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Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:07 PM

Why the House wont vote for impeachment

in the end, Pelosi is doing nothing but checking a box for the most partisan people in her party. There will be nothing to show for it but wasted time and a diversion of the nation’s political conversation away from issues that real people care about. -CNN opinion piece.



By Tim Jones/American Thinker-

Although the Democrats may have done a dumb thing by initiating an impeachment process, they aren’t so stupid as to damage their electoral prospects as well as their credibility in the wake of the abject failure of the Mueller investigation. So the too-smart-by-half Democratic elites will take the short-term hit to their credibility on an impeachment inquiry rather than vote out articles of impeachment from the floor of the House of Representatives.

First, what kind of articles of impeachment can they write? The quid pro quo claim is a complete non-starter, where, in essence, they are trying to criminalize the words and the foreign policy of Trump by divining his intention in order to make their case for impeachment. There is absolutely no law they can point to that he broke in his conversation with President Volodymyr Zelensky. Second, it can’t even claim to be a violation of campaign finance laws.

So what do the Democrats have to go on? Absolutely nothing. Hypothetically, if they were to write up a couple of completely bogus articles of impeachment, they know they don’t have a chance of surviving a trial in the Senate. There is also the possibility that some of the Democrat representatives who were elected in 2018 in districts that Trump won in 2016 will vote against the articles along with some Democrats who actually have a remaining principle or two. read more

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/11/why_the_house_wont_vote_for_impeachment.html

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Gunslinger201 Wednesday OP
LavenderGirl Wednesday #1
Charlie Mike Thursday #6
T-1000 Wednesday #2
Fiendish Thingy-BC Wednesday #4
Fiendish Thingy-BC Wednesday #3
Gunslinger201 Thursday #5
Cynical Thursday #7

Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:13 PM

1. Bookmarking

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Response to LavenderGirl (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:40 AM

6. Did you happen to bookmark any of your threads about

The 2016 GOP primary, the 2016 election, the Steele dossier, the pee tape, or the Mewler report?

Asking for a friend.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 07:28 PM

2. Plus, it takes five of their current candidates....

(Warren, Sanders, Klobuchar, Harris, and Booker) off the campaign trail for however long a Senate trial would last. As I understand it, all senators have be present at the trial and they can't speak during the trial except for points of order.

I imagine those five might be whispering in Pelosi's ear that impeachment less than a year before the election isn't in their best interest. As in shooting themselves in the foot big time. We'll see.

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Response to T-1000 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 07:35 PM

4. Constitution states conviction by 2/3 of senators "present"

The senate may have rules on required attendance for an impeachment trial, but unless Mitch is going to send the Sgt. At Arms to forcibly bring senators back, what's to stop them from coming in to vote on the last day, and skipping the rest if the trial?

Or vice versa- if the enough of the 20-odd GOP senators up for re-election get nervous about acquitting Trump, what's to stop them from not showing up on the day of the vote? I can see Susan Collins or Corey Gardner no-showing...

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 07:30 PM

3. Cool opinion-filled story without any connection to reality

Despite Trump's obstruction, witnesses have come forward, and are continuing to come forward. You, me, and the rest of the American people have seen some of the transcripts of these depositions, and, one week from today, the public hearings begin to expose the High Crimes of this administration.

In just a couple of weeks, despite attempts by Billy Barr to distract with his own corrupt nonsense, the facts and evidence will be laid out for all to see. I'm sure you'll move the goalposts once again on what constitutes an impeachable offense, but your opinion will be irrelevant.

Speaking of opinions, that's all it takes to impeach- for a majority of congress to share the opinion, for example, that Trump did indeed abuse the power of his office, and to vote accordingly.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy-BC (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 02:53 AM

5. Whats not connected to reality....

is this entire fake impeachment

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:37 AM

7. The Sanders/Warren faction of the Democratic Party may force a vote

The supporters of the Sanders/Warren faction in the House may not quietly let things go without a vote on impeachment. Alternatively, if there is not vote in the House, will this cause those insisting on impeachment to sit out the 2020 election or primary sitting House Democrats?

I am really enjoying watching Pelosi trying and failing to find a way out of the impeachment dilemma and she doesn't seem to be getting much support from Steny Hoyer or James Clyburn. Also, Nadler seems to be very quiet right now as well.

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