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Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:30 PM

Debka: Urgent Consultations in Washington, Moscow on Reported US-Russian Submarines in Firefight

NOTE: DEBKA has been proven unreliable in the past but at times they do get things right.

Jul 2, 2019 @ 22:24 Diane Shalem

First reports reaching DEBKAfile’s military sources say that a US submarine intercepted a Russian nuclear sub in American waters opposite Alaska. The Russian sub escorting the nuclear submarine responded with a Balkan 2000 torpedo and scuttled the US vessel. Urgent consultations in both the White House and the Kremlin were taking place on Tuesday night. US Vice President Mike Pence called off an appearance in New Hampshire after being recalled to Washington for a conference called by President Donald Trump without explanation.

Russian President Vladimir Putin cancelled an engagement and headed for the Kremlin to confer with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and military chiefs, after learning that 14 submariners died in a fire that broke out on a nuclear-powered “experimental submarine in Russian waters.” This account carried in Russian media varies in most respects from the first reports reaching this site and may refer to a separate incident. They report between 14 and 17 members of an AS-12 nuclear powered submarine died of poisonous fumes caused by a fire aboard the vessel. The submarine was described as experimental and unarmed but often used in spy missions. It is unclear how many of the 25 crew survived. Local media suggest four or five are receiving treatment in Severomorsk’s military hospital for poisoning and concussion injuries. Another news account said the majority of the officers died in or on their way to hospital. These reports do not cite the cause of the fire.

https://www.debka.com/mivzak/urgent-consultations-in-washington-moscow-on-reported-us-russian-submarines-in-firefight/

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Reply Debka: Urgent Consultations in Washington, Moscow on Reported US-Russian Submarines in Firefight (Original post)
RCW2014 Jul 2019 OP
Badsamm Jul 2019 #1
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 2019 #11
Lira Jul 2019 #18
imwithfred Jul 2019 #2
Badsamm Jul 2019 #3
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 2019 #12
jimiray Jul 2019 #4
wonderwarthog Jul 2019 #5
RCW2014 Jul 2019 #6
wonderwarthog Jul 2019 #8
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 2019 #7
wonderwarthog Jul 2019 #9
Aquila Jul 2019 #14
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 2019 #17
foia Jul 2019 #10
def_con5 Jul 2019 #13
Badsamm Jul 2019 #15
def_con5 Jul 2019 #16
Steelydamned Jul 2019 #19

Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:37 PM

1. No bueno if true

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:30 PM

11. Its Horseshit, first off why would an experimental sub not be escorted by Surface units during tests

Secondly those American Submariners have family and friends, How you going to hide them disappearing like that.

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 03:39 PM

2. ".....DEBKA has been proven unreliable in the past but at times they do get things right....."

And of course you're pressing those rosary beads hoping it's true.

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:35 PM

12. Another idiot heard from, He doesnt know how a fire can happen aboard a sub? REALLY?

I can think of dozens of reasons and causes for a fire, all of them having nothing to do with the "Enemy"

Even a Holocaust Denying White Supremacist Convicted felon like Hal Turner could comprehend a sub can easily have a fire

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:09 PM

4. This could be serious shit...

If true

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:22 PM

5. Thanks for the info



We shall see if it is accurate.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:27 PM

6. Something going on and it gets more curious as the hours click by without an explanation. eom

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:16 PM

8. Yes


Very strange.

Ready to head for the fallout shelter.


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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 04:57 PM

7. RCW Masturbation fantasy- russians sink US Sub ohhh hes almost there...

add some shirtless Vlad

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:17 PM

9. I would expect



swift retaliation.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:43 PM

14. Stop with the projection already



"Careful with that left hand, Pussy Grabber!"

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Response to Aquila (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:55 PM

17. Are You dehydrated? need a sports drink to replenish Electrolytes?

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:22 PM

10. Don't you think Trump, not just Pence, would be in The White House

if Russia had scuttled a US vessel?

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Response to foia (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:41 PM

13. scuttled is a give away

Scuttling means to sink your own vessel.

scut·tle3
/ˈskədl/
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verb
verb: scuttle; 3rd person present: scuttles; past tense: scuttled; past participle: scuttled; gerund or present participle: scuttling
1.
sink (one's own ship) deliberately by holing it or opening its seacocks to let water in.
deliberately cause (a scheme) to fail.
"some of the stockholders are threatening to scuttle the deal"

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:47 PM

15. What are your thoughts? Im surprised MSM has followed up

On Pence’s return flight to DC

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 05:50 PM

16. BS and more BS

Looks like a sub caught fire, it happens I know. Scary as hell. No idea what's up with Pence.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 2, 2019, 08:21 PM

19. I was just coming...

...here to say just that. I suspect the writer doesn't understand the distinction.

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