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Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:20 PM

Its Official: The Canadian Parliment shooter is a MUSLIM.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2803422/Canadian-Parliament-lockdown-gunman-shoots-Canadian-Forces-soldier-standing-guard-National-War-Memorial.html
Pictured: Soldier, 24, shot dead by Muslim convert Michael Zehaf-Bibeau who opened fire on Canadian Parliament in terrifying attack that left capital on lockdown

Witness accounts of a suspect include descriptions of him as short with long hair, overweight, wearing a dark jacket and 'Arabic scarf'

The article is a good read, but You likely know the rest by now. The only new thing is the shooter's ties with the religion of peace.

Mad killer on a shooting spree = most likely a muslim.




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Reply Its Official: The Canadian Parliment shooter is a MUSLIM. (Original post)
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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:24 PM

1. Just work place violence. Move along. Nothing to see here, move along.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:30 PM

20. Thats what that

idiot Melissa Harris Perry said about the beheading in Missouri

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:24 PM

2. And he smoked pot, at least once.

 

Reefer Madness.

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Response to Mastadon (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:32 PM

4. It helps bolster confidence. And

in the case of getting shot, helps curtail the affects of pain. At least that's what I've heard.


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Response to Mastadon (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:42 PM

7. lol

I must be a cra-cra mofo then...

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:27 PM

3. YOU RACIST WHITE DEVIL!

 

How DARE YOU

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Response to Hockamaw (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:44 PM

9. But I'm a good looking White Devil.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:36 PM

5. I'm shocked!

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:37 PM

6. You mean it's not another TEA party member? I'm shocked, there have been SOOOOOO many.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:43 PM

8. Ya

It's like every day...

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:45 PM

10. Do you feel his attack was religiously fueled?

 

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:48 PM

11. Recent convert to islam. shooting soldiers and parliment types..."YES!" said Captain Obvious

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:50 PM

12. I tend to agree

 

As a species, we need to mature beyond religion or else we will destroy ourselves.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:54 PM

13. No. You cannot tie all region to this barbaric one.

take a diversity class. People are allowed to be different from atheists.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:56 PM

14. Sorry, if we agree his murder was fueled by religion

 

Then religion is the root of the problem.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:58 PM

15. Again, NO. islam is the root of the problem, not all religion.

Take your atheist bigotry elsewhere.

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:32 PM

21. No bigotry.

 

I realize we will not solve the religion problem near term, if ever. But if we don't, it will destroy us. Hopefully any survivors of our species will not make the same mistakes we have.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:30 PM

42. Fatalistic

There is a time for every season under the sun, a time to be blindsided by the liberal swansong that a swallow does not a summer make, that these, as of now sporadic, incidents of lone wolf attacks do not constitute a threat to open societies and are not to be attributed to a specific religion and its adherents.
You posit an either/or sort of future as if anything we do or do not do will not make any difference, that we can safely leave the survival of open societies as an existential legacy for future generations.
Today, if one is alarmist, then one is termed racist. Today, If you worry about the security implications of unchecked immigration, then you are termed Islamophobic. Yes, today, an eye for an eye shall make the whole world blind, blind to what ?

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:46 PM

47. Not sure who I disagree with more, you or the one you responded to.

I am also gonna pull a statement out of my butt: I have NO CLUE what the future holds for humanity. I suspect if a Discussionist poll were taken NO CLUE would win the majority vote over 'religion will be the death of us'.

Until you made that statement I was 100% with you.

As to you being called bigoted, obviously the pot is calling the kettle black here. The fact that he/she(?) told you to take your opinion elsewhere (in a forum where discussion should be encouraged) earns his/her membership on my ignore list.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 07:58 PM

16. HIS religion certainly is a problem

...specifically his extreme version of it.

Sorry. False equivalency meme doesn't fly.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:06 PM

25. And he feels yours is

 

And it will continue to escalate until we either destroy each other or mature as a species.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:14 AM

30. We aren't attacking Muslims while screaming Jesus/ Buddha is great

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:29 AM

35. Really?

I think these guys were a bit more official for "we" than this guy is for Muslims...

http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB124266487032730893

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Response to Jaime Espinoza (Reply #35)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:06 PM

39. Again

for the obtuse.

We didnt attack anyone screaming Jesus is great.

a memo is just that, 99% of those who served never even heard of those memos

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:08 PM

44. +1,000. n/t.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:12 AM

29. Sorry Disagree I dont see many Amish religion inspired terrorist attacks, YMMV

I do see Islam inspiring thousands of attacks worldwide since 1973.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:05 AM

33. Those damn Buddhists

I'm tired of them ruining good caves just for the sake of meditation.

You are right all religion must go!

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Response to 700WinMag (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 10:31 AM

36. You are surely aware of the Buddhist terrorists in Myanmar?

Or let me guess... they don't put salt in their porridge?

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:00 PM

17. Except, of course, when a mad killer on a shooting spree =

christian.

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Response to Magyar (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:15 AM

31. Evidence shooter was inspired by Christianity to commit such violence?

Or as usual for you, pulling such claims out of your 4th point of contact?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:13 AM

34. "...4th point of contact?"

That's classy.

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Response to Magyar (Reply #34)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:07 PM

40. Its

a level of class appropriate for the post being responded to

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:02 PM

18. a motive no one has mentioned

 

Is perhaps he saw a video on youtube disparaging the prophet?

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:13 PM

19. Or a cartoon.

Those things tend to set off ROPers.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:46 PM

22. I wonder how long it'll be before that 'ole excuse-making gambit by liberals

will make an appearance in this thread: but, but, but....what about TIM MCVEIGH?!?

They got exactly one guy they can point to in the last twenty years who remotely fits the bill of terrorist whose family was Christian, and they always trot him out - even though McVeigh was an avowed ATHEIST and not a Christian, and did not commit his terrorist act for RELIGIOUS reasons, but rather for secular political reasons.

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Response to Zimm_Man_Fan (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:04 AM

27. What's the practical difference?

Seriously. What difference is there?

Well, OK, one dead Canadian soldier to McVeigh's 168 dead civilians...

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Response to MercATC (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:42 AM

37. Nope: not even close. The first four paragraphs get you just to 2009:


United States February 26, 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, in New York City. 6 killed.
Algeria December 24, 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
Saudi Arabia June 25, 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
Egypt November 17, 1997 - The Luxor massacre at Deir el-Bahri, an archaeological site. 62 killed.

2000–2009
The north face of Two World Trade Center (south tower) immediately after being struck by United Airlines Flight 175
Hasib Hussain, who detonated the bus bomb in Tavistock Square in the 7 July 2005 London bombings, is captured on CCTV leaving

Yemen October 12, 2000 – Attack on the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden. 17 American sailors were killed, 39 injured.
United States September 11, 2001 – 4 planes hijacked by 19 al-Qaeda hijackers: two planes crashed into World Trade Center and one into the The Pentagon. Nearly 3000 dead.
Indonesia October 12, 2002 – 2002 Bali bombings in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali, killing 202 people and injuring 240.
Indonesia August 5, 2003 – 2003 Marriott Hotel bombing in Mega Kuningan, South Jakarta, Indonesia; suicide bomber detonated a car bomb outside the JW Marriott Jakarta lobby, killing 12 and injuring 150
Spain March 11, 2004 – Madrid train bombings, killed 191 people and wounded 1,800.

September 1, 2004 - Beslan, Russia - School, 1200 hostages held, 300 killed, 156 children () and (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis)

Indonesia September 9, 2004 – 2004 Australian Embassy bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia; suicide bomber exploded a one-tonne car bomb, which was packed into a small Daihatsu delivery van, outside the Australian embassy at Kuningan District, South Jakarta killing 9 and injuring over 150
United Kingdom July 7, 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
Egypt July 23, 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
United Kingdom February 1, 2007 – The 2007 plot to behead a British Muslim soldier – A group of British Pakistanis in Birmingham, England planned to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier in order to undermine the morale of the British Army and inhibit recruitment of Muslims.
India September 13, 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.
India November 26, 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 166 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's financial capital, Mumbai. The government of India blamed Pakistan based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba and stated that the terrorists killed/caught were citizens of Pakistan, a claim which the Pakistani government first refused but then accepted when given proof. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.
Somalia June 18, 2009 – 2009 Beledweyne bombing by Al-Shabaab. 35 dead.

And only starts in 1990:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamic_terrorist_attacks

A more comprehensive list, going back to 1968 all the way to 2014, is available here from Irish atheist and liberal (since I know liberals on discussion forums tend to like to attack the source rather than dispute the facts when they encounter inconvenient truths) Mark Humphreys here:

http://markhumphrys.com/islamic.attacks.west.html

So, your reply above is invalid, on several orders of magnitude. But, then, you already knew that.


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Response to Zimm_Man_Fan (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:09 AM

28. Why lie? Especially when its so easily demonstrated you are wrong.

Anyway, you are the only one I see here making excuses

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 11:46 AM

38. Why, indeed? As I have done exactly that: demonstrated irrefutably that

"MercATC" is dreadfully, badly wrong:

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=70022

Good observation.

Anyway, you are the only one I see here making excuses

Yeah, right.

Have fun reading and educating youself at the link above!

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Response to Zimm_Man_Fan (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:19 PM

45. There was nothing educational there.

But maybe you could use some educating.

Wade Michael Page
Shelly Shannon
Jim David Adkisson
Paul Jennings Hill
Eric Rudolph
John C. Salvi
Joseph Stack

Not to mention Huttaree, KKK, etc.

And then, since you opened it up to a worldwide conversation:
How many years of ongoing terrorism in Ireland?
Ongoing issues with Christian Terrorists in India
Lords Resistance army ring a bell?

It might be interesting to run the numbers on people murdered in the US by Muslims VS by Christians over the last year. I wonder what it would come up with.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:52 PM

48. Oh yes there was: that you chose not to face the facts squarely on

the screen in front of you - facts that rendered your reply above completely and totally invalid - is a problem uniquely your own, not mine or anyone else's. All that irrelevant jazz in your subsequent reply is just that: irrelevant, non-responsive, and off-topic

That is a concession, of sorts, that you realize you have lost the debate and are unwilling to participate any longer in same. Concession accepted.

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Response to Zimm_Man_Fan (Reply #48)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:01 PM

52. You dont have facts, and you dont have an argument

I look forward to your next meaningless response, full of bluster and nothing of relevance.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #52)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:05 PM

54. Oh yes I do. Here, I'll provide you the link again since you missed it the first

time (apparently):

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=70022

I look forward to your next...response

As you have already conceded the debate, all this boils down to is continuing to provide you with the educational resources you keep missing out on the first time I post them.

Happy reading!



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Response to Zimm_Man_Fan (Reply #54)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:21 PM

57. There is nothing of worth

at your link. Why would i waste time on it twice?

You have lost the debate. Leaving it at this time concedes nothing except that you will need to do better next time if you want to be taken seriously. Have yourself a good night now, ya'hear.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #57)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:22 PM

58. Uh-huh.



All too easy.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 08:00 PM

49. Edjumicate me who did Hutaree idjits kill again? what crimes did they get convicted of?

Did the PIRA scream Jaysus great begorrah when they attacked the British?

Was Wade Page motivated by Nazism or Christianity? do you know?

Wasn't Jim Adkisson's motivation to kill liberals and democrats? does not his manifesto NOT mention religion as a motivator?

Wasn't Stack a Pissed off Democrat annoyed at the IRS? in point of fact did he not mention his hatred for the Catholic Church and the IRS in his suicide note?

now Timmy McVeigh is on record saying his religion is Science? should I then say Atheists killed those at OKC?





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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 08:06 PM

50. Excellent takedown with FACTS on hand that can't be refuted.



But I'll bet the only reply you'll get will either be (1) more distortions and fact-twisting and attempts to change the subject, (2) sheer name-calling, or (3) some combo of both.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #49)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:00 PM

51. You can Say whatever you want

Doesn't change the facts. Doesn't change the fact that on any given day you and I are at far greater risk of being harmed by a Christian than a Muslim.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #51)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:02 PM

53. Well it changes the Facts that Half of your claim was

dropping from the South end of a North bound bull.

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #53)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:19 PM

55. Doesnt change you being wrong

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #55)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:20 PM

56. Except, he's not: you are. As shown up & down this thread.

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Response to OneLoudVoice (Reply #55)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:22 PM

59. I wasn't wrong but you demonstrably were

Sad Panda?

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #59)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 09:22 PM

60. Yep: not just once, but repeatedly.

Sad Panda?

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:48 PM

23. Are you sure it wasn't a radical Lutheran?

Islam is the religion of peace.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:57 PM

24. Nutty people abound.

You have to wonder why anyone would want to convert over to this dead end, loser ideology. There's something mentally wrong with people like this.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 09:10 PM

26. western muslims looking for street cred with their ISIS bros n/t

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 02:20 AM

32. I guess we now know who will be glamorously featured on the cover of next month's Rolling Stone

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Response to Bronxbomber (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 12:10 PM

41. +1

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:29 PM

43. Local talk show here in Montreal has been discussing the topic.

In a lengthy interview with a Muslim cleric he describes the dozen different major factions of Islam and says all these terrorists from ISIS to Al Quedda are all coming solely from one faction.
This one=Wahhabi
http://atheism.about.com/od/islamicsects/a/wahhabi.htm
Oddly the majority of whom come from Saudi Arabia.

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Response to Da Mannn (Original post)

Thu Oct 23, 2014, 07:32 PM

46. CORRECTION:

"Its Official: The Canadian Parliament shooter WAS a MUSLIM."

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