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Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:52 AM

A life well lived - RIP Bush 41

Whether you agree with his politics or not, we all should be inspired by his dedication to his wife and family. Our nation would be far better if more of us took his lead there. God bless him.

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Reply A life well lived - RIP Bush 41 (Original post)
GoodKraic Dec 1 OP
Frankenvoter Dec 1 #1
GoodKraic Dec 1 #2
Frankenvoter Dec 1 #5
GoodKraic Dec 1 #10
Boadicea Dec 1 #3
FreeWheelBurning Dec 1 #4
Frankenvoter Dec 1 #6
FreeWheelBurning Dec 1 #7
Frankenvoter Dec 1 #8
FreeWheelBurning Dec 1 #11
Frankenvoter Dec 1 #12
FreeWheelBurning Dec 1 #14
Frankenvoter Dec 1 #16
rampartb Dec 1 #9
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 1 #15
freedumb2003 Dec 1 #20
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 1 #21
freedumb2003 Dec 1 #24
Currentsitguy Dec 5 #57
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 1 #13
TendiesForBreakfast Dec 1 #26
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2 #32
TendiesForBreakfast Dec 2 #33
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2 #35
TendiesForBreakfast Dec 2 #36
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2 #37
TendiesForBreakfast Dec 2 #38
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2 #39
Frankenvoter Dec 2 #46
oflguy Dec 2 #42
Frankenvoter Dec 2 #47
oflguy Dec 2 #49
Frankenvoter Dec 3 #51
oflguy Dec 3 #52
Frankenvoter Dec 3 #53
oflguy Dec 3 #54
Badsamm Dec 1 #17
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 1 #18
FreeWheelBurning Dec 1 #28
rahtruelies Dec 1 #19
specs Dec 1 #22
GoodKraic Dec 1 #23
specs Dec 1 #25
GoodKraic Dec 1 #29
specs Dec 2 #41
GoodKraic Dec 2 #48
FreeWheelBurning Dec 1 #27
specs Dec 2 #40
FreeWheelBurning Dec 2 #43
specs Dec 2 #44
FreeWheelBurning Dec 2 #45
Salaam Dec 1 #30
GoodKraic Dec 1 #31
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2 #34
Jardinier Dec 3 #50
GoodKraic Dec 3 #55
Jardinier Dec 4 #56

Response to GoodKraic (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:11 AM

1. The scumbag gave us a new type of warfare, Vietnam 2.0

He went into Gulf war 1 saying this wont be another Vietnam, that it wasn't, but it wasn't unconditional surrender either.

The world has gotten used to the Bush model of us fighting war whether him or his son where we go in with one hand tied behind our backs always, the other hand is carrying both a rules of engagement and a bottle of water for them, weapons are always on safe and illegal kills WILL be prosecuted, multiple sites will be off limits giving the enemy plenty of space to stash weaponry, quagmire is the word of the day and meanwhile people are still dying in Afghanistan.

That is partially Trumps fault to be sure, he's CIC and should have done something other than the status quo but our military industrial complex likes quagmires, they love em, and thanks to the model we run which is pin prick strikes designed to make the cameras happy and not cause too much collateral damage, because the second, and I'm talking a fraction of a micro second, the very smallest movement of the atomic clock between when a bomb is launched and some civilian somewhere suffers the effects of it, well, we just gotta stop now, and have an in depth review with generals hauled before congress, blah blah blah.

We are at a point where the Nazis would have to have been left in power were WW2 running today, because D-Day would never have been allowed, because the cameras wouldn't have allowed it and pressures from all around being put on people who kill first, ask questions later.

That is the only model to follow, enemies around the world learn from it, they know if they even try it they get dead in quick order along with masses of thier populace, and so they dont.

But because of the Bush twins, and Vietnam previously, the world knows they can kick us and get away with it, and even if we DO "launch holy hell on them" (as if) it's gonna be nothing but a couple of M-80's and then years and years of American taxpayer cash building roads and bridges for them not leaving them in the rubble to eat thier own cannibalisticly and think about what they did to cause it all.

IDK where Bush sr is right now and I dont want to speculate but he was an illuminati NWO'r who set a precedent for fighting that is gonna screw us long term.

Fuck him.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:17 AM

2. How is your relationship with your wife and family?

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:36 AM

5. OK, you're right, the point of the post, etc.

I dont have a wife and kids, I was just on a date yesterday explaining to her I'm sure it's been selfishness on my part as much as anything I tried to lay on her to save face, refferencing any of the girls I've been with who might have wanted to go that route when I wasn't into it, I just wanted the good times, man.

And so in that yes, we need more monogamous lifetime relationships, and he was an excellent model of that.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:19 AM

10. Thank you for recognizing my point.

All the best to you in your journey.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:21 AM

3. Not even five minutes

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:35 AM

4. What are you talking about?

The first Gulf War was a complete success as far as wars go. We went in, removed Iraq from Kuwait, went home. This country would be far better off today if his son had followed his example.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:38 AM

6. Swarzkopf wanted to go all the way to Baghdad and Bush wouldn't let him

I equate that with Patton wanting to take Russia after WW2, he could have, and we should have.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:44 AM

7. You may be right but that has nothing to do with the point I made

Bush did not get the US into any "Vietnam" style protracted wars or nation building efforts.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:52 AM

8. Unconditional surrender is not in our vision anymore

Its all about playing to the cameras, and what people willbe seeing tonight at dinner time, thank you Bush twins and our MSM.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:24 AM

11. You win the prize for dumb post of the day. A great accomplishment considering the time.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:39 AM

12. How so?

How did the Japanese surrender? Why did we not use that model with our current enemies who are just as fanatical?

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:46 AM

14. You are equating the way the two Bushs handled war

GHB Bush set an objective in Iraq, accomplished it and got out once the objective of booting the Iraqis out of Kuwait was met. He didn't allow the US to get bogged down in asymetrical warfare in Iraq and nation building.

Compare that to his son. He took us into Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban and get Bin Laden. Bin Laden is dead and the Taliban is not in power. The US is still there in a protracted battle and nation building activities.

The goal in Iraq was to depose Saddam. Saddam is long gone but we are still there.

The differences between how the two of them conducted their wars is night and day but you insist on calling them the Bush twins in this regard.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:00 AM

16. The bush twins from the standpoint of TV war VS. something Eisenhower would recognize

Everything must be done to placate the "news", they need blacked out of the proceedings.

They are free to go to the zone and get those pictures all they want, but at risk to their own lives and not imbedded with our troops giving away positions.

The picture of the girl in Vietnam running after having been burned with napalm changed it all and I dont totally fault the bush twins for (attempting) to try and keep the "news" happy but the answer is they will never be happy, they are anti american traitorous scum and their opinion doesnt matter.

The only one that does matter is the enemy and when they decide to surrender, unconditionally.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:53 AM

9. lolololol

the red army had defeated the mightiest army of its era, had more and better tanks, inderground cities and factories producung at full ahead.

patton could never have taken an anglo american army to moscow in 1945, even if churchill had agreed. maybe he could reach stalingrad by winter , with the survivors paddling back across the channel by spring.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:46 AM

15. more and better tanks? then why in Korea did every T-34/85 get raped by the M4A3(76)W

The RKKA was fed by the USA, Got its rail stock from the USA, over 75% of it's trucks from the USA, ALL of its waterproof field telephone line from the USA

Those factories were managed by US and UK managers sent to maximise output

AND we had the Bomb the Soviets did not in 1945

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Response to rampartb (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:40 PM

20. Point of clarification: the Russian Winter defeated the German Army

It is hard to say if the Americans would have fared better.

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Response to freedumb2003 (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:55 PM

21. A US Army with Winter campaigns already under its belt in Italy and NW europe, the Aleutians?

Which had special Winter rations

Which issued a variety of cold weather gear from simple Overcoats to Mackinaws, Ski Parkas in 3 versions, Winter combat jackets and trousers, Mountain jackets and trousers



with specialized snow vehicles like the M29 Weasel

And the Industrial base to provide these items anywhere on the planets surface?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:39 PM

24. I think the specialized vehicles would make a big difference

I read about the German campaign into Russia and they had a HUGE problem with tank treads getting stuck in the mud, then the whole mess freezing up overnight.

Same for boots and mobile artillery.

I don't know much about the American winter campaigns. But it would NOT have been easy.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 5, 2018, 11:18 AM

57. Minor historic correction

Patton actually wanted to keep the Wehrmacht armed as an organized army under American command and use our combined forces to invade the USSR.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:42 AM

13. The "Scumbag" was a Braver man than YOU ever will be

Got news for you Clausewitless, we ALWAYS had Rules of Engagement even in WW2

Its why the 8th, 9th, 12th, 15th USAAF's took so many casualties to precision bomb military targets in Germany over the easy RAF style of just bomb the entire city and screw the civilians.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:33 PM

26. Oh, this shit again with you.

Service in war doesn't earn you a lifetime immunity to criticism or even hatred for the things you do afterwards.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:12 AM

32. Bush was an Honorable man MUCH MUCH more than trump EVER will fucking be

Y'all need to stop this cult like worship of trump

Hes a draft dodging fucktard who was too fucking vain to visit our Dead because it was raining. Had Obama done that you would still be howling 30 years from now about it.

But because draftdodger donnie did it you worship his failure to honor our fallen

This AGain your goddamned right. I will defend the man for his lessers

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:21 AM

33. Timothy McVeigh was a decorated Gulf War combat veteran.

Now stick to your standard pattern of behavior and excuse the Oklahoma City bombing, you medal-licking fucktard.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:32 AM

35. Seriously this is the most pig ignorant thing you ever posted McVeighBush?

And thats saying something considering how trumptard you are

If donnie shit on the floor you'd worship it like the shroud of turin

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #35)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:47 AM

36. Okay, so you're the dumbass who missed me railing over his proposed bump stock ban,

his friendliness with Saudi Arabia, and his interest in expanding defamation laws.

You must have missed it while you were busy screeching about how orange man had bone spurs.

Bush was a CIA bitch and destroyed American manufacturing with NAFTA, and McCain had a hard-on for getting us involved in the most disastrous wars this country has ever been involved in, but because they put on the uniform half a century ago, you've determined they're completely immune from people being pissed off at them for those reasons.

But fine, it was probably unfair to compare these people to McVeigh. He didn't send nearly as many Americans to their deaths as McCain and the other neocon fuckwads did in Iraq.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:54 AM

37. Most disastrous war ? here I was thinking that was WW2 where we had 406,000 Killed

Keep worshiping the orange turd like he was a god

Moonies have nothing on trumptards

Face it Donnie is a coward piece of shit too vain and too lazy to visit our dead on Veterans day

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:00 AM

38. Holy shit, did I ever say he was right to not visit Arlington?

No, I didn't.

You have some balls to claim to be the fucking champion of veterans and the fallen while sucking Songbird McCain's dick at every opportunity.

Did you actually serve, or are you just one of those stolen valor faggots who pretends to be a veteran by copy/pasting military history off Wikipedia?

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 02:10 AM

39. Ahh the trumptards lost it, Sad when weasels belittle ACTUAL Heros like McCain and Bush for

the yellow bellied coward in chief trump who is frightened of rain.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 11:32 AM

46. I understand that, I know firebombing Dresden wasn't needed, it wasdone as pure payback by the brits

It serves as a way to distinguish when have you gone too far in the payback area to an enemy as well as different approaches to fighting, we wouldn't have done it.

But the ROE have gotten increasingly tighter over the years to favor the enemy because we've established ourselves as the calm voice in the room, even when it's spraying 5.56mm at you.

And so my sarcastically saying we have one hand tied behind the back with a ROE in the other (leaves very little room for a weapon dontcha say?) is the model we follow these days, we fight to win the approval of the press, not kill the enemy.

We fight that way these days thanks to the Bush twins.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:41 AM

42. Let me give you a little background on the decision to call off the dogs on Iraq

In a TV interview with General Colin Powell, who was the joint Chief of Staff for the military, Powell said he met with Bush during the retreat of Iraq. The war had been a total route and a decision had to be made what to do. Powell informed Bush that the UN coalition that had been put together had been authorized to extract Iraq from Kuwait, but not to invade Iraq. He told Bush that the coalition could fall apart, since some coalition Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, where all coalition aircraft were being fueled (for free by the way) could very possibly turn against us if we Went into Baghdad.

In light of Powell's opinion, Bush decided to cease the slaughter. The UN objective and authorization to the coalition was complete.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #42)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 11:34 AM

47. I'm pretty sure it was the highway of death that changed his mind

The press had thier pictures to run with, we were the big meanies, and we cant have that.

"They,ve suffered enough, read my lips" Bush sr. was heard to say, and he stopped early, again, to win the approval of the press, not to kill and vanquish the enemy.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #47)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 06:41 PM

49. You obviously didn't read my post

Tell us more about "read my lips," please.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #42)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 03:30 AM

51. I read your post, he took the word of Powell not to go to Baghdad

AFTER seeing the highway of death and deciding they had suffered enough.

Either way it was a miscalculation.....oh wait a minute, it wasn't it was exactly what the Bush twins like, a set up for never ending war, Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

Never go far enough to finish it, never give our troops enough to be fully armed, skew the rules of engagement to favor the enemy, leave 90% of targets off limits so they can store ammo and other items there, declare "mission accomplished" before the dust has settled, you know, a BUSH war, a never ending quagmire designed to balloon the pockets of the M/I complex and never actually ever finish anything.

You know, just like Afghanistan.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #51)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 03:55 AM

52. If you read my post, it didn't sink in

You don't know if it was a miscalculation. Bush was operating under the authorization of a UN Resolution that was granted to him by some countries that may have turned on him if he exceeded the stated goal of extracting Saddam from Kuwait. Bush DID "Finish it," but you just want to bash him.

There are people that find fault with everything politicians do that they don't like. Looks like you are one of them.

I'm not a big fan of either Bush, and I'm especially not a fan of Powell, but I can understand Powell's logic.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 04:05 AM

53. I understand completely he finished what was outlined and that the coalition might have fallen apart

What would they have done about it? What would the world have done had Patton taken Russia? Nothing.

I also understand much better now what I didn't at the time, when Saddam said this would be the mother of all wars he was talking as in birthing a whole lot more down the road which it did.

The very act of even going in started that process, it didn't matter where we stopped, our troops on Saudi soil started all that we have today and the only thing those people respect is force.

We didnt give that to them, we gave them patty cakes and mother may I, and then slinked on outof there as soon as we were ordered to, the muslim world knows we are nancy boys when it comes to fighting, we wont go there, wherever "there" is, whether taking ground, killing mass amounts of people, or just getting as dirty and vicious as they are.

All those wars have proven to them is that we talk shit and dont back it up, we poke bee hives with sticks and then walk away, Thank you, Bush Twins for our new model of war fighting, quagmires, mother may I, and pretty please.

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Response to Frankenvoter (Reply #53)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 04:22 AM

54. What would they have done about it?

You and I will never know.

You are getting two different wars confused with each other. When Saddam said "This is going to be the mother of all wars," he wound up dead.

But then, Bush Jr. didn't bother to get the Arab world's permission to invade Iraq, or to eliminate Saddam. He just did it, even though he did it because Saddam had thumbed his nose at UN inspectors and the world.

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Response to GoodKraic (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:36 AM

17. I was thinking of following his lead, but we have run out of Middle East countries to bomb

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:41 AM

18. ''I was thinking of following his lead'' You could not possibly. He had class

You've nothing

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:40 PM

28. BS. You haven't thought in a long time

But that's OK. At least we now know you are nothing more than a modern day Chamberain.

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Response to GoodKraic (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:55 AM

19. amoral familism

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Response to GoodKraic (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:57 PM

22. Fuck that traitorous Globalist bastard ;)

It does not take much more than having some common decency to take care of your family and those that are close to you. However, it takes a special kind of evil to use that as a means to save being criticized.

So fuck the Regressive leftards named the Bush family, cannot wait for the rest of their sorry asses to pass away too. This planet will be a better place without their evil ideology and attempts to hijack the Conservative movement to the dark side.

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Response to specs (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:36 PM

23. If you dont see that he did more than take care

of his wife and family than you haven’t paid attention.

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 02:13 PM

25. Oh I did, see the mention of being a globalist bastard and a traitor to this country and its people.

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Response to specs (Reply #25)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:34 PM

29. Way to stay classy

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #29)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:08 AM

41. There is nothing classy about the Bush family, they are no better than Hillary and Obama.

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Response to specs (Reply #41)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:16 PM

48. You are extraordinarily wrong and a great example

of the incredible decisiveness in the country.

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Response to specs (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:38 PM

27. Another jackass heard from

Do us a favor and follow him to the grave.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:07 AM

40. lol @ the NPC

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Response to specs (Reply #40)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 09:51 AM

43. You're so edgy

Has there been a rash of people telling you to die? If not then your use of NPC was out of context. If you want to pretend to be up to speed with newer nomenclature you should at least take the time to learn the term's defnition and how it is properly used.

If a lot of people have been tellin you to die, I apoligize. Not for what they are saying but for assuming you didn't know how to use the term.

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Response to FreeWheelBurning (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:44 AM

44. You gave the standard NPC talking point for anyone not kissing the globalist ass of Bush :)

lol @ the NPC

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Response to specs (Reply #44)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 10:49 AM

45. You repeat yourself

And it was just as moronic the 2nd time around as it was the 1st.

Maybe if you say it 5 more times it will come true.

Just kidding. It will always be moronic. You hit your ceiling.

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Response to GoodKraic (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:07 PM

30. He covered up for Reagan's treason.

Remember the Willie Horton ad?

Remember voodoo economics?

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Response to Salaam (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:18 PM

31. Hows your relationship with your wife and family?

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Response to Salaam (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 2, 2018, 01:28 AM

34. The Willie Horton turnstile ad which didn't show his race?

Willie Horton Stabbed a 17 year old kid 19 times (Joseph Fournier) after robbing him thats why he got life in the first place

When that motherfucker Dukakis let him out he fled to maryland where he robbed and Raped and got into a shootout with police


Thats your hero?

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Response to GoodKraic (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 12:22 AM

50. He was a very lucky/fortunate man.

Except for his daughter dying so young, he was very lucky.

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #50)

Mon Dec 3, 2018, 10:48 PM

55. I dont know about you but Im also a very lucky man.

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:17 AM

56. I've had some bad luck in my life.

But I am far more fortunate than most.

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