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Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:10 PM

things look bad for hong kong protestors

I hope that the Chinese exercise a little restraint.


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Reply things look bad for hong kong protestors (Original post)
rampartb Aug 2019 OP
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #1
rampartb Aug 2019 #3
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #7
oldenuff35 Aug 2019 #6
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #9
Gunslinger201 Aug 2019 #2
rampartb Aug 2019 #5
oldenuff35 Aug 2019 #8
rampartb Aug 2019 #12
oldenuff35 Aug 2019 #14
Grumpy Pickle Aug 2019 #18
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #11
rampartb Aug 2019 #13
Currentsitguy Aug 2019 #15
Grumpy Pickle Aug 2019 #19
oflguy Aug 2019 #16
oflguy Aug 2019 #17
Grumpy Pickle Aug 2019 #20
Solesurvivor Aug 2019 #4
oldenuff35 Aug 2019 #10

Response to rampartb (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:15 PM

1. Did you see the live stream from the airport?

Frankly with as many phones and cameras there are around I suspect another Tienanmen Square will not be possible.

Technology has changed the game. To quote the 1968 Democratic Convention: "The whole world is watching".

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:21 PM

3. the whole world can be turned off in a minute and kept dark for a week

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Response to rampartb (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:32 PM

7. It would be difficult at best there

Hong Kong is just too much of a financial center to cut the lines of communication. The last thing China needs is to tank their markets. Between the sheer volume of fiber and sat uplinks I highly doubt cutting them off would be technologically feasible. As it is the protesters have set up a very resilient decentralized ad hoc mesh network throughout key parts of the city. Rumor has it they are also running communications and coordination through the in-game chat of various gaming platforms. This isn't like the PRC proper. There is no Great Firewall of China standing in the way. Anything that happens WILL get out.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:30 PM

6. Turn off the cell service and they can do anything they want to.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:16 PM

2. Crushed by the sort of Government Bernie dreams of

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:24 PM

5. the government admired by trump

sanders is as American as the new deal and 4 freedoms.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:32 PM

8. Sanders is a socialist, a "communist lite"

Trump is a capitalist.

Maybe you graduated from kindergarten but you sure as hell flunked high school American Government.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:38 PM

12. lololololol

"communism lite"

usa education really did turn to shit, didn't it

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Response to rampartb (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:55 PM

14. It did with you, thank god I graduated early on before the dirt bag left got control

But college and many years living in Europe watching socialism first hand and watching it fail did give me a perfect view of what Socialism really is.

Many of the northern European countries that used to identify as democrat socialist have run away from it.

I also got to see the eastern block before the wall went down and after. I have had many long discussions with the folks from "East Germany".

How do you think they all view your ideals? They would laugh at you as an idiot.

Socialism ends, it always ends, in one of three ways.

It just sputters out quietly after starving most of its population and depriving them of the social and medical serviced they need.

It ends by vote of the people, if they still can vote, when they see their hard earned money going to third world immigrants who have no desire to integrate or work for a living.

OR, as most of the left seems to be leaning toward now,

A dictator takes over by force. The left has studied past dictators and learned precisely what must happen for their plan to work.

Guess what the left wing plan is for this to happen in the USA?

First the left has to disarm us and remove our 2A rights.

That will never happen.

BUT, the left has the right to die trying.

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Response to oldenuff35 (Reply #14)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:19 PM

18. ...

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Response to rampartb (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:35 PM

11. The New Deal was one of the worst things that ever happened here

It needlessly prolonged the Great Depression and introduced the terrible concept that Washington should be involved in the private economy of the nation.

BTW: Want and Fear are not mentioned in the Constitution and have nothing to do with Freedom.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:42 PM

13. revisionist history

and the greatest generation knew exactly what they were fighting for. without them the constitution would be translated, very loosely, into german.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:56 PM

15. I never said they shouldn't fight

And while the 4 Freedoms are laudable goals, perhaps worth fighting for even, they are not Rights.

Even Keynes did not believe the New Deal had much effect:

"It is, it seems, politically impossible for a capitalistic democracy to organize expenditure on the scale necessary to make the grand experiments which would prove my case — except in war conditions."

WW2 ended the depression.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:31 PM

19. Roosevelt had communist advisors.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:00 PM

16. Heres your "American" Bernie Sanders

Bernie Sanders praising Fidel Castro and Daniel Ortega


Bernie Sanders Praised Socialist Venezuela as a Model for Ending Income Inequality
May 30, 2016
Five years ago, future Democratic presidential contender Bernie Sanders described Socialist-ruled Venezuela as a more suitable example of the American dream than the United States.

In an essay lamenting what he described as the intractable income inequality of the American economy, Senator Sanders declared: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger.”

Despite receiving trillions of dollars in oil revenue over recent decades, Venezuela is in the midst of an unprecedented economic collapse, owing precisely to the redistributionist programs that Sanders has extolled as a model for the U.S. economy. Grocery store shelves are barren, hospitals have no access to vital medicines, rationing is under way, and riots have begun to coalesce in the streets of Caracas.
http://www.libertynewsdaily.com/blog-929-flashback:-bernie-sanders-praised-socialist-venezuela-as-model-for-ending-income-inequality

Bernie Sanders Praising Bread Lines and Food Rationing


Bernie Sanders praises communist Russia

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Response to oflguy (Reply #16)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:14 PM

17. What Bernie seems to be oblivious to is that Castro took away the Cuban people's guns.

He makes the argument that since the Cuban people did not rise up against Castro, they were happy with communism. A brief discussion with anybody that escaped Cuba will dispel that theory.


Then, this moron tries to say it was Reagan that started a propaganda blitz to turn Americans against Castro. Like all democrats, he thinks Americans are stupid.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #16)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 02:34 PM

20. Sanders isn't an American.....he comes from hard core Bolshevik roots.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:22 PM

4. And the left want us to tern our guns in

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 13, 2019, 01:33 PM

10. Well that is never going to happen in our country.

But they have the right to die trying.

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