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Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:08 PM

The F.B.I. never tried to place undercover agents or informants inside the Trump campaign,

Adam Goldman
By Adam Goldman
Nov. 27, 2019, 2:34 p.m. ET

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WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s inspector general found no evidence that the F.B.I. attempted to place undercover agents or informants inside Donald J. Trump’s campaign in 2016 as agents investigated whether his associates conspired with Russia's election interference operation, people familiar with a draft of the inspector general’s report said.

The determination by the inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, is expected to be a key finding in his highly anticipated report due out on Dec. 9 examining aspects of the Russia investigation. The finding also contradicts some of the most inflammatory accusations hurled by Mr. Trump and his supporters, who alleged not only that F.B.I. officials spied on the Trump campaign but also at one point that former President Barack Obama had ordered Mr. Trump’s phones tapped. The startling accusation generated headlines but Mr. Trump never backed it up.

The finding is one of several by Mr. Horowitz that undercuts conservatives’ claims that the F.B.I. acted improperly in investigating several Trump associates starting in 2016. He also found that F.B.I. leaders did not take politically motivated actions in pursuing a secret wiretap on a former Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page — eavesdropping that Mr. Trump’s allies have long decried as politically motivated.

But Mr. Horowitz will sharply criticize F.B.I. leaders for their handling of the investigation in some ways, and he unearthed errors and omissions when F.B.I. officials applied for the wiretap, according to people familiar with a draft of the report. The draft contained a chart listing numerous mistakes in the process, one of the people said.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/us/politics/fbi-trump-campaign-inspector-general.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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Reply The F.B.I. never tried to place undercover agents or informants inside the Trump campaign, (Original post)
orson Nov 27 OP
Bob the Bilderberger Nov 27 #1
His Daughter Nov 27 #2
Dumper Nov 27 #6
orson Nov 27 #10
Gunslinger201 Nov 27 #11
rahtruelies Nov 27 #3
def_con5 Nov 27 #4
Dumper Nov 27 #7
Paradigm Nov 27 #5
Dumper Nov 27 #8
orson Nov 27 #9
Gunslinger201 Nov 27 #12
Trevor Nov 28 #15
Gunslinger201 Nov 28 #16
Carl Nov 28 #17
Gunslinger201 Nov 27 #13
Let it go Nov 27 #14

Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:13 PM

1. They had their sister agency (CIA) do that

Everyone had their role.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:30 PM

2. Reports are the the document is compartmented

Few people get to see all of it. I am expecting a mix of results.

There were sources inside the campaign, so one could say that the FBI did not have to insert them. It does not mean the surveillance was legal or appropriate. A former Federal AAG has pointed out that they got approval for the same level of surveillance used for active terrorists. Have to wonder how that was justifiable.

Finally, as others have pointed out, the DOJ IG is about fixing up and keeping clean the FBI, Durham is about indictments.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:03 PM

6. I'm convinced this IG will never find an inside crime.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:21 PM

10. Do you really believe Durham

is going to produce indictments? Republican investigations seldom produce concrete results. I don't believe that's their purpose.

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Response to orson (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:24 PM

11. No, he just became a Criminal Investigation cuz everythings great

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:35 PM

3. fauxnews alert

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:45 PM

4. As one MSNBCanalyst said

The FBI doesn't spy on people. The FBI conducts court ordered surveillance. So I withdraw my complaint the FBI spied, from now on IO will claim the FBI conducted court ordered surveillance on the Trump campaign.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:04 PM

7. And that the Cts were lied to?

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:57 PM

5. NYT. Lol. Not a credible source.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:08 PM

8. Trump was wiretapped; perhaps the fbi neglected to get Potus approval, which

I think was necessary.

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Response to Dumper (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:13 PM

9. That's a right-wing fairy tale

Trump was never wire-tapped.

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Response to orson (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:26 PM

12. Are you calling Admiral Mike Rogers a Liar?

On March 4, 2017, just 43 days after taking office, President Donald Trump tweeted: “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

The person who initially tipped off Trump (on Nov. 17, 2016) that communications from Trump Tower were being tapped was Adm. Mike Rogers, then-head of the National Security Agency (NSA).

https://www.worldtribune.com/who-is-adm-mike-rogers-unsung-hero-alerted-president-trump-to-illegal-spying/

I suggest you stop listening to CNN and stepping in their Bullshit

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:46 AM

15. The Mike Rogers hoax was debunked under oath

All of Trump’s wiretap claims have now officially been debunked by the FBI and NSA

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/20/14982752/trump-wiretap-claims-officially-debunked-fbi-comey-nsa-rogers

Perhaps you are the one who should get better sources.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 03:02 AM

16. Negative Red Leader

You stepped in the Bullshit

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Response to Trevor (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 28, 2019, 02:44 PM

17. Vox debunks nothing.

Lefty opinion.

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 05:32 PM

13. Where Was Trumps Defensive Briefing?

If they really suspected Carter Page of working for Russia they would have been obligated to warn Trump

Didn’t Happen because they were running illegal surveillance on Trump

I don’t care what you believe or if you fall for Media Lies

The truth will out

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Response to orson (Original post)

Wed Nov 27, 2019, 06:20 PM

14. CIA did it. Also DOD / ONA

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