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Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:21 PM

Italy and Poland discuss UNITING to form an anti-EU alliance and lead a 'European spring' to replace

Italy and Poland discuss UNITING to form an anti-EU alliance and lead a 'European spring' to replace the 'French-German axis'

Italy and Poland's nationalist leaders seek to overthrow the Brussels elite in May
Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini met Polish officials on Wednesday
Salvini called for the overthrow of the 'French-German axis' in a populist spring
He told his allies in Poland they would lead 'a European Spring' - a new energy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6572309/Italy-Poland-discuss-UNITING-form-anti-EU-alliance-ahead-European-elections.html

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Reply Italy and Poland discuss UNITING to form an anti-EU alliance and lead a 'European spring' to replace (Original post)
Troll2 Jan 9 OP
Fiendish Thingy-BC Jan 9 #1
Currentsitguy Jan 9 #2
Cold Warrior Jan 9 #3
Red Bull Jan 9 #4
Cold Warrior Jan 9 #5
freedumb2003 Jan 9 #6

Response to Troll2 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:42 PM

1. Everythings going according to Putins master plan nt

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Response to Fiendish Thingy-BC (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:52 PM

2. How so?

At the moment Germany has managed to achieve what they couldn't in two world wars, namely the complete domination and control of Europe. I cannot see that as a good thing.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy-BC (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 01:55 PM

3. While Putin may be pleased at these developments, it is the arrogance of the French and Germans

that is driving it. Political union and the usurpation of national sovereignty are not why most nations joined the EU. The U.K. threw the first spanner Ito Germany’s dream of a Fourth Reich, this one enforced through economics, not force. With Italy now effectively joining forces with the Visegrad Group, the balance of power has significantly shifted. Hopefully, it will bring about a course correction in which they revert to a looser confederation of allies and trading partners, that share intelligence and other common policies.

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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:11 PM

4. The migration issue

And the abdication of sovereignty to Brussles is what is driving this issue. To make the EU work it will have to go back to independent countries and only be a trade deal.

No travelling between countries without a passport no citizenship of all and each country needs to pursue their own national interests and not that of what Germany and France decide through Brussels.

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Response to Red Bull (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 02:21 PM

5. The migration issue simply brought the sovereignty issue into focus

But the Euro was a critical driver as well. The various Greek crises demonstrated the power Germany was able to wield, as well as the (prohibited) advantage of being able to leave the monetary union.

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Response to Red Bull (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 03:44 PM

6. The guy(?) you are talking to pretends to be from outside the USA

 

In fact he is probably from Pacoima.

I would not waste my time if I as you.

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