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Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:14 AM

Military Eyes 16-Year-Olds as Ranks and Candidates Dwindle (Just Can't Make This Stuff Up)

By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Thursday, July 18, 2019

The best way to fix the U.S. armed forces’ recruiting challenges may involve dipping further into the nation’s high schools.

As the Army, Navy and other services contend with a thriving economy and a directive to expand their ranks, there is a growing debate over whether the military should consider lowering the minimum enlistment age from 17 to 16. More than a dozen countries, including the United Kingdom, already have adopted the policy.

Critics say the idea is deeply flawed and presents a host of societal problems, but supporters argue that the Pentagon needs to think outside the box if it wants to continually overcome one of the toughest recruiting environments in decades.

Neither the military nor lawmakers have given any indication that they are entertaining the idea, but some analysts say that opening the ranks to younger Americans could provide unique benefits and may be the kind of fundamental overhaul the recruiting system needs for the 21st century.

“For one, many of the factors that disqualify older youths from joining — like criminal records — are not as present in younger teens,” said Shane McCarthy, chief marketing officer of Sandboxx, a leading technology platform that connects military members stationed abroad with families and friends at home. Mr. McCarthy also has advised military commands on how to better target recruits.

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/18/military-recruiting-woes-spur-debate-over-enlistme/

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Reply Military Eyes 16-Year-Olds as Ranks and Candidates Dwindle (Just Can't Make This Stuff Up) (Original post)
RCW2014 Jul 20 OP
oldenuff35 Jul 20 #1
RCW2014 Jul 20 #4
oldenuff35 Jul 20 #5
quad489 Jul 20 #12
BigKahunna2.0 Jul 20 #20
Squeek Jul 20 #23
oflguy Jul 20 #24
quad489 Jul 20 #25
Squeek Jul 22 #31
quad489 Jul 22 #35
quad489 Jul 22 #36
oldenuff35 Jul 21 #29
Model10RB Jul 20 #16
Lira Jul 20 #26
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 20 #2
Da Mannn Jul 20 #3
RCW2014 Jul 20 #6
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 20 #7
Oldgeezer Jul 20 #8
Model10RB Jul 20 #17
Badsamm Jul 20 #9
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 20 #14
msv Jul 20 #21
quad489 Jul 20 #22
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 22 #34
Dumper Jul 20 #10
Model10RB Jul 20 #18
Gunslinger201 Jul 20 #11
uncledad Jul 20 #13
Gunslinger201 Jul 20 #15
msv Jul 20 #19
Banshee 3 Actual Jul 22 #37
Grumpy Pickle Jul 20 #27
RCW2014 Jul 20 #28
Dumper Jul 22 #30
Grumpy Pickle Jul 22 #33
Badsamm Jul 22 #32

Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:24 AM

1. Give me a break, I attended basic training between my junior and senior year of high school.

When I graduated I had a job, a career, attended more training and was on the job by Christmas.

That check shows up in my bank account every month. I've never been sorry about my military career.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:28 AM

4. Finally graduating at the age of 22 then, eh? Otherwise, I call bullshit on your claim. eom

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:31 AM

5. nope they were allowing 17 year olds to enlist at that time with parental consent.

vietnam was almost over and getting new blood was not easy.

Maybe you need some a decade or two of military experience to get a grasp on the reality of the military thing.

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:14 AM

12. ''Finally graduating at the age of 22''...why are you such a dickhead towards those who served?

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Response to quad489 (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:27 AM

20. Ignore the dickhead, he's just a know nothing who's popping off again...

Thanks to all who have served....

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Response to quad489 (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:57 AM

23. You might want to ask

why that piece of orange garbage in the WH has been such a DICKHEAD toward those who have served.

Like the Gold Star family he had a dispute with a couple of years ago.

Like insulting John McCain by saying he prefers people who don't get captured

Like putting on a disgusting display for July 4th when all that money could have provided housing for homeless veterans.


Ask YOUR "president" before calling out someone who doesn't even have the power to change anything

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Response to Squeek (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

24. Trump appreciates the military

Unlike that piece of brown garbage that never belonged in the WH that made a habit of giving billions of our tax dollars to his fellow Muslims.

I'd call him a traitor but he has never been loyal to this country.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:55 PM

25. WTF does Trump have to do w/this thread topic? Why are YOU always deflecting to Trump???????????????

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Response to quad489 (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 11:53 AM

31. You don't get away with

asking someone why he's being a dickhead toward the military without being confronted with the blatantly dickhead acts of the fuckwad in chief

Some here keep pointing fingers at other members or at political figures who are no longer relevant , accusing them of all manner of disgusting/disgraceful things while their cult hero in the WH does the same, or worse. They ignore it. They focus on what others are doing and let tRump get away with whatever.


So how come I never see you calling out one of your OWN for always throwing Obama or HILLLAAAARRRRYYYYY into just about every topic where someone has slammed tRump?

Don't tell someone they're being a dickhead toward the military when the orange baboon has been a BIGGER dickhead.

You know how many homeless veterans could have been helped with the money that fool spent on his fucking dog and pony show? That is the truth.






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Response to Squeek (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 01:07 PM

35. Interesting how YOU never gave a shit about homeless veterans under Obama...........

"You know how many homeless veterans could have been helped with the money that fool spent on his fucking dog and pony show? That is the truth."

More than 1,200 homeless veterans living on Los Angeles streets still need housing (Jan. 5, 2017)

"More than 1,200 veterans are living on Los Angeles streets, thwarting Mayor Eric Garcetti’s repeated pledges to end the city’s soaring rates of veteran homelessness, officials said Thursday.

Faced with the highest number of homeless veterans of any city in the nation, Garcetti had promised to find housing for every homeless resident who served in the military, first by the end of 2015 and then by last summer.

An unprecedented infusion of federal rent vouchers and services has helped place more than 8,000 veterans in the city of Los Angeles in homes since January 2014. Still, four to five service members, including those returning from troop drawdowns overseas, land on L.A. streets each day, Garcetti said."

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-homeless-vets-20170105-story.html

...or maybe everyone here missed all your threads displaying your outrage towards Obama for allowing this to happen'

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Response to Squeek (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 01:13 PM

36. Same reason I don't expect YOU to call out one of your OWN for always deflecting to Trump whenever..

"So how come I never see you calling out one of your OWN for always throwing Obama or HILLLAAAARRRRYYYYY into just about every topic where someone has slammed tRump?"

...points out how Obama is a fuck up.

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Response to quad489 (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:49 PM

29. I laugh when I realize that liberals tax dollars also fund my retirement direct deposits.

And it happens each and every month.

I also enjoy the thoughts that liberal taxes helped me through college with my GI bill benefits.

Hell, some of those liberal taxes even helped subsidize VA and Cal VET loans on property that eventually made me a lot of money.

Please keep paying your taxes. There are conservative troops out there getting out or retiring who will use your tax money for their housing security and to create a future for themselves in our capitalist country.

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:16 AM

16. What a Dick. I guess you don't know that 17 y/o's can swear in, attend drill, and ship at 18 to BCT.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 06:52 PM

26. My brother

went into the U.S. Navy at 16 with parental consent. He spent 22 years in the service and it was the making of him. Led to a great private sector career and he hadn't yet turned 40.

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:25 AM

2. At 16 a russian can serve so you fucked your op again

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:28 AM

3. Lets be fair, analysts are the ONLY ones saying this...not the military.

frankly I doubt minors would be sent into harms way unless the nation was in a WWII style life and death struggle.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:31 AM

6. I think your GOP should put this in the "Platform plank" in the run-up to the GOP Convention next

year. You with me on this?

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 01:54 AM

7. Your russian army allows 16 year olds right now

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 02:01 AM

8. It's NOT a DoD plan Putiboi....I read your article...You shold have....

"Neither the military nor lawmakers have given any indication that they are entertaining the idea, but SOME ANALYST say that opening the ranks to younger Americans could provide unique benefits and may be the kind of fundamental overhaul the recruiting system needs for the 21st century."

I was in ROTC at 16....and joined at 18 after graduation....................Comrade...you aren't good at this and you constantly show it.
Have mom bring you some cheetos and a juice box, and those of us that have served will deal with the U.S.military...so your bib stays dry. We don't want you drooling and watching Stalin speeches

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Response to Oldgeezer (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:17 AM

17. "Chief marketing officer of Sandboxx" is who the OP is quoting.

Not exactly a high-up position in the DoD

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:07 AM

9. But no driving, voting, smoking, drinking, or strip clubs

But you can die for the MIC or be charged for a crime as an adult.

Freedom

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:56 AM

14. Tell it Lenin Jr. YOU ALWAYS take our enemies side in everything

Always spreading defeatism for USA and glorious propaganda for russia and iran

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:32 AM

21. No, your enemies.

Russia and Iran aren't sending our kids to die for nothing.
Russia and Iran aren't invading our borders or helping those that are.
Russia and Iran aren't killing our babies.
Russia and Iran aren't wrecking our culture.
Russia and Iran aren't deplatforming and censoring us.
Russia and Iran aren't lying to us 24/7 through our TVs and other media.

Russia and Iran aren't our enemies. They're your enemies, because you want them to be.

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Response to msv (Reply #21)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:37 AM

22. Good point, need to keep the focus/spotlight on those low IQ/EQ police state loving lefties.........

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Response to msv (Reply #21)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 01:01 PM

34. Iran killed 241 of our servicemen in Beirut, 5 in Karbala

Sent EFP's to kill our men in Iraq
Interfered in our election in 2016
Are indeed lying to us through TV and Media (RT/Sputnik/PressTV)

Russia and Iran are definitely Enemies of the United States of America and civilized nations

To you they are buddies

same guys who hang teenage girls for being raped
same guys who throw Homosexuals off rooftops
same guys your friends

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:18 AM

10. Due to lack of interest OR lack of physical requirements?

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Response to Dumper (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:19 AM

18. Overweight, tattoos, felonies, certain prescription meds, lack of HS diploma.....

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 05:35 AM

11. The Crazies target Kindergarteners so they'll buy into "Queer"

All Eligible should do at least 4 years,.I Graduated PR "A" School in June of 1977. The Man who ran it was a Gruff Marine CWO4.

When he handed me my Graduation Certificate. Had I known it would be my Meal Ticket for the next 41 years. I'd have Kissed him!



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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 09:40 AM

13. How many jumps did you make back in 1977?

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Response to uncledad (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:00 AM

15. A Grand Total of....

One! Freefall from 3500, They estimated a "2 min or 17 second" descent depending on how things went

The Point to it was I packed my own Parachute (an Instructor Packs the Reserve)

At that time you could return to the School for Advanced Training and they would cut you "Jump Orders" for Gold or Silver Jump Wings

In the Mid 80's the Army Complained to the Pentagon that the School was not an Accredited Jump School (Even though they had been doing Para-Ops for 50 years.) Now the Students aren't even allowed to do one Jump

That's Sad

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 11:27 AM

19. We're going to need plenty of bodies for Iran

and damn if it isn't getting harder and harder to fool older people into dying in pointless wars.

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Response to msv (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 01:18 PM

37. Always take the enemies side, the fifth column alive and well

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Sat Jul 20, 2019, 10:06 PM

27. One of my uncles signed up for the Navy when he was 16 in WW2.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #27)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 07:35 AM

30. Even though the Japs were 'of color?'

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Response to Dumper (Reply #30)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 12:53 PM

33. I don't care what color they were....they attacked the US.

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Mon Jul 22, 2019, 12:05 PM

32. Our political leaders want to tell CEOs they must have a certain percentage of women in board rooms

Why dont they demand more women join and serve?

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