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Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:52 AM

What brought down the WTC

I was surprised by the number of responses to a si,iliar thread.

So now I am curious what this board believes. I tried to distill the other theories down as best as i could. Please feel fee to add your own if i missed something you feel is important.
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The impact and subsequent fires cause by the planes led to the eventual collapse of WTC 1 and 2.
12 (86%)
Steel can't melt at the temperature that jet fuel burns at. WTC 1 and 2 were brought down by a controlled demolition using nano-thermite.
2 (14%)
Nice try Dumbass, you didn't mention WTC 7.
0 (0%)
What's a WTC?
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def_con5 Sep 2016 OP
gonzoland Sep 2016 #1
foia Sep 2016 #3
Arne Oker Sep 2016 #5
Post removed Sep 2016 #10
BuzzClik Sep 2016 #12
It Guy Sep 2016 #14
BuzzClik Sep 2016 #15
It Guy Sep 2016 #26
Model10RB Sep 2016 #27
oflguy Sep 2016 #21
Arne Oker Sep 2016 #32
Arne Oker Sep 2016 #43
gonzoland Sep 2016 #28
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2016 #39
foia Sep 2016 #55
Myriel Sep 2016 #52
foia Sep 2016 #54
oflguy Sep 2016 #7
It Guy Sep 2016 #13
oflguy Sep 2016 #17
It Guy Sep 2016 #30
oflguy Sep 2016 #41
Scary Red Sep 2016 #2
Arne Oker Sep 2016 #6
It Guy Sep 2016 #4
joefriday6 Sep 2016 #16
It Guy Sep 2016 #31
joefriday6 Sep 2016 #46
PrimeCustodian Sep 2016 #48
Qukid Sep 2016 #8
opspec2c Sep 2016 #9
Greenbeanbob Sep 2016 #19
Jack Burton Sep 2016 #22
fszwfnj Sep 2016 #23
BuzzClik Sep 2016 #11
The Big Red Machine Sep 2016 #18
Greenbeanbob Sep 2016 #20
It Guy Sep 2016 #34
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2016 #51
Greenbeanbob Sep 2016 #53
Arne Oker Sep 2016 #33
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2016 #40
Strange Luck Sep 2016 #24
DavesNotHere Sep 2016 #49
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 #25
It Guy Sep 2016 #36
wonderwarthog Sep 2016 #38
Banshee 3 Actual Sep 2016 #42
Mouth of Chaos Sep 2016 #29
It Guy Sep 2016 #37
joefriday6 Sep 2016 #47
John Q Citizen Sep 2016 #35
Arne Oker Sep 2016 #44
The Center Holds Sep 2016 #45
Duke Lacrosse Sep 2016 #50

Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:04 AM

1. Yes. WTC 7 . what really happened?

and why was NORAD down?
someone Let if Happen ?
www.ae911truth.org/

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Response to gonzoland (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:31 AM

3. WTC7 - what really happened.

Fires ran unchecked for several hours causing loss of structural integrity and eventual failure.

NORAD had nothing to do with it.

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Response to foia (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:45 AM

5. Kudos to you!

One thing that we unreservedly agree on!

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Response to Post removed (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:20 AM

12. Really, Gracie? That's your angle?

Holy shit.

You've posted some complicated stuff on this site that, if you truly understood it, would be fargin' impressive. All undone with a single post. Well played.

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Response to BuzzClik (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:39 AM

14. The trouble with dealing with ingrates, there's not enough time or desire on my part to overcome

their steep learning curve. I've literally spent several hundreds of hours studying 911 from thousands of sources.
I dare say that most of ignoramuses freely commenting on this subject who believe the official lie have never done any research and are nothing more than the go along to get along simpletons because they are not willing to devote the time and cannot possibly understand technical material.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:45 AM

15. Well, Mr. IT Guy, as 9/11 was happening, I was in a break room filled with civil engineers.

The television was showing it all. The engineers as a body, advised, "Get them out of those towers! They're coming down."

I was in a room with hundred of years of cumulative knowledge, put to use on structures and materials every day.

So, yeah. I'll go with the pros.

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Response to BuzzClik (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:15 AM

26. That's BS!

Of course any person with an inkling of intelligence would know to evacuate. Not because the towers would collapse, but simply because of the fire.

"They're coming down"? That's bullshit. There has never been a steel structure high rise coming down due to fire prior to 911 and as civil engineers they'd have known better.

The towers were designed to take a strike by an airliner. That was factored in to construction.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/compare/fires.html



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Response to It Guy (Reply #26)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:18 AM

27. "The towers were designed to take a strike by an airliner."

An airliner traveling just above stall speed, full flaps, as in final approach to LGA or JFK.

Those things were throttled up for the attack.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:56 AM

21. Educate us, guy

Summarize what you think happened.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:08 AM

32. I was bombarded by the nonsense on another forum for years

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:08 AM

43. I see that It Guy's reply to me was hidden

As was my reply to that reply. I must say that I disagree with the decision to hide that post. I am man enough to take a few insults, and think that I can show how baseless they are.

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Response to gonzoland (Reply #28)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:39 AM

39. Thats Crap, the Company my uncle owned sent trucks immediately

I wasnt even called into duty and I arrived there

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Response to gonzoland (Reply #28)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:16 PM

55. That's evidence that WTC1&2 collapsed and filled the area with rubble

That needed to be gotten rid of in order to facilitate rescue efforts and the search for the trapped. It had nothing to do with WTC7.

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Response to foia (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 02:10 PM

52. Are you kidding?

WTC7 was chock full of stuff that THEY didn't want you to see - Obama's real birth certificate and Muslim Brotherhood membership card, Hillary's health records, etc.

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Response to Myriel (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:12 PM

54. And the secret plans for ObamaCare!

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Response to gonzoland (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:50 AM

7. Jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning

And an understanding of how the towers fell involves an understanding of how the WTC towers were built using trusses supported by the outer shell of the buildings with no interior structural support.

The other building? You'd collapse too if two 100+ story buildings collapsed next to you. I'm surprised more buildings did not collapse.

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Response to oflguy (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:26 AM

13. Where'd you pull those facts out of? Let me guess, you've extensively studied the structures

and still don't know what the he'll you're talking about.

I posted this to the original, but here it is again, especially for you! You have no idea what you're talking about, you suck down whatever bullshit you've heard, now you're an expert and freely shovel the shit to more idiots.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:47 AM

17. I did not add that some interior support was offered by the elevator shafts

Other than that, what did I say that is inaccurate?

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Response to oflguy (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:59 AM

30. You didn't comprehend what was said.

He said that there were 47 steel columns for the center core of each building and these were the main supporting structures.

The elevator shafts were built around these supporting columns.

Nowhere did he say that the elevator shafts provided any support.

He showed pictures of the massive center core steel box beams.

Other than that, what did I say that is inaccurate?. Really? "...no interior structural support".

If you want to play with me, you need to tighten up your game.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #30)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:58 AM

41. The interior support was taken out by the airplane

And the main support for the floors was the exterior shell of the building which was gone on one side due to the impact.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:15 AM

2. Did FDR know a Japanese fleet was sitting outside Pearl Harbor?

The grassy knoll...

Some things we may never know for sure.

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Response to Scary Red (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:48 AM

6. I've seen the grassy knoll

I sure wouldn't have tried to assassinate the President from there, not if I didn't want to be noticed by anyone, like the people gathered around the motorcade route.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:42 AM

4. Wow! I didn't realize so many had bought the "official" story, hook-line-and sinker!

Suckers.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:47 AM

16. That was the beginning of the end of this country.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:07 AM

31. The beginning happened when this country started churning out non-critical thinkers by the millions.

This was by design and they are incapable of self education.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:35 AM

46. I'm referring to the specific type of non-critical thinkers that answered the first of the choices

above. By no stretch of the imagination did WT One or Two collapse because of the heat and/or impact of the burning planes. And by recognizing the degree of non-critical thinking of the majority of the population using this poll as an example of the problem, our civilization ended in that there was much more than a perception of the population being non-critical thinkers--it actually exists. Our country began to end way before this, though. It ended when the people running the country cared only about wealth and power--not the country in the slightest. The absolute end has now started, critical or non-critical thinkers notwithstanding. It will no longer make any difference. I just hope when the end comes it does so quickly and no trace is left of what a disgusting group of people we turned out to be in total, even though some were all right.

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Response to joefriday6 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:07 PM

48. huh............not quite yet, Joe!

First, this country has to ban 'sarcasm' in WH, and then and only then it's the beginning of the 'end' of this country.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:55 AM

8. We know it couldn't have been airplanes because

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Response to Qukid (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:06 AM

9. A classic!

That's Hall Of F(Sh)ame material, right there.



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Response to Qukid (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:53 AM

19. OMG!!

Did someone really believe the garbage in that video? I bet they believed Rosie O'Donnell too.
Fools.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:02 AM

22. That is right up there with the scientific rigor used by the global warming doomers.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:04 AM

23. I remember that post. I participated trying to educate those nitwits

It was useless.

Spooked911 was great fun. He has all sort of weird stuff roaming around his head.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:18 AM

11. In remembrance of September 11, 2001, we bring you the darkest side of ignorance.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:48 AM

18. Bush/Cheney negligence should have been a choice here

 

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Response to The Big Red Machine (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:55 AM

20. As well as..

.. a couple of airplanes hijacked by some fucked-up muslims.

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Response to Greenbeanbob (Reply #20)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:15 AM

34. ...with box cutters and just assuming that the (usually) ex military pilots of these planes were

afflicted with shrunken gonads including neutered male passengers. That's what the simpletons believe and there's nothing in the world that will move them out of their fairy tale.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #34)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:25 PM

51. How many Suicide Hijackings were there prior to 9-11? I know of only a very few less than 7

Most hijackings prior to this fit into a few categories

Were for Political reasons (''Release my imprisoned Comrades'')

Were to flee (''this plane is going to Cuba'')

Were for Money (''Give us 20 million and you get these people back'')

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Response to It Guy (Reply #34)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 02:12 PM

53. Well

Keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night.

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Response to The Big Red Machine (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:12 AM

33. From someone who never voted for them

That would have been their worst crime.

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Response to The Big Red Machine (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:43 AM

40. Or Clinton

Bill Clinton, Hours Before 9/11 Attacks: 'I Could Have Killed' Osama bin Laden
Hours before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, former President Bill Clinton told an audience in Australia about his missed chance to kill attack mastermind Osama bin Laden, according to audio released this week.

Clinton was speaking at a business meeting in Melbourne when the topic turned to terrorism.

“I’m just saying, you know, if I were Osama bin Laden ... He’s a very smart guy. I spent a lot of time thinking about him. And I nearly got him once,” Clinton said in the audio, which was recorded by former Liberal Party head Michael Kroger and aired by Sky News.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/bill-clinton-hours-911-attacks-killed-osama-bin/story?id=24801422

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:08 AM

24. Jesus did it, to stop gay marriage. He was getting bored with hurricanes.

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Response to Strange Luck (Reply #24)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:10 PM

49. Hurricanes are caused by George Bush's weather machine. n/t

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:11 AM

25. I think

Last edited Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)

What was STORED in bulding 7 is interesting, to say the least.

" The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires, and the only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

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Response to wonderwarthog (Reply #25)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:20 AM

36. Uncontrolled fires? There are fire codes that mandate sprinkler fire suppression systems.

The main water lines would have resided in the core of the building with probable redundancy.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:30 AM

38. ...



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Response to It Guy (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:04 AM

42. Sprinkler mains cannot put out a fire by themselves

and that IF the Mains werent damaged

Here a FDNY firefighter mentions no Hydrant pressure-

http://www.webcitation.org/5IuRwM61d

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:47 AM

29. However...

...never let a crisis go to waste.

The Hegelian Dialectic and Synergy.

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Response to Mouth of Chaos (Reply #29)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:23 AM

37. Problem > Reaction > Solution. They fall for it every time and none of them will bother

to educate themselves on what it means, where it came from and how it's used and by whom.

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Response to Mouth of Chaos (Reply #29)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:42 AM

47. Well, I can't tell whether you support those two factors creating 9-11. I do. Whether it

was done by the USA or a false flag is what I'm not sure about. As dumb as the neocons have turned out to be, I wonder if they were even able to do a Hegelian Dialectic let alone employ Synergy.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 10:18 AM

35. It wasn't airplanes nor was it high explosives.

It was some formerly unknown technology that created the obvious lack of debris at ground zero just after the event. Whatever it was, it wasn't radioactive and it wasn't hot in a high temperature sense. And whatever it was, sure created a heck of a lot of dust. Not ash, dust.


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Response to John Q Citizen (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:16 AM

44. From the site of a scientist and sane conservative

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/911NutPhysics.HTM
http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/911NutPhysics0.HTM

Deals with all kinds of questions concerning 911. But as he says, it is doubtful that much of this will convince the conspiracy theory enthusiasts.

BTW, although I disagree a lot with this guy, I highly recommend his overall site. He talks about a lot of things, takes those intellectual rigor and critical thinking things seriously, is not afraid to slam nutjobs and sloppy thinkers on both the Left and the Right, and is very entertaining.

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Response to def_con5 (Original post)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:20 AM

45. Thank you for this public service.

It lets me know who to avoid.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #45)

Sun Sep 11, 2016, 12:14 PM

50. Indeed. It allows the fuckwits to identify themselves.

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