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Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:46 AM

CIA Torture answer of the year!

Take that Chuck Toad!



I couldn't agree more

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Reply CIA Torture answer of the year! (Original post)
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 OP
House of Roberts Dec 2014 #1
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #2
Rephleshed Dec 2014 #37
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #38
Grebbid Dec 2014 #47
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #63
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #50
Winston Dec 2014 #3
magdrop Dec 2014 #4
rampartb Dec 2014 #5
Magyar Dec 2014 #12
rampartb Dec 2014 #13
Fiendish Thingy-BC Dec 2014 #33
Magyar Dec 2014 #64
Satanica Dec 2014 #6
ol geezer Dec 2014 #7
Winston Dec 2014 #8
ol geezer Dec 2014 #10
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2014 #31
magdrop Dec 2014 #35
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2014 #36
magdrop Dec 2014 #40
Grebbid Dec 2014 #48
magdrop Dec 2014 #53
ol geezer Dec 2014 #46
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #51
Fiendish Thingy-BC Dec 2014 #34
Badsamm Dec 2014 #42
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #9
ol geezer Dec 2014 #11
Banshee 3 Actual Dec 2014 #32
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #52
ol geezer Dec 2014 #54
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #56
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #57
ol geezer Dec 2014 #60
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #61
ol geezer Dec 2014 #65
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #15
Blade53 Dec 2014 #19
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #21
Blade53 Dec 2014 #24
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #26
Blade53 Dec 2014 #28
Bo Diddley Dec 2014 #55
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #22
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #25
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #27
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #29
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #30
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #58
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #62
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #14
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #17
Rephleshed Dec 2014 #39
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #41
Rephleshed Dec 2014 #43
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #44
Rephleshed Dec 2014 #45
brew9876 Dec 2014 #49
JoePolitics Dec 2014 #59
Tarzan Dec 2014 #16
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #18
Tarzan Dec 2014 #20
Gunslinger201 Dec 2014 #23

Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:56 AM

1. That's exactly what I'd expect a war criminal to say.

Cheney's lack of respect for a critic is basically meaningless.

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:00 AM

2. Okay

I still love that answer...its my answer too

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:57 PM

37. Your answer is shit.

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:04 PM

38. And I love you too

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:35 PM

47. Your post is shit

WHeee !

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Response to Grebbid (Reply #47)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:52 PM

63. Thank you

Brilliant Counterpoint

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:05 PM

50. Ditto.

 

Don't give a shit about some whinebag or the UN (Useless Nations).

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:00 AM

3. Yup.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:32 AM

4. Chuck Toad is a moron.

What does the United Nations have to do with anything?

These are capital crimes under US law. The death penalty should be sought. In an American court.

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Response to magdrop (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:28 AM

5. they are crimes against humanity

12 americans will never agree to the death penalty, and i'm not certain it is appropriate.

the proper jurisdiction is a war crimes tribunal at the hague, wher a life sentence is more likely.

cheney's "answer" to the sniveling chuck toad is more of a childish excuse.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:26 AM

12. Agreed 100%.

But, as far as I know we never signed the Hague accords...

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Response to Magyar (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:36 AM

13. as far as i know, neither did serbia

but you may be right.

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Response to Magyar (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:01 PM

33. We (Reagan) signed the UN Convention against torture

Which has clauses for international enforcement. Bush/Cheney backed out of the International Criminal Court, but that has no effect on the Convention, and is why, with exception of the Occasional speaking engage,net in Canada, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice,meant leave the U.S.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy-BC (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 07:17 PM

64. thanks.

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Response to magdrop (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:57 AM

6. I agree

 

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 08:58 AM

7. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Richard Cheney thinks treating other people badly is a good thing to do, while he and his cohorts should walk free for starting a war for profit and based on lies, insuring the war on terror they support, should go on forever, so he and his friends can make a profit off of destabilizing countries and killing people as an excuse for his own twisted excesses, when his victims object and fight back.
This man is sick and needs to be committed for everyone's protection.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:02 AM

8. So Islamic extremists are "victims" ?

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Response to Winston (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:16 AM

10. You are looking at the wrong end.

Go back to the beginning and see how we interfered with and destabilized meddle East countries, way back in the 1920's.
This country is in no way innocent.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:18 AM

31. Meh

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:54 PM

35. By terrorists do you mean 14 guys in a cave somewhere?

Or do you mean the people who defeated the most secure airspace in the world and then covered up how they did it?

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Response to magdrop (Reply #35)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:56 PM

36. Ahh should have known a Truther, should have heard the crinkling tinfoil

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:11 PM

40. Oh shit, you must be a belieber. You must think you know how they did it.

Go ahead and try and explain it to me, as if I were a 10-year-old.

How do you belieb that they defeated the airspace and then covered up how they did it?

I won't hold my breath.

Beliebers just belieb, they don't have to think, or have things make any sense, at all.

It's all make-belieb to them.



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Response to magdrop (Reply #40)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:45 PM

48. Who is 'they' ?

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Response to Grebbid (Reply #48)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:18 PM

53. Exactly!



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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:28 PM

46. Go talk to Richard Cheney about that.

He was directing things that day.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:07 PM

51. So,

 

Does that give the current Islamic world the right to kill people it disagrees with?

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Response to Winston (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:05 PM

34. Anyone who was tortured was a victim

Including the children at Abu Ghraib raped with broomsticks, and the estimated 25% of detainees who had no connection to terrorism or terrorist organization, but who were fingered by well paid informers who DID have connections to Al-Quaeda.

Oh, and the Constitution and the Rule of Law were victims too.

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Response to Winston (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:13 PM

42. They weren't always "Islamist extremists".

Maybe we should stay out of their countries, stop propping up abusive governments, or stop selling weapons to every single fucking middle east country.

Maybe they are extremists because they are finally tired of bull shit.

We sell weapons to:
Egypt
Israel
Jordan
Turkey
Bahrain
UAE
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Lebanon
Iraq
Syrian militias
Kurdish militias
And Iran still has pre Ayatollah weapons and our new Drone to boot

Maybe we are the extremists and these people are freedom fighters and want us out?

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:03 AM

9. I guess we'll agree to disagree

That is what Leadership looks like.

Was Bill Clinton lying when he said Saddam had WMD?

Was Hillary? Kerry?

What was Syria gassing people with?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:22 AM

11. You do realize that much of those WMD and the technology to make then came from the US?

That is not what leadership looks like. That is what arrogance and intimidation looks like.
Clinton knew Saddam had WMD because he also knew the Reagan Administration gave those weapons to him. Donald Rumsfeld himself delivered those gifts to Saddam.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:27 AM

32. No Much of it did not




Look to such european firms as-

Karl Kolb Gmbh built the factories/labs- http://www.chemeurope.com/en/companies/23772/karl-kolb-gmbh-co-kg.html
NPI in Frankfurt, Germany- http://www.chemeurope.com/en/companies/10909/npi-electronic-gmbh.html
KBS in the Netherlands- http://www.csmonitor.com/1988/1213/zchem1.html

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:10 PM

52. So Saddam has WMDs when Clinton says so,

 

But doesn't when Bush says so?

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Response to Bo Diddley (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:29 PM

54. Correct.

Saddam destroyed them, but did not properly do the paperwork. (International records thingy)
Also, those weapons had a maximum shelf life of about 10 years. So they were still mostly good when Clinton won the presidency, but were long expired when he left office.
That fact alone messed up the neo-con plans for Iraq big time. But when Bush was appointed, and they got back in power, the neo-cons went ahead as if the preceding eight years had not happened and they acted as it the chemical weapons were still good. They knew all this and knew they had expired, but lied through their teeth to the world to get their war on.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:32 PM

56. Wow,

 

thanks for sharing your delusions with us. Now take your meds. Please.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #54)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:33 PM

57. Oh and your rank hypocricy, thanks for displaying that for us too.

 

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Response to Bo Diddley (Reply #57)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:54 PM

60. What hypocrisy?

Hey, you ask, I told you the truth. Sorry if it doesn't fit Fox News, but that is what really happened.

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Response to ol geezer (Reply #60)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:01 PM

61. If you say so.

 

Your delusions are noted. I think the psychiatric ward is looking for you.

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Response to Bo Diddley (Reply #61)

Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:37 AM

65. Do you even know what you are talking about?

I ask again, what hypocrisy are you on about?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:04 AM

15. Did Bill invade Iraq?

Did Iraq have anything to do with 9/11?

No.

Cheney and Bush lied us into war.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:11 AM

19. Nope

They just didn't tell you all the reason. But congress knew and signed off on it. So it was a perfectly legal war and no one will be charged with war crimes.

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Response to Blade53 (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:15 AM

21. Does not make Bush and Cheney any less than the war criminals ...

... they are.

I do get a kick out of the right wing folks who pretend to care about the US Constitution, embracing the Cheney administration's actions in Iraq.

Lie us into a war. Have it run on and on for ~10 years. Cost a few trillion. Torture prisoner.

A right wing legacy.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:22 AM

24. No more

Then any other leader of a superpower nation......goes with the title.

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Response to Blade53 (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:24 AM

26. "Other countries do it, so we can do it!"

Again, I enjoy how fast the RW throws away the US Constitution when it suits them.

So much for America being exceptional, right?


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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #26)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:33 AM

28. GWB

Had approval to go to war from congress.....so how was he "throwing away" the Constitution?

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #21)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:30 PM

55. How about you Joe?

 

Convicting people unilaterally with no proof? I've seen no conviction or even court case against either Bush or Cheney, yet you continue to call them war criminals.

You are a hypocrite. You accuse others of not caring about the Constitution, and in the same breath advocate completely ignoring due process.

when did you become judge, jury and exectutioner Joe>?

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:18 AM

22. He didn't have the Sack

Actually Clinton did Bomb Bagdad in '98. The stated reason was to degrade Saddams WMD

Look it up

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #22)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:22 AM

25. He wasn't dumb enough to invade.

Oh right ... I'm talking to folks who think one airstrike is just like a 10 year invasion and occupation based on lies about 9/11.

Typical for the RW military experts.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #25)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:30 AM

27. Well luckily

The WTC Towers were only damaged by the Truck Bomb Al Qeada blew up in the Basement

Clinton treated an act of War as a Crime. I'm sure the Terrorists found that snortworthy!

They made sure it came down the next time

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:34 AM

29. Because Bush was too busy clearing brush on his fake ranch.

Al Qaeda killed about 6 Americans on US soil under Clinton, and about 3000 while Bush was in charge.

Al Qaeda knew exactly when to attack ... with GW in charge of America's National Security, they knew they'd be successful.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:01 AM

30. They knew to attack

Because Clinton would tolerate terrorist acts (USS Cole anyone?). They were convinced we were a paper tiger

They misunderestimated W's response, he knew we were at war. When he apologized for using the word "Crusade" in a speech I knew he was just gonna treat the symptoms (Al Qeada) and the Taliban and not cure the disease (Islam)

Even if Fauxcohontas gets elected Islam is going to be at War with us.

Asymmetricly but still at War


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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:35 PM

58. Bush's response was to invade the wrong country.

Which they very much appreciated.

You want a crusade, go fight it.

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #58)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:50 PM

62. Too Old So I sent my Son, a CAV Trooper, 2nd BCT, 101st ABN Patrol Base Thrasher, Iraq

I feel like I'm watching the Nazi's rise in 1930's Berlin and I know how its going to end and Millions are going to Die

I'm watching my Fellow Countrymen tell Me its none of our Business what Hitler does

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:02 AM

14. Facist Sociaopath said what?

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Response to JoePolitics (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:08 AM

17. Fascist Socipath said

Open Borders!

Even though I'm Half Black I'm gonna throw my own Black People under the bus!

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #17)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:05 PM

39. You apparently have no clue what the word fascism means.

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:12 PM

41. Democrat Authoritarianism

Is just as Fascistic as Right wing Nationalism

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:14 PM

43. Yea, authoritarianism, another words you obviously don't understand the meaning of.

I wish you folks would have to live under some actual authoritarianism, it would educate you and then you wouldn't throw around such words in such a inaccurate fashion.

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:21 PM

44. Youre from DU aren't you

Amiright?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 01:23 PM

45. I'm from Ohio. But thanks for asking.

Now get a fucking dictionary and study that shit before you continue to post. It will work out better for you.

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #45)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:01 PM

49. Oh look

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #39)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 05:38 PM

59. He wants a full on war on Islam.

Says so above.

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:07 AM

16. Cheney is enough

to make me want to opt out of being an organ donor.

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Response to Tarzan (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:11 AM

18. Are you Ron Ely, or Johnny Weismuller?

And did Cheetah really live to be 80?

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #18)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:14 AM

20. Are you Wyatt Earp

or Doc Holliday?

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Response to Tarzan (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:20 AM

23. No Dude, I'm Maverick

Talk to me Goose

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