Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:44 PM

What They Aren't Telling You About the Move to Retake Mosul, Iraq

In a nutshell, with US backing, they plan to let the IS fighters free passage to go to Syrian to find the Saddam regime.

The source also seemed to suggest the air assistance the U.S. would provide to the Iraqi offensive would be a sham, as the coalition would only strike detached, vacated, or uninhabited buildings. According to the source, Washington’s strategy in moving these ISIS fighters is due to an attempt to counter Russia’s advancements in Syria.

God, how low can Obozo sink? He'll do anything to save what he thinks is his legacy. And, if elected, Shrillary will only continue this farce.

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Reply What They Aren't Telling You About the Move to Retake Mosul, Iraq (Original post)
sargentodiaz Oct 2016 OP
Banshee 3 Actual Oct 2016 #1
def_con5 Oct 2016 #2
BlackSabbath Oct 2016 #3
Strange Luck Oct 2016 #4

Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Tue Oct 18, 2016, 05:54 PM

1. Actually I would leave the ISIS forces an escape route out of the city

Lessens the meatgrinder of MOUT like Fallujah.

Now as the ISIS Main body is clear of the city

Carpet bomb and Strafe them ala Falaise pocket or the Kuwaiti Highway of death

Open target
no where to run
less chance of civilians casualties

Falaise was a cauldron for the Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS. Eisenhower talks later of walking for Miles and not being able to step on the ground, trodding on dead Germans and horses for miles.

By 22 August, all German forces west of the Allied lines were dead or in captivity. Historians differ in their estimates of German losses in the pocket. The majority state that from 80,000–100,000 troops were caught in the encirclement of whom 10,000–15,000 were killed, 40,000–50,000 were taken prisoner, and 20,000–50,000 escaped. Shulman, Wilmot and Ellis estimated that the remnants of 14–15 divisions were in the pocket. D'Este gave 80,000 troops trapped of whom 10,000 were killed, 50,000 captured and 20,000 escaped. Shulman gives c. 80,000 trapped, 10–15,000 killed and 45,000 captured. Wilmot recorded 100,000 trapped, 10,000 killed and 50,000 captured. Williams wrote that c. 100,000 German troops escaped. Tamelander estimated that 50,000 German troops were caught of whom 10,000 were killed and 40,000 taken prisoner, while perhaps another 50,000 escaped.

In the northern sector, German losses included 344 tanks, self-propelled guns and other light armoured vehicles, as well as 2,447 soft-skinned vehicles and 252 guns abandoned or destroyed. In the fighting around Hill 262, German losses totalled 2,000 men killed, 5,000 taken prisoner and 55 tanks, 44 guns and 152 other armoured vehicles destroyed. The 12th SS-Panzer Division had lost 94 percent of its armour, nearly all of its artillery and 70 percent of its vehicles. With close to 20,000 men and 150 tanks before the Normandy campaign, after Falaise it was reduced to 300 men and 10 tanks. Although elements of several German formations had managed to escape to the east, even these had left behind most of their equipment. After the battle, Allied investigators estimated that the Germans lost around 500 tanks and assault guns in the pocket and that little of the extricated equipment survived the retreat across the Seine.;_ylt=A0LEVxGQpwZYnqwARAtXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0azZxcWVnBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDVUkyQzJfMQRzZWMDcGl2cw--?p=Falaise+Pocket&fr=mcafee&fr2=piv-web#id=31&iurl=http%3A%2F%2F&action=close

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:19 PM

2. All true

And six months later is the battle of the Bulge

German organization was incredible.

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Tue Oct 18, 2016, 06:55 PM

3. well, with wall-to-wall 24-7 Donald Trump coverage


I'm sure there are plenty of things they aren't telling us.

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Tue Oct 18, 2016, 08:17 PM

4. That's just dumb and comes from a really ignorant website who preys on low information people

"Well, lookee here boys, this whole war is about Obama. There ain't really none of them iraqi's even in the war. It's obummer flying around in air force one herding isis like cattle over to syria. pew pew pew he shoots at em and keeps em a running. The whole 'war' is a lie, ain't even nobody in moo-sul. Git r done!"

Yep. Everything is about Obama. Whole world revolves around him, no other leaders or peoples actually exist.

I think we call that a bubble.

Step out of it once in awhile. Listen to some Iraqi radio, read some news from Peru, watch some videos from Japan. It's a big world out there

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