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Tue May 13, 2014, 08:38 PM

Beware posters!

Last edited Wed May 14, 2014, 12:04 AM - Edit history (1)

This is my second post here, and will be my last. I hadn't considered how quickly right-wing punks would start impersonating well-known DUers, and am embarrassed to admit that I was taken in by one. Nadin nor Prosense, as far as I can discern, are posting here.

Please be alert to impostors. I had my doubts about the success of this board, and they were confirmed in a remarkably short time. It's the way paranoid, self-deluded, maniacal wingnuts roll... and they will not stop.

ETA: Apparently this won't be my last post here. Suckered on the way in, suckered on the way out. Like that's never happened to you...

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Reply Beware posters! (Original post)
Sardonian May 2014 OP
Strange Luck May 2014 #1
YouKnowItsTrue May 2014 #18
TotallyNotNuclearDem May 2014 #2
Curmudgeonish May 2014 #8
john262 May 2014 #12
Glue May 2014 #43
Dingus Squatford Jr. May 2014 #68
Selahedin May 2014 #3
Sardonian May 2014 #16
YouKnowItsTrue May 2014 #19
Sardonian May 2014 #22
YouKnowItsTrue May 2014 #23
Sardonian May 2014 #24
YouKnowItsTrue May 2014 #28
Sardonian May 2014 #29
galileosghost May 2014 #34
Conserve1 May 2014 #37
brew9876 May 2014 #41
Glue May 2014 #44
Butchie_T May 2014 #20
Expat Observer May 2014 #35
Lefty May 2014 #4
Name removed May 2014 #47
Lefty May 2014 #53
unasleep_in_2003 May 2014 #64
turquoise May 2014 #61
One Who Grows May 2014 #5
toast-chef May 2014 #38
Eris Carpathia May 2014 #6
EAN32 May 2014 #60
iffley May 2014 #7
One Who Grows May 2014 #9
john262 May 2014 #10
Name removed May 2014 #48
john262 May 2014 #50
NO_NO_DOWN_BADBOY May 2014 #67
Stars May 2014 #11
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy May 2014 #15
Crazy in SoFla May 2014 #13
Stars May 2014 #14
WildCherry May 2014 #45
Name removed May 2014 #49
Penelope Jones May 2014 #63
the mad poet May 2014 #17
Baron Funchausen May 2014 #21
ReTooled May 2014 #26
Baron Funchausen May 2014 #31
Lefty May 2014 #54
Baron Funchausen May 2014 #55
ReTooled May 2014 #25
Sardonian May 2014 #27
ReTooled May 2014 #30
ima o ikiru May 2014 #32
Dusty Weatherwax May 2014 #40
Silent But Deadly May 2014 #33
Political Athiest May 2014 #36
Sardonian May 2014 #52
Silent But Deadly May 2014 #66
aberro May 2014 #39
Post removed May 2014 #42
MountainDew May 2014 #51
Glue May 2014 #46
Chuck Schick May 2014 #56
Sardonian May 2014 #57
Chuck Schick May 2014 #59
turquoise May 2014 #62
uncledad May 2014 #65
hunter May 2014 #58
cilantro May 2014 #69
FORD May 2014 #70

Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:39 PM

1. I don't look at the names but the content of what a person posts

Over time that may change as I get used to styles and so on but starting here it is best to just assume you don't know anyone

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Response to Strange Luck (Reply #1)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:10 PM

18. Beautiful!

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:40 PM

2. I kinda figured with PR0SENSE.

It's lame at best.

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Response to TotallyNotNuclearDem (Reply #2)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:44 PM

8. I alerted on that one.

Civility should apply to those we like, and those we don't.

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Response to Curmudgeonish (Reply #8)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:47 PM

12. +1 n/t

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Response to Curmudgeonish (Reply #8)

Wed May 14, 2014, 03:48 PM

43. +1

Fair play.

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Response to TotallyNotNuclearDem (Reply #2)

Thu May 15, 2014, 11:36 PM

68. ProLapse is pretty funny, though. n/t

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:40 PM

3. I had my doubts about the success of this board...?


Didn't it just start up?

How do you measure success?

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Response to Selahedin (Reply #3)

Tue May 13, 2014, 09:25 PM

16. I'll break my vow so as to be decorous.

You're owed a response.

Having participated on message boards dating from pre-Usenet intranets it is inevitable that an open forum, whether moderated or not, juried or not, will eventually devolve into a massive deluge of rightwing vandalism. Take a look at Media Matters for a good example. Now on Disqus, threads of 3 or 4 thousand responses are de rigueur, most of which consist of deleted posts by banned posters who quickly, via a variety of methods to circumvent sock puppetry, reappear almost immediately to slash and burn. It used to be a go-to site for me, but I haven't participated in over a year.

The most successful, tried-and-true method is impersonation. It's a fucking plague and it's completely unstoppable. A MIRT of sorts would be useful, but its efficacy on an open board is highly questionable.

That's one of the reasons I doubted that this board would succeed. I may be proven wrong, but history shows otherwise.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #16)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:15 PM

19. OMGawd are you serious?! There are forums all over the net where people of all color, size shape,

religion, and all political views seem to get along just fine. Group think and one sided politics is not the norm in the real world.

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Response to YouKnowItsTrue (Reply #19)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:33 PM

22. Open political fora?

Balderdash.

Show me three.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #22)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:45 PM

23. Umm, I said one sided politics is NOT the norm in the real world. How can I show U 3?

The only one I know of is DU.

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Response to YouKnowItsTrue (Reply #23)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:00 AM

24. Eh?

You said:

"There are forums all over the net where people of all color, size shape, religion, and all political views seem to get along just fine."

If such fora exist - open (as in multi-ideological) political dialog - "all over the place", then you should be able to cite three.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #24)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:13 AM

28. Are you for real? You don't think that people of different political opinions can get along and

speak about politics on say... a pet forum or such? It happens everyday in real life all of the time. Neighbors and friends from different political camps talk politics daily.

It may be really hard for you to believe,,, but,,, like I said... DU is the ONLY place that I know of that will only allow one sided political views.

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Response to YouKnowItsTrue (Reply #28)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:52 AM

29. I am quite existential, thank you.

It would be useful if you would pay attention. I specifically singled out political fora in both our conversation and my OP.

Otherwise, I don't know. In real life people generally seem to get along just fine... as far as I can ascertain from my own world view. On the internet, no, not really. If there's a political corner of a discussion board, it will be ugly.

Here: IMDB
Here: eBay
Here: Amazon

Finally, if you think that DU is the only "one-sided" political discussion board, then your bliss is to be commended.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #29)

Wed May 14, 2014, 06:32 AM

34. fancy speech patterns aside, I think you should keep an open mind.

 

i think it might be a fun place for an actual exchange of ideas not tired framing.

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Response to galileosghost (Reply #34)

Wed May 14, 2014, 11:40 AM

37. LIKE

No "Like" button so I improvised..

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Response to Conserve1 (Reply #37)

Wed May 14, 2014, 03:31 PM

41. Me too!

"Like"

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Response to galileosghost (Reply #34)

Wed May 14, 2014, 03:49 PM

44. I refuse to follow the pack.

LOVE!!!

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #16)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:21 PM

20. Ummm,

A toast to revisionist history then.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #16)

Wed May 14, 2014, 07:58 AM

35. How are wingnuts spoofing DU identities?

I thought all the names were being reserved by DU?

Also, I must not be going to the right Disqus sites, because the few that I frequent certainly have their share of nutters, but I don't see very many banned posts and the sock puppets (at least the obvious ones) can be counted in the low teens.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:41 PM

4. I look forward to grave dancing again.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #47)

Wed May 14, 2014, 06:27 PM

53. So you like listening to Sara Palin. Got it.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #47)

Wed May 14, 2014, 10:06 PM

64. The 1st amendment....

protects our speech against government action, not a privately owned forum. When you signed up you acknowledged that if your post was found offensive it would be removed.

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Response to Lefty (Reply #4)

Wed May 14, 2014, 09:07 PM

61. I never got the tombstone. If someone disrupted well enough to get banned, how can it be said that

he disrupted poorly?

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:42 PM

5. beware of posters?

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Response to One Who Grows (Reply #5)

Wed May 14, 2014, 11:52 AM

38. Oh the horror!

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:43 PM

6. Hope admin will deal with the impostors quickly. nt

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Response to Eris Carpathia (Reply #6)

Wed May 14, 2014, 08:56 PM

60. Me too Eris I'm getting so worked up over it already.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:43 PM

7. It took me less that three seconds to figure out both of their accounts were fakes.

I'm not seeing the dire threat.

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Response to iffley (Reply #7)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:45 PM

9. they are actually pretty lame - we know them by their poor spelling!

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:46 PM

10. Over at DU Skinner said that DU usernames are being set aside so that trolls cannot do that.

Perhaps they are using a close proximity to a DU username, but if they are somehow using your exact DU username I would alert Skinner if I were you and see if he can take care of it. Perhaps it's a bug in their new software.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #48)

Wed May 14, 2014, 04:06 PM

50. I think that my explanation is more likely. n/t

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Response to john262 (Reply #10)

Thu May 15, 2014, 11:05 PM

67. perhaps some clever person replace the letter O with the number Zero 0, and

voila: PR0SENSE. really not to difficult

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:47 PM

11. You think these imposters are RW'ers?

What about the jerks on DU? I don't put them past them.

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Response to Stars (Reply #11)

Tue May 13, 2014, 09:14 PM

15. That sounds more likely to me.

Especially the ones that were banned and have an itch to scratch.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 08:57 PM

13. Denbot and WillPitt have also been stolen

I don't understand why. Not very creative.

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Response to Crazy in SoFla (Reply #13)

Tue May 13, 2014, 09:12 PM

14. Pr0-sence too.

Not a big fan of hers but really annoyed that someone would do register like that.

I'm not sure if this is going to work. Alot of nasty already.

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Response to Stars (Reply #14)

Wed May 14, 2014, 03:54 PM

45. When trolls lack attention they starve out because it's not fun anymore.

The middle-schoolers will leave soon enough.

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Response to Stars (Reply #14)

Wed May 14, 2014, 09:25 PM

63. Well, if they're spoofing usernames

right out of the gate, their credibility is already trashed.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:04 PM

17. skinner needs to go ahead and

add a flouncing section.

it looks like it might get a lot of action..

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2014, 11:22 PM

21. For the record, I am not, in fact, me.

If there is some confusion, who's to blame?

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Response to Baron Funchausen (Reply #21)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:05 AM

26. Who are you then?

Or, are you able to divulge that information to your own consciousness?

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Response to ReTooled (Reply #26)

Wed May 14, 2014, 01:26 AM

31. Exodus, 3:14- I AM THAT I AM

And that's all what'sk I am, Popeye, 1934.

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Response to Baron Funchausen (Reply #21)

Wed May 14, 2014, 07:04 PM

54. First you have to find yourself.

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Response to Lefty (Reply #54)

Wed May 14, 2014, 07:12 PM

55. I did.

Since it was the 70s, though, when I found me I was wearing a polyester leisure suit with giant lapels, and so I said "no thanks"

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:04 AM

25. Well...buh-bye!

Too bad you couldn't stick around for a while.

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Response to ReTooled (Reply #25)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:13 AM

27. How kind!

But I've amended my post. Am I fickle or what?

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #27)

Wed May 14, 2014, 01:15 AM

30. Welcome back!

Long time no see.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 02:42 AM

32. I think the Jury system will be a big help, but I also wish it wouldn't hide the post, just make it

hidden by default, but folks could view it if they wanted to.

I wish we had a way to score and categorize posts, like slashdot - http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/05/13/2039233/5-year-old-linux-kernel-bug-fixed

That way there is no censorship, and the community can truly drive the content... and I don't have to waste time wading through the drivel... I can set a filter to see only posts rated 3 an above, for example.

Either way, I am really excited about this new board!

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Response to ima o ikiru (Reply #32)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:53 PM

40. You do know you can unhide it, right?

Just click on the "Show" button right after "This message was hidden by jury decision"

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 05:55 AM

33. If you think people are impersonating, alert on them.

The admins have ways to know who is who. They aren't going to go seeking out that information, but if it is called to their attention they can do some checking.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 08:10 AM

36. These are not the droids you are looking for...nt

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Response to Political Athiest (Reply #36)

Wed May 14, 2014, 05:49 PM

52. On reflection, maybe.

Nadin, Prosense and Will Pitt certainly have their detractors on DU, so it was probably premature to presume the impostors were wingnuts.

Years of watching boards destroyed by right-wing goons has conditioned me. Guess in this case there might be a different dynamic.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #52)

Wed May 14, 2014, 11:36 PM

66. They don't need to "spoof" their own names--they can ask the admins at DU to release them to them.

They can have their "actual" names and use them over here.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 12:30 PM

39. Don't let the screen door hit you on the butt on the way out.

 

Bye,,, Libs hate opposing opinions and life styles. But claim to like freedom... ya right.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #42)

Wed May 14, 2014, 04:27 PM

51. You're being way to kind to the OP and

 

calling her/him/it a coward is demeaning to the word Coward.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 03:58 PM

46. That happened on DU.

Not exact names, obviously, but close enough to confuse people. It happens everywhere, actually.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 07:17 PM

56. Hey, you have 9 posts....

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Response to Chuck Schick (Reply #56)

Wed May 14, 2014, 07:22 PM

57. Nope.

I have ten.

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Response to Sardonian (Reply #57)

Wed May 14, 2014, 08:33 PM

59. Hey... how do you do it? It's like your post count just goes up????

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Response to Chuck Schick (Reply #56)

Wed May 14, 2014, 09:17 PM

62. I have been trying to get to 100 today, so I can be suspicious of the posters who are only in

double digits. But, it's too much work.

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Response to turquoise (Reply #62)

Wed May 14, 2014, 11:29 PM

65. Funny.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Wed May 14, 2014, 08:13 PM

58. I'm me if anyone cares.

And this is not news.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 11:44 PM

69. Well, I don't know any DUers all that well, so I guess I won't worry too much about it.

In fact, DU has been acting up for me recently, anyway.

The site generally only partially loads these past few days, so if that keeps up, I'm unlikely to ever know any DUers very well.

If I ever do get DU to load properly again, I'll probably just assume that some of the posters there are liberal trolls impersonating Discussionist teabaggers.

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Response to Sardonian (Original post)

Thu May 15, 2014, 11:54 PM

70. How on earth would anybody know whether or not "ProSense" was the "real" one?

 

It's a 24/7 boiler room operation, for fucks sake. There was ONCE a real person behind that name (assuming a second generation DLC propagandist can be considered a real person) but I'm reasonably certain she completely franchised the operation out to others and doesn't use it herself anymore. (With the possible exception of a post or two after Jabba the Christie's unfortunate re-election that DID read like the original herself......)

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