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Prison experts are stunned and angry that Jeffrey Epstein was taken off suicide watch
'For them to pull him off suicide watch is shocking,' one former federal prison warden told NBC News.

Questions raised after Epstein dies after being taken off suicide watch

Aug. 10, 2019, 2:39 PM EDT / Updated Aug. 10, 2019, 3:24 PM EDT
By Jonathan Dienst, Andrew Blankstein, Dareh Gregorian and Rich Schapiro
Even before his first suspected suicide try last month, Jeffrey Epstein was perhaps the most vulnerable man in the federal jail system: a wealthy and well-known financier accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls. He was, by all accounts, the kind of inmate who should have been under the closest possible supervision.

Instead, Epstein was taken off suicide watch in the days before he apparently took his own life, officials told NBC News, a decision that baffled former wardens and veterans of the federal prison system.

"For them to pull him off suicide watch is shocking,” Cameron Lindsay, a former warden who worked at three federal facilities, told NBC News. “For someone this high-profile, with these allegations and this many victims, who has had a suicide attempt in the last few weeks, you can take absolutely no chances.”

Epstein, 66, was placed on suicide watch after he was found passed out in his jail cell with marks on his neck inside the Metropolitan Correctional Center on July 23, according to sources familiar with the matter.


Jeffrey Epstein found dead from apparent suicide
The conditions would have required him to be moved to a special bare-bones cell where he would be outfitted in a tear-resistant one-piece smock and receive stepped-up observation from a staffer or inmate posted outside, according to Lindsay and sources familiar with Epstein’s case.

But Epstein’s status was changed sometime in the last two weeks for reasons that remain unknown, officials told NBC News. The decision would normally have to have been authorized by the jail’s suicide prevention program coordinator, who is ordinarily the institution’s chief psychologist, and approved by the warden.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prison-experts-are-stunned-angry-jeffrey-epstein-was-taken-suicide-n1041121







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wonderwarthog Aug 11 OP
HerasHeaddress Aug 11 #1
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #8
Let it go Aug 11 #2
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #6
quad489 Aug 11 #17
Gunslinger201 Aug 11 #3
D26-15 Aug 11 #4
Squeek Aug 11 #9
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #11
quad489 Aug 11 #18
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #20
quad489 Aug 12 #25
wonderwarthog Aug 12 #27
Solesurvivor Aug 11 #22
quad489 Aug 12 #26
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #13
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #5
Gunslinger201 Aug 11 #7
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #10
Solesurvivor Aug 11 #23
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #24
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #12
Gunslinger201 Aug 11 #14
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #15
Gunslinger201 Aug 11 #16
quad489 Aug 11 #19
wonderwarthog Aug 11 #21

Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 03:59 PM

1. While I think the

jpeg used is infantile, I'd agree that prison officials who aren't directly involved in this debacle would be shocked and should have questions. It only makes sense that they would.

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Response to HerasHeaddress (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:18 PM

8. My take

If I were Bill Barr, head honcho of the DOJ and Federal prison system,

and I thought the evil Clintons (or whomever) had a hit on Epstein to silence him,

I would personally and directly make damn sure that Epstein was watched like a hawk 24/7 to prevent any harm from coming to him.

Which is the opposite of what happened.

Welcome to Putinland.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:05 PM

2. This is what Trump was brought in to fix.

The good thing is they are exposing themselves daily. Now EVERYONE knows it’s a swamp.

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Response to Let it go (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:13 PM

6. Too bad he didn't fix it



by telling Barr to directly intervene in assuring Epstein's saftey and protection.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:28 PM

17. So now YOU are blaming Barr??? Why would he have Epstein dispatched???

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Response to wonderwarthog (Original post)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:29 PM

3. Not Trumps Fault

This was the Deep State in action

Protecting Bill and Hill

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 04:51 PM

4. And there are those that refuse to believe that.

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Response to D26-15 (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:20 PM

9. And there are those

who believe everything they're told to believe, even without proof, as long as what they're told to believe matches what they want to believe.

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Response to Squeek (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:23 PM

11. Hi Squeek



I don't believe the truth will be found, until Trump is out of office - or never, if powerful people on both sides are involved.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:30 PM

18. ''until Trump is out of office''...so now YOU are blaming Trump??? Do tell.................

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Response to quad489 (Reply #18)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 09:17 PM

20. I think

you missed my point.

If it was Trumco approved, we won't know till he's out if office.

If BOTH (or just my) sides are involved, we will never know.

Could be either.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:12 PM

25. ''Could be either''...yes it could, but vast majority of reports out made it seem like democrats...

...had the most to fear from that sick POS testifying in court and naming names. Not sure what "Trumpco" had to fear...given he is the one who outed him out. But who knows.............

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Response to quad489 (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 06:56 PM

27. I sure don't.




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Response to Squeek (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

22. Only a complete and utter fool thinks this guy just offed himself

but with the way the FBI only takes care of the high and mighty we will never ever find out the truth

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:13 PM

26. Hear Hear

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Response to D26-15 (Reply #4)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:26 PM

13. My take



Powerful people on BOTH SIDES were served by Epstein's dying before he could talk.

If I am correct, we will never know the truth.

Like the Kennedy assasination.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:12 PM

5. Who is in charge



of the Federal Bureau of Prisons?

Hint - Bill Barr under Donald Trump

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:17 PM

7. Well we shall find out who bribed the Guards

And who disabled the Cameras and they will be spanked

And if we are passing blame shouldn’t the Mayors of Sanctuary Cities be charged as accessories for crimes Illegals commit?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:21 PM

10. It should be relatively easy


to scrutinize finances of prison staff to detect bribes.

I hope it happens.

If it doesn't -

welcome to Putinland.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:22 PM

23. why would this be Putinland?

The Russians don't want this guy dead quite the contrary, alive he'd cause so much more damage to the country by sinking a lot of democrats.

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #23)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 10:59 PM

24. Bottom line




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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:24 PM

12. Consider this...


If it was set up, and powerful people on both sides are being protected, we will never know the truth, even after Trump leaves office.

Like the Kennedy assasination.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:29 PM

14. Possibly, Except Trump took down Epstein

So this was a move against Trump

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:36 PM

15. They were closing in on Epstein


and Acosta let him go.

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 05:50 PM

16. Acosta said he was told by Obama DOJ to cut the deal

Quite a bit more of this story to come out

NEWSREPORT: Acosta Was Told Epstein ‘Belonged To Intelligence’ So ‘Leave It Alone


Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, a former Miami prosecutor, reportedly cut Jeffrey Epstein a deal in Epstein’s previous case because he was told that Epstein “belonged to intelligence.” Epstein now stands criminally accused of child sex trafficking.

The Daily Beast reports: “Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem ?” Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)”

Interesting.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-acosta-was-told-epstein-belonged-to-intelligence-so-leave-it-alone/

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 07:34 PM

19. And when the fault falls upon the Obama Administration, the Obama worshipers suddenly go silent.....

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 11, 2019, 09:20 PM

21. Could be.

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