Thu Aug 11, 2016, 08:09 PM


FBI tip led RCMP to thwart possible terrorist act by Aaron Driver ...

... in Strathroy, Ont.

(his Facebook photo)
The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation tipped off the RCMP about a person who was potentially planning a terrorist attack in Canada, says Reuters, which led the Mounties to a small Ontario town where a known ISIS sympathizer died in a confrontation with officers.

After receiving the tip Wednesday morning, police responded to what they called "a potential terrorist threat" in Strathroy, at the home of Aaron Driver, 24, who had been under a peace bond for openly supporting ISIS on social media.

RCMP told the man's family that Driver was shot after he detonated an explosive device in the back seat of a cab. The taxi driver received minor injuries and police are awaiting results of an autopsy to determine what killed Driver.

... One source said the FBI did not know the identity of the man and sent a wide notice across Canada about the potential threat.

A second source said the RCMP then realized it was Driver and deployed officers to the home in Strathroy where he was living.

Strathroy is a small town not far from my hometown, London. What on earth anyone would blow up there ...

Aaron Driver: Troubled childhood, ISIS supporter, terror threat suspect

... Born to a Christian family in Saskatchewan

Before Driver caught the attention of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Canada's spy agency, in October 2014, he went through a difficult childhood and found Islam online in his teens.

Driver was born to a Christian family in Regina. He lived there a few years while his father farmed. Throughout his life, he also lived in New Brunswick, Ontario and Alberta before moving to Manitoba in 2012.

... At 16, the father said Driver left their Ontario home and "went and lived with social services at some halfway house, and they finished raising him." Four years later, Driver returned home and told his father he had cleaned up his act and converted to Islam.

... When asked how he turned from being a devout Muslim to a "radical extremist," Driver said it was a result of reading up on the Middle East online.

"Seeing some of the things that happened in Syria, it infuriates you and it breaks your heart at the same time. And I think that if you know what's going on, you have to do something. Even if you're just speaking about it," Driver told CBC News.

"Something has to be done. People need to know what's happening to Muslims, so I think maybe that's why."

Those articles, and others linked to in them, are quite detailed, and have links to video and audio, including of the CBC's interviews with him. (Since I didn't go out in the extreme heat today to run errands, I still don't have speakers on my computer, so I haven't listened.)

When he came to attention a year ago, he agreed to a peace bond (an undertaking to keep the peace and be of good behaviour), and one condition was that he receive "religious counselling", as well as not using social media.

Lost boys, who find a cause and are found by international terrorism.

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Response to i verglas (Original post)

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 08:27 PM

1. We know what's happening to Muslims Aaron. They're being blown up by Muslims or blowing up Muslims.


Or Christians, French, Spaniards.....

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Response to i verglas (Original post)

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 08:59 PM

2. I bet $10 the FBI had a history with him.

Their friends are the only people they seem to catch

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 08:59 PM

3. ?


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Response to i verglas (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 09:01 PM

4. Every would- be terrorist the FBI catches seems to have been handled

Or massaged by the department. Entrapment

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 11, 2016, 10:26 PM

5. I see


Of course, you do realize he's Canadian and has never been outside Canada ... and the FBI was unable to name him when they reported the threat they had detected ...

... and the history he had with Canadian authorities was being released from custody on a long list of stringent conditions involving not having any contact with foreign terrorist organizations ...

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Response to i verglas (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:54 AM

6. I hope Canada is reviewing their "Peace Bond" initiative


That's a mighty impotent weapon in the war on terrorism. Unless the intention is to blow poor Taxi drivers to "Peaces"

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Response to TexMex (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:28 PM

7. it is a debate


As it is everywhere.

In February 2016:
Aaron Driver, who authorities fear might get involved in terrorist activity, says he had no choice but to agree to a peace bond.

"If I fought it, they would have added even more conditions than I'm already under," Driver told CBC News Tuesday at the Winnipeg courthouse, as he waited to sign paperwork at the clerk's office.

Driver will not go to trial. He is not facing criminal charges, but his lawyer and the Crown agreed to a peace bond to limit his activities.

During a court hearing Tuesday morning, the Crown said by agreeing to enter into the peace bond, Driver is "consenting or acknowledging that there are reasonable grounds to fear that he may participate, contribute — directly or indirectly — in the activity of a terrorist group."

In June 2015.
Driver was held without charge, on suspicion of terrorist activity, after his Charleswood-area home was raided by RCMP earlier this month.

He spent a week in custody before being released on bail. His next court date is July 9.

He had been noticed and observed by CSIS — Canada's spy agency — for his pro-ISIS activity on Twitter, using the name Harun Abdurahman.

His father, a career member of Canada's Armed Forces, told CBC News in March that CSIS had told him his son was considered a radical extremist.

The bail conditions drew criticism from the Manitoba Association of Rights and Liberties, which argues that Driver has not been accused of any crime and should not be forced to undergo religious counselling, wear an electronic bracelet and face other restrictions.(The mandatory counselling requirement was eliminated.)

Op-ed today:
2. Why was he not prosecuted?

... Mr. Driver was likely in violation of his peace-bond terms (and thus subject to imprisonment for up to four years) long before his “martyrdom” video was discovered. So why was there no arrest much earlier? Was it because he was not subject to active surveillance? Did this stem from lack of security service resources?

Or would incarceration on any of these bases simply have delayed his plot, but accelerated his move from radical opinion to a preparedness to act violently, as has been the case in Europe?

3. What is the role of prevention in our anti-terrorism strategy?

Mr. Driver challenged the constitutionality of the peace bond regime revised by Bill C-51, which changed the original 2001 system to make it easier to impose conditions. He lost most of his challenge, but was successful in having struck down the power to impose a mandatory counselling program. (Mr. Driver’s father has expressed regrets that his son was not required to attend such a program.)

Can we construct programs likely to succeed in such cases? There is considerable debate about this in the social sciences. On the other hand, peace bond and incarceration are not permanent solutions. They may disrupt but without fixing. We do need to make progress on programs to counter violent extremism.


At the time the peace bond was initially imposed, what crime had he committed?

If none, what is your point?

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