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Sat Aug 23, 2014, 12:44 PM

 

Off course trajectory of debris field proves that MH-17 deviated 14 miles to the left.

This is detailed analysis of the angle of the debris field and range of the US cited BUK missile system that the United States believes brought down flight MH-17. There are numerous fallacies related to the US's inadequate presentation, including the range of the cited BUK system in relation to the crash site as well as the angle of the debris field which doesn't correlate to the flight path. It is off course by 90 degrees to the left.

This deviation correlates to what the Russian government cited during their civilian radar presentation of the air space, which was released 4 days after MH-17 came down. They state that MH-17 made a 14 mile deviation from course and was trailed by a 'rising' fighter jet.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/61qa99yt6v3dq64/MH17Analysis_Parts_1_and_2.pdf

Additionally there are other inconsistent anomalies that are being revealed in relation to the 'official' version of the shoot down of MH-17 as cited by the United States. Proper investigation requires also looking for 'that which is not there' in relation to physics.

The left wing of MH-17 shows no sign of a shrapnel blast. The only heavy shrapnel blast damage is around the pilots cockpit window, which is improbable in light of the fact that a BUK missile detonates in proximity and not directly upon a target. The missile detonates by proximity fuse at an approximately distance of 70 feet from the target. It normally targets the larger part of an object due to it's radar. The probability of a detonation 70 feet distant that creates a massive hole right upon the pilot seat lower window requires astronomically impossible odds.

The dispersion of the fragments of the warhead occurs in a 360 degree arc with shrapnel fragments of various sizes. It is highly improbable that the largest fragment would hit directly at the pilots seat and leave a massive hole that is significantly larger than all other fragmentation pieces from a distance of 70 feet.

The blast would also send shrapnel directly into the oncoming portion of the plane which was moving towards the blast area at 500 miles an hour. With the detonation occurring roughly 70 feet to the left of the cockpit, the left wing would have gone directly into the blast and been splattered with shrapnel. However, there is no shrapnel damage apparent to the left wing as proven by the most comprehensive photo collection related to MH-17 and the wing in almost fully intact. There is no incendiary damage which is normally associated with burning hot shrapnel. Link here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/

The first 12 photos of this set show the damage to the wing which was possibly caused by strafing. https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/72157645853477595/

Notice the angle of the damage and how a portion has bubbled up in the center due to wind flow into the hole.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/14531070847/in/set-72157645853477595

This angle and damage is consistent with alignment to the heavy damage that is directly upon the pilots cockpit window which is shown in the first 12 photos here. https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/72157645471359080/

This photo shows a possible exit hole at the bottom to the right of the green metal. https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/14531069937/in/set-72157645853477595

Note that debris moving backwards form the cockpit would most likely not make an angle as such due to the excessively high wind speed. Debris would be blown straight backwards.

There is speculation that a MIG-29 (which can easily reach the altitude) hid in the pocket to the back left wing and hit the pilot with 30mm cannon fire.





German Pilot Peter Haisenko's expert aviation analysis of the damage to MH-17.

http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/

He notes that the climbing height of an SU-25 was changed from 10,000 meters to 7,000 meters on wikipedia the day before the shoot down. This is the reason many speculate it was an SU-25 that brought the jet down, however there is also the possibility it was a MIG-29.

This article explains how a missile actually ignites wreckage in air due to heat friction. A flaming fireball while airborne was not witnessed. The plane exploded on the ground. Therefore, once again, a missile exploding next to the front fuselage is not probable. Original article in German.

http://www.neues-deutschland.de/artikel/940136.reibungshitze-haette-alles-entflammt.html

From Microsoft translate.
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=de&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.neues-deutschland.de%2Fartikel%2F940136.reibungshitze-haette-alles-entflammt.html

This article, related to an intercepted email in March 2014, explains how the US and Kiev were gearing up for a false flag event in the near future. This may be a missing link. Is it possible this event was related to the future shoot down of MH-17?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/16/neo-leaked-documents-show-us-embassy-in-ukraine-is-staging-false-flag/

Award winning Associated Press reporter Robert Perry states CIA analysts believe Kiev shot down MH-17 and it is being covered up.



Video of Russian civilian radar presentation. Excerpt: "A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday."



According to the Russian Defense Ministry, at the time of the crash of Boing 777 in the skies over Ukraine on July 17 near the borderline was a Ukrainian Air Force plane, presumably Su-25.
Distance of the Ukrainian Su-25 from Boing 777 amounted to five kilometers, which fits into the range parameters of "air-to-air" missiles, which such aircraft are equipped with.

Original article: http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

Evidence showing that the US's presented 'social media evidence' is based upon deception.



Here is the Russian audio analysis of the manufactured recording. Unfortunately there are currently no subtitled english versions available. I am working on getting one. The audio recording was spliced incorrectly and it is easy to see how it was cut and pasted in a studio using basic audio software. Essentially Kiev did what any voiceover studio does. They made a little mini commercial with two VO actors sitting in front of microphones while an engineer stopped and started the recording..... but they made a pretty lousy incorrectly digitally spliced audio product. The recording is definitely fake and was made in a studio. With further analysis it may be possible to even determine the type of microphone used through audio frequency analysis. The microphones used were definitely not cell phone mics due to the width/fatness of the audio signal.





Finally I am including what has been called a 'smoking gun' but is still unverified at this time. It is a Facebook conversation that implicates Ukrainian oligarch Igor Kolomoisky. These Facebook screen shots point to direct involvement by Kiev personnel.

http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Crash_of_Malaysia_Airlines_flight_MH17/Cyber_Berkut_leak
http://voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3590-vzloman-akkaunt-pomoshnika-kolomoyskogo-na-facebook.html

Russian media coverage of Kolomoyskys Facebook leaks.
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For others looking for more information, this is a trove of information related to all things MH-17. Please distribute widely.http://dimitrxe.pp.fi/pub/Boras/home%20page/extras/Ukraine%20Filter%20June%20-%20August%202014.html

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Original post)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 12:49 PM

1. There are exactly two questions left

was the crew that fired the weapon made up of new russians or just regular old russian nationals, where are they?

who authorized weapons release local russian proxies or actual russian military command and control personnel?

the rest is a diversion.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:01 PM

2. CENTCOMM must be boring today?

 

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

I barely just posted it and your already here.

Excerpt:

The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.

A Californian corporation has been awarded a contract with United States Central Command (Centcom), which oversees US armed operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, to develop what is described as an "online persona management service" that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.

The project has been likened by web experts to China's attempts to control and restrict free speech on the internet. Critics are likely to complain that it will allow the US military to create a false consensus in online conversations, crowd out unwelcome opinions and smother commentaries or reports that do not correspond with its own objectives.

The discovery that the US military is developing false online personalities – known to users of social media as "sock puppets" – could also encourage other governments, private companies and non-government organisations to do the same.

The Centcom contract stipulates that each fake online persona must have a convincing background, history and supporting details, and that up to 50 US-based controllers should be able to operate false identities from their workstations "without fear of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries".

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:06 PM

3. but by pointing out the absurd

nature of the post I kick it to the top, not exactly smothering. more people see it because I call it russian propaganda.


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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:15 PM

4. Yet, just like your masters, you offer so little.....

 

10 days ago, The Netherlands, Belgium, Australia, and Ukraine have signed a ” Non-Disclosure Agreement “, which prohibits those countries to disclose the results of the investigation into MH17 and gives them a veto over each other.

We do not really know what Malaysia has agreed to as of yet.

They first “categorically refused to sign,” and then agreed that it may be done discreetly. This has not been confirmed by Kuala Lumpur.

The agreement signed on August 8 states that the progress and results of the investigation into the terrible accident of the Malaysian Boeing 777 will be kept confidential.

According to UNIAN correspondent, at a briefing in Kyiv on August 10, the spokesman for the Prosecutor General Yuri Boychenko, said the investigation was continuing and that the results would be published until she was quite over and only if all signatories agreed. Each signatory may exercise his veto without having to justify it.

Only after signing the agreement that the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has given permission to investigators Malaysian to inspect the crash site of the airliner from the “Malaysian Airlines” in the Donetsk region.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-causes-of-the-mh17-crash-are-classified-ukraine-netherlands-australia-belgium-signed-a-non-disclosure-agreement/5397194?print=1

Foxes are guarding the henhouse. Since when has any investigation ever included a possible suspect as a contributing investigator? It is unprecedented.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 01:26 PM

5. Doesn't matter, the shoot down was recorded live

even if this were true the status of overflight and elint combined with the recent russian invasion makes the situation quite clear.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:20 PM

6. You got any proof of that invasion? I'm still waiting to see the armored convoy that was attacked

Last week. You know the one the UK journalists witnessed.

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:31 PM

7. white trucks are still an invasion

seems putin payed some attention to that german lady.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:38 PM

8. You mean the ones that dropped off their goods

And went home?

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:40 PM

10. yep, still an invasion

putin is playing his game germany will play theirs.

reverse the roles if someone just pulled trucks right into russia, hell they used to shoot down civilian airliners over soviet air space (some say they still do shoot down airliners...).

arsonist firefighters.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:57 PM

13. Pavulon,

 

you said the shoot down was recorded live. By whom? And do you have any proof of this? From what I have seen there has been no video evidence of such a recording. The US released two still black and white images that didn't show a missile firing. They also had no geo-coordinates or time stamps. Here's a pic form the US presentation. This is not proof of anything. It is actually one of the most pathetic presentations of evidence I think we have ever been asked to accept. It certainly isn't becoming of a super power.

Compare that to the Russian presentation of video evidence above and they make the US presentation look like it was created by incompetent amateurs.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:03 PM

15. Let me hold my breath

while NRO gets right on your request. I mean why would you want to keep capabilities of observation platforms from your enemy (whomever)?

russia shot it down by proxy or directly. was it an SU-25, now a MIG 29, or kiev, or just a SCAME.

watch germany and the EU, the rest is just a distraction.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:10 PM

20. Yet they released pics of 3 old T-64 tanks when they needed to.

 

I guess that 'security status reason' only applies when the results of said information serves US purposes?

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:01 PM

14. It's not invasion

because state of Ukraine is not sovereign there. De jure arguments (which would be a long and boring debate) don't apply when de facto sovereign power is being decided by military means. The sovereign power in Lugansk and Donetsk is Confederation of People's Republics.

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Response to id-entity (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:05 PM

17. sure they aren't

the arsonist firemen are just there to help abate the suffering ... they created.

those are made up things by someone in KGB running a proxy war. crimea is still crimea and eastern ukraine is still well ukraine, just because russia is treating it like how germany treated poland right before a big giant war doesn't make a difference in that.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:09 PM

19. Sweet dreams, pal :)

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:30 PM

26. You mean like sending combat troops into Syria without an invitation?

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:39 PM

30. combat troops? what unit?

please let me know, i'd love to hear the details.

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #33)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 05:54 PM

37. Talk about 'pot calling the kettle black'....

 

and here I was thinking that Russia needed permission to save lives. Apparently the US has some special privileges when it comes to sovereignty and respect for international boundaries. The hypocrisy is astounding. And he was just one man....whereas over 5,000 ethnic Russian civilians in east Ukraine have been killed by the Kiev nazi junta. A new video was released just yesterday. Graphic Warning: it is as horrific as the James Foley video. These were women, children and men.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #37)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:03 PM

38. Nevermind those missing journalists in Ukraine? Apparently our government doesnt think much of

their safety.

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #33)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:58 PM

43. sounds like the russian anti piracy

action in somali basin, boy what an invasion? you guys are a riot.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #30)

Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:36 PM

47. It seems that the US is now up to exactly that.

 

It's apparently fine for the US to cross sovereign borders but not for Russia. Ones proven to have delivered aid in trucks, the other has proven to have delivered bombs.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:39 PM

9. There is no 'evidence' coming from the government....

 

all evidence is coming from us citizen bloggers this time around. The government are the ones hiding evidence.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:47 PM

11. The governments are the ones

figuring out to do if putin invades new russia..

Source Content Audience MEdia Desired effect. learn it love it live it filter it all, don't believe they hype.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:04 PM

16. At least your finally accepting that it is called

 

Novorossiya. Took you a while but you eventually got it.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:07 PM

18. yes by the ultra nationalists putin let run

wild. I have been using the term for quite a while now as it is used by those in russia who promote invasion.

like Sudetenland was thrown around back in the day.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:13 PM

21. At least they got you guys sticking to your talking points

 

and spoon fed terminology. i.e. "invasion, invasion, invasion". It certainly is childish and a little sad that a grown individual is so easily led by their masters to do their bidding. Can you explain how the hole is right there at the pilot seat?

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #21)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:16 PM

22. you guys make it all complicated

russia wants their naval base back, russia doesn't like the EU meddling in domestic putin politics, so they are takin it back.

they fucked up and shot that airliner thinking it was another cargo plane like the one they shot down around the same time.

the rest is all horse shit made up to confuse things.

guess holland is off the vacation list for russians rich folks for a bit.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:48 PM

23. Just as I thought.....

 

you can't explain anything to do with the plane. Maybe you could explain the lack of shrapnel damage to the wings?

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:59 PM

24. the russian missile fired by russians or their puppets

didn't hit the wings? a quick google shows pictures of just that comrade.

they must be photoshop by western imperialists to besmirch the motherland.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:36 PM

27. Lets hear that cockpit recording. Lets see whats on those black boxes. Lets hear what Ukraine flight

controllers told the pilots to do. You have nothing , never did

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #27)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:38 PM

28. fly into this russian SAM

and crash killing all aboard. I'm sure that's what it says, russia is still shelling east ukraine fyi.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:40 PM

31. Gift for you.

 

The Russian aid convoy arrived.....and guess what? It was actually carrying..... Aid! Who'd a thunk it?
Certainly not you as you attempted to denigrate them any way you could....once again you've been proven a fool.
This is getting a touch sad for you.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #31)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:41 PM

32. RT KBG all the freakin same to me

hey that rhymes, cool huh.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:53 PM

34. You have nothing!

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:09 PM

25. Sojuz Narodnyh Respublik

"Novorossiya" is the name of the geographic area. AFAIK 'Confederation of People's Republics' is the current official name, and we'll see how many people's republic's want to join the emerging confederation, which is not likely to be geographically limited only to Novorossiya area.

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Response to id-entity (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:38 PM

29. I think we will see everything East of the Dneiper River as Novorossiya.

 

They'd be crazy to stay under the rule of corrupt, broke fascists when Novorossiya is rich in resources.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 05:06 PM

35. AFAIK

Also Transnistria would be eager to join the new Confederation of socialist internationalism, as well as most southern and eastern provinces of Ukraina. IMHO military conquer and domination of areas where Banderism and militant Ukie nationalism still prevails is not advisable, those people should be given chance to liberate themselves as they see best.

I must admit that I would be very curious to see what effect a inclusive internationalist "all wellcome" socialist confederation north of Black See would have on European and global level, though I am not a supporter of statism myself.

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Response to id-entity (Reply #35)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 05:48 PM

36. I think it's actually possible we will see the breakup of the

 

European Union over this. I give it 3 years or less. I believe the people are finding out what's going on and they will change it. The US has overplayed it's hand and is losing credibility all over the globe. If the truth of MH-17 came out it would be the straw that broke the camels back.....for that we'll have to wait and see.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #36)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:13 PM

39. Well see

And I'm so glad to be here, to see another world forming...

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Original post)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:52 PM

12. Thats what happens when Russian Fascist missiles hit it

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #12)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:14 PM

40. Sincerely,

What did they do to you? How and when did they break you so badly? Army?

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Response to id-entity (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:13 PM

41. Sorry whats the Putin approved response supposed to be?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #41)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:56 PM

42. Do they not teach you guys to say anything other than....

 

"Putin, Putin, Putin?" You must feel like a small shell of a man constantly doing what your told.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #42)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 08:00 PM

44. Do you guys get taught to ever stop kissing his ring?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #41)

Sat Aug 23, 2014, 08:58 PM

45. Ask Putin

if you need approval from someone you consider your superior.

I speak as just myself, free. I know you want the same, but you are still bit too scared of those who broke you.

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Original post)

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 05:45 PM

48. Additional info Via RT run through Google translate:

 

&feature=youtu.be Russian media are now covering the Facebook leaks. MH17: a missile and cannon fire are the cause of the crash
Malaysian Boeing, which crashed in July in Ukraine, was killed by a missile air-to-air and 30 mm shells of attack aircraft Su-25, reported Wednesday the Malaysian newspaper New Straits Times referring to experts.

"Several pictures of the crash site show fragments resembling those of a remote controlled weapon and other pictures we see traces of a more accurate shot, cannon fire., We're analyzing it , "said an expert Malaysian newspaper.

According to experts, this hypothesis explains the nature of the damage to the Boeing 777, including the presence of round holes, which are the result of cannon fire, and not holes caused by missile shrapnel.

Experts cited by the newspaper believe a missile air-to-air heat homing warhead with a 3kg hit the engines of the airliner.
If the plane had been hit by a surface to air missile Bouk, it would have been completely destroyed and the attacker would not have needed to use a 30 mm cannon.

Boeing was flying at 10,600 meters above sea level while the attack aircraft Su-25 has a service ceiling of 7,600 m. According to experts, the pilot of the Su-25 would have had to push "at peak performance, but it's entirely possible."

General Andrei Kartapolov, head of operational command of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, had previously announced that a Ukrainian fighter aircraft, probably a Su-25 was flying at a distance of 3 to 5 kilometers from the Malaysian Boeing that crashed later He recalled that the Su-25 is capable of destroying airborne targets at a distance of 5 km http://rt.com / news / 174,412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine /

According to media reports, the data from black boxes of the Boeing 777 did not contradict the assumption that the aircraft was damaged by an air-air missile.
http://fr.ria.ru/world/20140806/202058801.html

SEE ALSO http://stopmensonges.com/un-jet-to-Larmee Ukrainian-su-25-detected-pres-the-flight-mh17/

SEE ALSO HERE WITH PHOTOS AND DETAILED EXPLANATION https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202633494774164&set=a.1215610746022.2031821.1101437229&type=1&theater

This explains the nature of the damage to the Boeing 777, including the presence of round holes, which are the result of cannon fire, and holes not from missile shrapnel

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Response to Clarity of Signal (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:45 PM

49. More links to my extensive video threads on the Ukraine Crisis.

 

The US backed Ukrainian nazis killing in HD.
http://www.discussionist.com/101437739

Malaysia Airlines MH-17

Shocking revelations about MH-17 shoot down
http://www.discussionist.com/101441877

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/02/osce-monitor-tells-cbc-canada-that-mh-17-cockpit-has-holes-made-by-heavy-machine-gun-fire/
Duplicate thread- http://www.discussionist.com/101439512

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/11/extensive-evidence-coming-to-light-that-contradicts-the-official-us-narrative-in-the-downing-of-malaysia-airlines-mh-17/

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/15/overlooked-the-mysterious-imprisoned-us-spy-who-gave-the-daily-mail-witness-testimony-about-mh-17/
Duplicate thread- http://www.discussionist.com/101445081

The US media wall of coverup and deception of the Ukraine crisis is breaking down.
http://www.discussionist.com/101430211

Ukrainian TV channel financed by US openly calls for genocide of the people of east Ukraine.
http://www.discussionist.com/101439830

Telegraph UK- Ukraine crisis: the neo-nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists -Graphic Warning
http://www.discussionist.com/101445398

The Ukrainian army marches in Kiev
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017210421

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/16/graphic-warning-video-proof-that-the-us-media-is-lying-the-naf-are-winning-in-ukraine/
Duplicate thread- http://www.discussionist.com/101444841

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/23/off-course-trajectory-of-debris-field-proves-that-mh-17-deviated-14-miles-to-the-left/
Duplicate thread- http://www.discussionist.com/101449213

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/08/28/verifiable-proof-that-the-us-and-uk-media-have-lied-about-ukraine-on-numerous-occasions/
Duplicate thread- http://www.discussionist.com/101451370


http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/09/06/cnn-finally-recognizes-the-kiev-coup-army-is-killing-innocent-civilians-in-east-ukraine/

Guardian UK war correspondent John Pilger tells the truth about Ukraine and Western propaganda http://www.discussionist.com/101459708

http://my.firedoglake.com/operationmindcrime/2014/09/16/usuk-media-coverup-of-nazis-in-ukraine-continues-unraveling-and-mh-17-falls-apart/
Duplicate thread- http://www.discussionist.com/101458043

MH-17 still exactly where it fell - two months after crash - with no investigation of wreckage http://www.discussionist.com/101458821

Ukraine- The rise of a US supported fascist state. http://www.discussionist.com/101461889
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The incredulous lies of the US media on Ukraine
http://www.discussionist.com/101463288


Evidence is now conclusive that two Ukrainian fighter jets shot down Malaysia Airlines MH-17 http://www.discussionist.com/101468141

http://my.firedoglake.com/blog/2014/10/23/russia-today-releases-mh-17-the-untold-story/
http://www.discussionist.com/101469874

http://my.firedoglake.com/blog/2014/11/04/novorossiya-elections-completely-opposite-to-the-way-us-government-portrays-them/
Duplicate thread: http://www.discussionist.com/101473434


http://my.firedoglake.com/blog/2014/11/14/tv1-russia-releases-satellite-image-of-mh-17-being-shot-down-on-eve-of-g20-summit/

http://www.discussionist.com/101475940 -duplicate


Meet The Pilot Who Shot Down Malaysian Boeing MH-17 - Colonel Vladislav Voloshin http://www.discussionist.com/101491053

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