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Fri Jun 28, 2019, 03:21 PM

This would not happen in Florida. ...

A man used a revolver in self defense and was charged with criminal possession of the weapon as he hadn’t registered it.

Registration of firearms in Florida is technically illegal.

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The 2018 Florida Statutes

790.335 Prohibition of registration of firearms; electronic records.—
(1) LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AND INTENT.—
(a) The Legislature finds and declares that:
1. The right of individuals to keep and bear arms is guaranteed under both the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and s. 8, Art. I of the State Constitution.
2. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a law enforcement tool and can become an instrument for profiling, harassing, or abusing law-abiding citizens based on their choice to own a firearm and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution. Further, such a list, record, or registry has the potential to fall into the wrong hands and become a shopping list for thieves.
3. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a tool for fighting terrorism, but rather is an instrument that can be used as a means to profile innocent citizens and to harass and abuse American citizens based solely on their choice to own firearms and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution.
4. Law-abiding firearm owners whose names have been illegally recorded in a list, record, or registry are entitled to redress.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=790+335&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.335.html

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Lawyer: CNY homeowner who killed 2 ‘was scared to death, thought he was going to die’
Updated May 29, 2019; Posted May 29, 2019

DEERFIELD, NY - Ronald Stolarczyk was in his kitchen when he heard people talking from what seemed to be inside his attached garage, Stolarcyk’s lawyer told Syracuse.com | The Post Standard Wednesday.

At first, the 64-year-old Oneida County man remained quiet to see if they would go away, said his lawyer, Mark Wolber. But then the homeowner heard them climbing up the stairs from the garage to his kitchen, the lawyer said.

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On Tuesday, Stolarczyk picked up the handgun that was on the kitchen counter and fired three to four shots at the intruders, Wolber said. The two fell down the stairs to the bottom, he said.

Stolarczyk went down the stairs and saw one lying on the ground, and the other person had run out, Wolber said. He then called 911, he said.

The two intruders he shot and killed have been identified as Patricia Anne Talerico, 57, and Nicholas A. Talerico, 27, of Utica, according to New York State Police. The aunt and nephew were burglarizing the home at 6110 Walker Road in Deerfield when they were shot by the homeowner, police said.

Stolarczyk lived in the home with his parents, but they have both died, Wolber said. His dad owned the handgun, and Stolarczyk said he recently discovered it in the home and never registered it himself, he said.

Stolarczyk, 64, has been charged with criminal possession of a firearm, a Class E felony, police said.
https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2019/05/lawyer-cny-homeowner-who-killed-2-was-scared-to-death-thought-he-was-going-to-die.html



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Response to batcat (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 03:31 PM

1. They posted his fucking address?

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:34 PM

5. I'm not going to look for it right now but I think the courts held that gun registration was public

information but this was years ago.

Some local newspaper was listing registered gun owners in their community.

Not sure what become of it, however.

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:53 PM

11. But his gun is not registered. Nt

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Response to batcat (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 03:32 PM

2. I'd say it's Unconstitutional

You can't register a Constitutional Right.

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Response to batcat (Original post)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 03:34 PM

3. Gun registration should be illegal.

I lived in NY for several years and never got a pistol permit because I would never register a gun. But I’d much rather fight the legal fight over a piece of paper than have my family harmed.

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:29 PM

4. I like living in Florida for several reasons. ...

Among those reasons is the fact that a concealed weapons permit is reasonably priced (the initial license costs $102 and renewal $50 and both are good for seven years.) A Florida concealed weapons permit allows you to carry other concealed weapons such as knives in Florida. There is no waiting period for a firearm purchase if you have a concealed weapons permit.

There is no firearm registration required which means no registration fees. You are not required to have a permit to own a firearm (again no fees). You can carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle without a license if it is securely encased.

The “Stand Your Ground” law seems extremely reasonable to me.

And of course there is no state income tax. The weather is great once you adapt to the summer heat. The roads are in good condition.

Of course Florida does get hit by hurricanes. In half a century of living here I have been on the edges of a major hurricane once and went through a force one hurricane one time. I have seen a lot of tropical storms but they are normally just a lot of rain.

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Response to batcat (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:56 PM

6. I agree to a point. I would have stopped before "there is no state income tax"...

while that is true, they eat you up in property tax... especially if you don't live there.

I know... I live in Alabama but own property in Florida.

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Response to D26-15 (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:33 PM

7. If you live in Florida you can get a homestead exemption. ...

That helps a lot.

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Response to batcat (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:42 PM

8. Yes, plus no tax on most groceries and medicines... if you live there.

The nice part is that the price of property, if you own in the right place, is going up so fast that it offsets.

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Response to batcat (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:18 PM

9. If you choose to live in one of the

"Democratic Socialist States of America" you tacitly agree to live under Socialist rule. I have zero sympathy for the sufferers of the tyranny that inevitally results.

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Response to Lowrider1984 (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

10. If I lived in one of those states I would simply pack up and move. (n/t)

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Response to batcat (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 01:00 PM

12. Damned right, Patriot!

If you stay, you pay!

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Response to Lowrider1984 (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 01:04 PM

13. Plus much of the money you pay in those states is wasted by corrupt politicians. (n/t)

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Response to batcat (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 01:07 PM

14. Probably MOST of it.

But, they care!

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Response to Lowrider1984 (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 03:53 PM

15. Yet I did not. I didnt follow their law.

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Response to GoodKraic (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:14 PM

16. Heh-heh

That is another way to cope!

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