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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:52 AM

Man dies after dropping gun and accidentally shooting himself

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Berwick police say 28-year-old Kenneth Morris reached through the car's rear driver's side door to comfort his son when the .357-caliber gun fell from Morris' shoulder holster.

When Morris tried to grab the falling weapon, he accidentally pulled the trigger, shooting himself in the stomach.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/man-dies-accidental-gun-shot-baby-kenneth-morris-berwick-pennsylvania-a7994756.html

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Reply Man dies after dropping gun and accidentally shooting himself (Original post)
Isidore Oct 12 OP
Cold Warrior Oct 12 #1
Duke Lacrosse Oct 12 #2
Muddling Through Oct 12 #10
rahtruelies Oct 12 #3
Isidore Oct 12 #5
His Daughter Oct 12 #4
akaConcernedCanuk Oct 12 #6
His Daughter Oct 12 #7
def_con5 Oct 12 #8
Banshee 3 Actual Oct 12 #9
akaConcernedCanuk Oct 12 #11

Response to Isidore (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:59 AM

1. Ah well.

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Response to Isidore (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:03 AM

2. My dad very pointedly taught me never to try to catch a falling gun or knife.

Smart man, he was.

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Response to Duke Lacrosse (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:16 PM

10. Same goes for industrial size boxes

Of plastic kitchen wrap. Stitches in two fingers.

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Response to Isidore (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:21 AM

3. ********************* FAKE NEWS ALERT FROM AROUND THE WORLD************

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Response to Isidore (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:26 AM

4. The story as written does not make sense

As an instructor I want a lot more details on how this could have happened

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:42 PM

6. Looks like results of unsafe handling.

Not secure in the holster

Bullet in chamber

Safety off (or released accidentally?)

From another link:

A review of available video surveillance clearly identifies that Morris did in fact attempt to reach into the rear driver’s side door to comfort his crying son.

While doing so the .357 magnum revolver he was carrying began to fall out of the shoulder holster. Morris tried to catch the firearm, and while doing so he manipulated the trigger, causing the firearm to discharge one bullet into his abdomen, authorities said in a release.

http://www.yourgv.com/news/local_news/former-virgilina-man-dies-in-freak-shooting-accident-in-pennsylvania/article_8bf2e9e8-aa0c-11e7-baf6-5b81c2d57a85.html
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He is indeed fortunate to have not harmed his son -

I have no idea how one would live with being the cause of their own child's death.

Some people get real stupid with guns- handling them carelessly, either thru ignorance or some sort of show-offishness.

I recently had a friend visit who brought a loaded rifle into my home - even passed it around to another friend -I objected and he made fun of the fact that I had a loaded gun (out of sight to him and everyone else) in the house and I was just making a rule for myself.

Fuken right I am/was - it's my home. If I retrieve my loaded firearm that's cuz someone's in trouble, not cuz I wanna show it off/pass it around.

NEW house rule - NO firearms in my home other than my own - even unloaded or disassembled.

Guns ain't toys.

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:57 PM

7. Your source does have considerable more detail

However, a double action trigger pull should have been hard and long enough to prevent that. As an instructor, I am always looking for information on events like these and what not to do.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:06 PM

8. That's a real good point

Modified the trigger?

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Response to akaConcernedCanuk (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:30 PM

9. Bullet in Chamber? It's a .357 Magnum revolver, the Cylinder holds all the Bullets Usually 6

and turns to align with the Barrel when the trigger is pulled or hammer cocked back.

Revolvers also tend NOT to have safety catches in the modern era. IIRC the 1879 Reicherevolver of Germany had one and the Lebel

Other than that I agree - unsafe practices

Not a secure holster
Likely a light trigger pull and caught by the trigger as it fell

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:57 PM

11. LOL - yeah - I realized that (revolver/chamber)

when I read it after the previous response,

just decided not to bother editing/correcting it.

I think Safety in everything I do - especially living in the boonies with limited access for emergency vehicles, a semi-serious injury could end my life prematurely without immediate assistance.

Whether or not one is a promoter of gun control, I think EVERYONE should promote mandatory gun safety training, AND Qualification b4 they are ever allowed to even handle a firearm, let alone own one.

I sure ain't gonna let any of my idiot friends handle any more firearms inside my home - that's for sure.

Sometimes there is no second chance . . .

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