts repeatedly posted on what the actual rules and local laws are where the convention is being held to farther their hate.

Keeps them warm at night, in the culture war their waging and losing

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Response to John Q Citizen (Reply #54)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:00 PM

60. From post 12

http://www.nraam.org/

"During the 2015 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits, lawfully carried firearms will be permitted in the Music City Center with the proper license in accordance with Tennessee law. Bridgestone Arena prohibits the possession of firearms. When carrying your firearm, remember to follow all federal, state and local laws."


Proves the OP is intentionally misleading are you going to admit it or continue to perpetuate a lie?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:57 PM

59. So now that you've been conclusively proven wrong are you going to retract your opening statement? N

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Response to Smoke (Reply #59)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:08 PM

61. No. I have not been proven conclusively been proven wrong.

The firing pins are removed because guns are dangerous. The NRA are hypocrites and cowards.

Deal with it.





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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #61)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:29 PM

73. You were proven wrong long ago.

You just keep shoveling crap anyway. Someday you'll be original.


Nah.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #61)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:30 PM

110. Is that your selfie video

Or just you maturity level on display?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:09 PM

62. For this thread.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #62)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:17 PM

65. Oh.....look.....a cartoon........

I didn't realize it was the Children's Hour.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #65)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:21 PM

67. Feeling emasculated by children and cartoons? No worries!

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #67)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:28 PM

70. Uh, no. That would be your side.

Given the stellar lack of achievement by the pro-control side over the last 20 years; emasculation would be an apt description.

Even dancing in the blood of the children killed at Sandy Hook your side could not accomplish something as simple as a bill requiring universal background checks on all firearm sales without jacking it up.

All the cartoons, broad brush smears, penis jokes, false equivalencies and bought and paid for astro-turf groups using Bloomberg's money cannot stop the progress in expanding the rights of gun owners across the country.

Keep up the good work; in another 20 I see firearm rights expanded by another order of magnitude.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #65)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:28 PM

71. Someone should post all the checks Chicago and DC have written the NRA

The past few years, now that would be funny

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:29 PM

72. For this thread.

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Response to Liberty (Reply #72)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:16 PM

80. Uh oh...

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #80)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:20 PM

81. I am more partial to this one.

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Response to Liberty (Reply #81)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:25 PM

82. Meh. I like words with my memes.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #82)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:50 PM

84. Kind of like this one?

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Response to Liberty (Reply #84)

Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:55 PM

86. This one is more truthful.

But its cute when you think you are going to take on the US Government.

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #86)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:31 AM

93. Yup paranoid



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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:47 AM

94. Even Castle Bansalot admits this is false

They even link to Rachel Mad Cow admiting it's false

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12628673

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:54 AM

95. The queen of NRA hate herself, Rachel Mad Cow admits this is false

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Response to Smoke (Reply #95)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:30 AM

98. You'll never convince the haters that the disabled display firearms

Have been SOP for decades by manufactures for their own reasons......this is some great new "discovery" in their minds.

CCW is permitted at the speakers every year the convention is held if legal at the state and venue, MadCow is praying something will happen just to farther his/her's cause

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #98)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:43 PM

104. The term you're looking for is "further," not "farther."

And your resorting to childish taunts like "Mad Cow" and "his/her's" negate any constructive point you were trying to make. Thanks for the ineptitude.

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Response to saspamco (Reply #104)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:33 PM

112. Damn, the spelling police are out



FYI officer, using my smartphone before and wasn't paying attention to the auto correct.....since it bothers you so much I'll just leave it there

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Response to Smoke (Reply #95)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:10 AM

170. That was awesome! Thanks for sharing!

I never argue with conservatives when the agree with Rachel Maddow.

So, bring your gun to the Jeb Bush speech, they probably won't search you and there probably won't be any metal detectors, and they probably won't even check your permit. But leave it in the hotel room for the Alan Jackson show. The guns on display in the nine acres of guns are inoperable...because...guns are dangerous.

And Tennessee Republicans are total tools of the NRA.

I'm glad we got that all straight. People were upset.

Thanks Rachel!

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #170)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 08:22 AM

176. I actually ended up about 30 feet from.W while carrying a gun one day

Obviously nothing.happened the gun didn't whisper in my ear or send mind control thought into my head

I DID think it was pretty cool to live in a country that trusted me that much.

See, I am what's called a Law abiding citizen and I remain a Law abiding citizen regardless of whether or not I happen to have a firearm in my possession.

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Response to Smoke (Reply #176)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 08:28 AM

177. The country might trust you, but I doubt the Secret Service does.

Did they know you were packing?

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Response to Miss Quay (Reply #177)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:08 AM

178. They didn't know that I SPECIFICALLY had a gun

But I presume that they assumed people along the route would be armed.

It WAS Colorado after all

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:00 AM

96. I think the press had a failure to communicate

 

The OP was posted Wednesday at 12:42 a.m. (i.e. late Tuesday night), and the URL for the article shows the date 5 April 2015.

What was copied and pasted from the press article was:

All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed

But today, Thursday, I go to the link and I see:

9:07 a.m. CDT April 9, 2015
All guns on display on the exhibit floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed

Ah, the subtle difference there.

Unfortunately, google's cached version is dated today as well.

Perhaps it is the Tennessean that should be retracting, rather than just sneaking in a little correction.

Here's somebody else quoting the same text in the same form as in the OP, on April 7:

http://www.boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/not-news-guns-banned-from-convention/80/7971898

and another:

http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31902&p=452659

and another:

http://www.carolinashootersclub.com/threads/no-carry-at-the-nra-convention.193154/

The Tennessean seems to have touched off quite a non-partisan firestorm.

And I'd say anybody alleging dishonesty in the OP should be retracting.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #96)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:38 AM

100. you never know ...

 

somebody might acknowedge this post ^^^ some day.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #100)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:34 PM

113. Only you

Always tooting your own horn


Because no one else will

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Response to i verglas (Reply #96)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:37 PM

115. A truly honest presentation of the story would say that the NRA is acting in compliance...

...with local laws and that it didn't even ask for any exceptions to be made on its behalf with respect to the bearing of arms by its members or other attendees.

That's how it was presented by NPR this morning. It was refreshing to hear.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #115)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:41 PM

128. the OP linked to and QUOTED a mainstream media outlet local to the story

 

The accusations of dishonesty here were made against the author of the OP.

Those who made those accusations need to retract them.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #128)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:08 PM

134. The subject line is a fabrication.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #134)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:17 PM

136. the subject line says exactly what the content of the news report said

 

Give it up.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #136)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:33 PM

138. It's intentionally written to mislead readers about what actually happened.

The NRA didn't ban operational firearms from its convention. The srory is dishonest from the get-go.

Real honesty is hard. It involves presenting information free of bias and untainted by personal agendas.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #136)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:01 AM

168. You win.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #128)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:52 AM

145. Retract my butt

After she was corrected again and again she knew the truth but continued the lie. So this may be a case of when she became a liar but not if she is a liar. She was told the truth over and over again....

We did our part, she did not tell the truth even after she was told.

That is dishonesty top to bottom and end to end.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #145)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 12:54 AM

146. uh, no thank you

 

that's just completely gross.

Retract your own butt.

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:57 AM

102. Simple question - why didn't the NRA go to a venue that allows weapons on site? Why aren't they

 

putting their members' money with their collective mouth is?

The easy answer is hypocrisy, and the lust for money.

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Response to JeffJenk (Reply #102)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:51 PM

105. The easy answer would be wrong.

The NRA moves the convention aound the country to accommodate people that live in different regions and don't want to have to travel as far all the time. The use whatever venue is available for the area and follow all applicable rules. The faux outrage from the left on this is really quite amusing.

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Response to JeffJenk (Reply #102)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:32 PM

111. That's not an easy answer. It's a facile answer that confirms your obvious biases and assumptions.

Welcome back from your latest vacation. Enjoy your stay.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #111)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:35 PM

114. Betting pool??

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #114)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:40 PM

117. I bet "Gulag."

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #117)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 01:49 PM

121. Wish we had one long term storage

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Response to Crazy D (Reply #121)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:39 PM

141. Well, that was quick.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #141)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:28 PM

142. For some people it doesn't take long

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Response to JeffJenk (Reply #102)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 01:02 AM

148. good business is good business

They are not required to consider your advice... They have become the biggest advocacy group in the history of the united states without ever asking for your advice....

that explains the value of it.....

funny how that works.....

the nra and it's members are law abiding citizens and somehow now you trying to sell that as being wrong.....

that is the hypocrisy in this post.

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:31 PM

137. The basic issue of hypocrisy that the rightists are deliberately ignoring is THE issue, not who can

 

crawl around with their loaded gun at the ready.

Honestly - forgetting the little bullshit about who, what and where guns are okay at their convention, is there really any difference between

NRA is bannng guns
and
NRA is obeying a rule that bans guns?

Especially for a gang that crows about not knuckling under to the gubmint, it really seems like a weak-assed copout.
"The evil city (or private company owning the venue) made me do it" just does not sound like the strong Amerikan the gunners like to portray themselves as.

They are admitting that they love guns, but just not enough to adhere to their "principles" about all guns, all places, all good.

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Response to JeffJenk (Reply #137)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:38 PM

139. Yes, there is a huge difference.


Honestly - forgetting the little bullshit about who, what and where guns are okay at their convention, is there really any difference between 

NRA is bannng guns 
and 
NRA is obeying a rule that bans guns? 

The first statement is factually incorrect.

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Response to JeffJenk (Reply #137)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:45 AM

156. if they can go ahead and hold their palaver

 

in Denver 11 days after the gun massacre there because it would have been just too complicated to reschedule it and their principles prohibited them from cancelling it, you'd think they could get themselves together, in all the time they have each year, to find a place to hold a convention where their principles wouldn't be compromised, eh?

Surely those states that let them wander around wherever they like with their guns should be rewarded with all that convention money!

Maybe they could hold a great big camp-out convention in a national park ...

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Response to i verglas (Reply #156)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:01 AM

158. The NRA bylaws required an annual meeting.

They conducted a truncated session to fulfill this requirement and adjourned so as not to cause further distress. The yearly convention is moved around the country so that members can attend locally if they cannot fly or drive across country, and uses whatever space is available.

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Response to i verglas (Reply #156)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 01:58 PM

181. Nothing in the NRA's principles prohibits a facility from setting and enforcing a weapons policy.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #181)

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:12 PM

182. and nobody said it did

 

Dog almighty, if you are going to continue this practice of following me around and posting subject lines in reply to my posts, can you make an effort?

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Response to Miss Quay (Original post)

Mon Apr 27, 2015, 08:33 PM

186. factually wrong

All guns on the convention floor will be nonoperational, with the firing pins removed, guns purchased Those are only displays by vendors. Individuals were free to carry, loaded, in accordance with TN law.

and any during the NRA convention will have to be picked up at a Federal Firearms License dealer, near where the purchaser lives, and will require a legal identification. as required by the 1968 Gun Control Act. Purchasing one directly can only be done by individuals who are legal residents of the same state.

The claim was traced to a tweet from former Monstanto PR executive Shannon Watts, and the dim bulb media copied and pasted without bothering to check the facts.

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