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Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:30 AM

What did the Jimmy Carter do?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/14/us-nuclear-sub-returns-flying-pirate-flag-sparking-speculation.html

"One of the United States' most advanced nuclear submarines returned to port in Washington state this week flying a Jolly Roger, a move steeped in maritime lore and mystery.

The images of the USS Jimmy Carter, a Seawolf-class nuclear-powered submarine passing through the Hood Canal, were posted to a Pentagon media site and Twitter page. They show the skull and bones flying beside the American flag, the Washington Post reported.

The 450-foot-long Carter is one of three in its class and designed to conduct covert sea operations, the paper reported. The sub also was filmed returning from its last patrol in April with the Jolly Roger flying from the conning tower.

The black flag emblazoned with a skull and crossbones is of significance, says Scottish journalist Ian Keddie, who posted one of the photos on Twitter. The tradition of flying it dates to 1914, during World War I, when a British submarine sank the German battle cruiser Hela, according to the historical book “Submarines at War 1939-45,” the paper reported.

When the HMS E-9 returned to port, Lt. Cmdr Max Horton raised the iconic pirate flag to signal that its crew had sunk an enemy warship. British naval fleets have honored the tradition sporadically ever since."

I suspect we may have sunk one or more North Korean subs.


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Currentsitguy Sep 2017 OP
Aldar Sep 2017 #1
Currentsitguy Sep 2017 #2
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2017 #3
Currentsitguy Sep 2017 #4
Scary Red Sep 2017 #9
_eek Sep 2017 #5
graham4anything4HC45 Sep 2017 #6
Currentsitguy Sep 2017 #7
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2017 #10
JohnPoet Sep 2017 #15
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2017 #16
quad489 Sep 2017 #11
Dinkydow Sep 2017 #17
graham4anything4HC45 Sep 2017 #18
Dinkydow Sep 2017 #19
graham4anything4HC45 Sep 2017 #20
bernt-toast Sep 2017 #8
akaConcernedCanuk Sep 2017 #12
Currentsitguy Sep 2017 #13
def_con5 Sep 2017 #14

Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:38 AM

1. I thought Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer

 

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Response to Aldar (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:42 AM

2. He was also an alumni of the Silent Service

So the name is rather appropriate.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:47 AM

3. A very short time in the nuclear navy during his 1946-53 service

and only his last year was with Nuclear Subs, before that he was Diesel boats

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:54 AM

4. I edited the OP Title

For more accuracy.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:23 PM

9. Reasonable, since the Nautilus wasn't launched until 1954...

And BTW, I worked with a guy who was in the 2nd Merchant Marine Academy class and did Navy time after graduating.

An offer was going around to get into the Nuclear Navy and he thought it might be cool. After he was accepted, thanks to his Academy grades and engineering degree, he was in for a small shock...

Rickover was in a hurry, so a master's degree in nuclear engineering was required in about six months. Every week they took a full semester course, beginning with calculus. The first week they laughed their way through it until the lowest scorer on the test got transferred to a minesweeper off Korea. The orders were already cut, just waiting for a name to be written in.

There was a stack of such orders on the desk-- one for every week of the course.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 10:59 AM

5. Those who know wouldn't be talking.

Those pasty glow in the dark squids are tight lipped and clannish.

Never met a very talkative bubblehead.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 11:28 AM

6. the single greatest President in American History for 40 years- Jan.1969-Jan.2009

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 11:50 AM

7. He was a good, well intentioned man

Who lacked the ruthlessness necessary to occupy the Oval Office.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 07:31 PM

15. You misunderstood. This thread is about a submarine, NOT DONALD TRUMP!

even though Trump DOES 'suck donkey balls, and is a white supremacist and liar'!


I guess there's an awful lot of projection that goes on over here by you right-wingers...



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Response to JohnPoet (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 07:35 PM

16. trump was attacked by a rabbit? typical LWNJ cant even remember basic history

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:00 PM

11. ...better than Clinton? Look forward to reading your explanation on why you believe Carter was that

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 08:09 PM

17. Two of the most decent and STEM-educated men ever to hold the office of the presidency

Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter.

They had a lot in common.

They both had failed presidencies.

They both had long and distinguished public service after leaving office.

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Response to Dinkydow (Reply #17)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:00 AM

18. First 30 months of Jimmy Carter were the single happiest time in America

it didn't last, but it was the single most happy time in America for the greatest number of people in America
up to that point in time.


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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #18)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 06:05 AM

19. You must have really slept through 70s.

By any measure, the US went off the rails economically. When Carter ran against Ford, his campaign gurus concocted a little calculation which Carter called the "Misery Index". This "index" was the sum of the unemployment rate, the inflation rate, and the mortgage interest rate. Throughout the 1976 campaign, Carter figuratively beat Ford over the head with this concocted index number. Unfortunately this index got worse during the dismal Carter years.

The only saving grace of the Carter years was that sanctimonious Jimmy couldn't get along with his overwhelmingly Democrat House and Senate so no lasting damage could be done.

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Response to Dinkydow (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:36 AM

20. happiness has nothing to do with economics

The first 30 months of Jimmy Carter were the single happiest moments in US history up to the election of
My President, President Obama.

of course, it didn't last, but nothing lasts forever

Misery is just the name of a Stephen King Book, who I agree, should run for Governor of Maine
as Maine has one of the single worst current governor (tied with Scott, Walker, Christie, etc.) in history, a vile disgusting deplorable person.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 11:55 AM

8. ...

The paper pointed out that the flag display could represent the success of a more covert mission.

The Carter is able to deploy unmanned submersibles and probably splice undersea cables, all while using specially outfitted thrusters to almost hover off the ocean floor.

One of the Seawolf class’s namesake subs participated in the Cold War-era operations, in which U.S. subs tapped Soviet communication lines that were underwater.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:03 PM

12. Looks pretty beat up . . .



the patches on the front of the con tower along with rusted areas -

and that crease/cracks in the side looks like something broadsided it?

Hell - most of the top area looks like a sloppy job of painted bondo . . .

what's up with that?

CC

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:12 PM

13. She's pretty old and seawater is highly corrosive

I'm not sure what the maintenance schedule is, but I know resources are pretty stretched these days. Considering she is really the only one of her kind I suspect she spends an inordinate amount of time at sea.

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 05:43 PM

14. When I talked to bubble heads

Any visible damage was always caused by a collision with a whale.

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