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Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:29 PM

FactChecking the First Debate

This ought to stir up a lot of debate in itself.

Clinton wrongly said that the only tax returns that anyone has seen from Trump “showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax.” Trump paid federal taxes in three out of five years in the 1970s.
Trump was right in saying that Ford is moving its small-car division overseas, but wrong in claiming that as a result, thousands of jobs are leaving Michigan and Ohio. Ford’s CEO insists not a single job will be lost in the U.S.
Trump left the false impression that the Obama administration failed to disclose the full amount paid to Iran in January to settle a long outstanding claim.
Clinton said Trump thinks “climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese.” Trump denied it. In 2012, he tweeted that the Chinese had created global warming but later said he was joking.
Trump claimed without evidence that the Clinton campaign in 2008 was pushing “very hard” the false story that President Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii.
Trump claimed “the record shows” he was opposed to the Iraq War before it started, but there is no record of that.
Trump said “murders are up” in New York City since ending stop-and-frisk policies, while Clinton said “crime, including murders” is down. Both are correct.
Clinton claimed she had said she “hoped” the Trans-Pacific Partnership would be a “good deal,” when she originally supported it. But at the time, Clinton said it “sets the gold standard.”
Clinton said “independent experts” concluded that Trump’s plans would cause a loss of 3.5 million jobs while hers would create 10 million jobs. But Trump has released a new tax plan since that report, and the projected job creation under Clinton is 3.2 million more than what would be added under current law.
Clinton said Trump’s businesses had filed for bankruptcy six times; he said it was four. Clinton is right.

Much, much more commentary and analyses @ http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-first-debate/

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okletstalk Sep 2016 #1
Immacolata Sep 2016 #2
mrwordsworth Sep 2016 #3
TheyLostTheirForums Sep 2016 #4
Letmypeoplevote Sep 2016 #5

Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:52 PM

1. Hillary was also right when she accused Trump of not showing his tax returns because

they would show he hadn't paid taxes. Trump himself confirmed it right there at the debate by saying it was because he was "smart".

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:05 PM

2. Appreciate your honesty.

Most of his supporters, especially on this board, would not post anything about him that is the slightest bit negative. I can see that you respect the truth and for that I respect you.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:09 PM

3. It's a cancer that both sides have

 

They are X or Y team so they have to attack the opposing team and cheerlead for their own. It's not worked out well for us.

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:11 PM

4. Hillary sucks.

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Response to sargentodiaz (Original post)

Wed Sep 28, 2016, 02:56 PM

5. Donald Trump OUT OF CONTROL Lying at Debate

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