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Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:32 PM

Just watched crooked Clinton and Liawatha Warren in N.H.

All the promises to the middle class which she won't do one thing about.

She promises to rebuild infrastructure- so didn't Obama- where are the results?

This nation collects over $100 billion a year in road use fees and yet we can't fix the roads without massive new taxes????

She wants to invest in new manufacturing, then tax them to death so they leave the country!

I just wish she would tell the truth and admit she is part of the Davos crowd that wants a 1 world govt..

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Reply Just watched crooked Clinton and Liawatha Warren in N.H. (Original post)
nolidad Oct 2016 OP
Fireant16 Oct 2016 #1
NavyBrat Oct 2016 #2
Grumpy Pickle Oct 2016 #6
NavyBrat Oct 2016 #16
Qukid Oct 2016 #3
Boston Oct 2016 #8
meanitt Oct 2016 #52
Boston Oct 2016 #54
meanitt Oct 2016 #55
Boston Oct 2016 #56
meanitt Oct 2016 #57
Boston Oct 2016 #58
nolidad Oct 2016 #47
D.Libby Oct 2016 #4
DoDaMan Oct 2016 #9
Docbroke Oct 2016 #5
Strange Luck Oct 2016 #12
nolidad Oct 2016 #21
Strange Luck Oct 2016 #25
nolidad Oct 2016 #46
Docbroke Oct 2016 #30
DoDaMan Oct 2016 #13
Docbroke Oct 2016 #26
DoDaMan Oct 2016 #32
bfox74 Oct 2016 #42
Docbroke Oct 2016 #49
_eek Oct 2016 #50
bfox74 Oct 2016 #66
HAL9000 Oct 2016 #7
Aquila Oct 2016 #10
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #31
bfox74 Oct 2016 #43
Jond414 Oct 2016 #48
Boston Oct 2016 #11
DoDaMan Oct 2016 #14
nolidad Oct 2016 #22
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #28
nolidad Oct 2016 #69
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #72
nolidad Oct 2016 #75
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #29
nolidad Oct 2016 #59
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #61
nolidad Oct 2016 #68
Horsefeathers Oct 2016 #15
Tex Oct 2016 #17
Banshee 3 Actual Oct 2016 #19
Crazy D Oct 2016 #20
nolidad Oct 2016 #23
bfox74 Oct 2016 #18
nolidad Oct 2016 #24
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #27
Sardis Oct 2016 #33
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #34
Muddling Through Oct 2016 #35
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #36
Muddling Through Oct 2016 #37
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #38
Muddling Through Oct 2016 #39
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #40
Muddling Through Oct 2016 #41
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #64
_eek Oct 2016 #53
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #60
_eek Oct 2016 #62
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #63
_eek Oct 2016 #65
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #67
_eek Oct 2016 #70
Moe Zarella Oct 2016 #71
_eek Oct 2016 #73
bfox74 Oct 2016 #45
bfox74 Oct 2016 #44
_eek Oct 2016 #51
nolidad Oct 2016 #76
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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:37 PM

1. Time to retire hillary....you've had many chances and have failed. nt

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Response to Fireant16 (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:44 PM

2. And this would have been the year to do just that. But ...

 

you kids decided to run an inarticulate, comically uninformed, vulgar talking yam for President; so Hillary it will have to be.

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Response to NavyBrat (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 02:00 PM

6. Yam.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:06 PM

16. Squirrel!

 

(Did your random word generator just kick in?)

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:51 PM

3. Jury results

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Just watched crooked Clinton and Liawatha Warren in N.H.
http://www.discussionist.com/10151076663

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This post is uncivil, off-topic, offensive, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Liawatha" is an attempt to smear Elizabeth Warren because of her native American heritage. This is RACISM.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of Discussionist members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:54 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I have more Native American blood than she does, and I'm not offended in the least. She should have never made the claim.
btw - avoid the caps/shouting
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Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Warren should be smeared, she's earned it.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No, it's a perfectly good smear and has absolutely nothing to do with racism.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:44 PM

8. Warren IS NOT a Native American. The Boston Globe had to retract that claim

Her only "proof" is a family newletter.

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Response to Boston (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:42 AM

52. What's wrong with believing the family newsletter?

 

Or are cons no longer the party of "family values" anymore?

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Response to meanitt (Reply #52)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:39 AM

54. Ok. I'll write up a family newsletter saying my kids are black and get affirmative action too! nt

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Response to Boston (Reply #54)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:43 AM

55. You can't tell the difference between black people and Native American ancestry from over 100+

 

years ago?

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Response to meanitt (Reply #55)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:45 AM

56. And the point is, the Boston Globe had to RETRACT the claim that she was Native American

And you can't follow a comparison?

Minorties that get Affirmative Action, what difference does it matter what minority I pick in my example?

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Response to Boston (Reply #56)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:34 AM

57. The point is that only you and that loser clown Scott Brown

 

really care about it.

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Response to meanitt (Reply #57)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:46 AM

58. Not true. Liberals SHOULD care. If you agree with Affirmative Action, you're ok if some scam it?

Harvard Law proclaiming her the first minority professor meant a REAL minority lost out.

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Response to Qukid (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:34 AM

47. Thanks for posting the results.

To the alerter. If Sen. Warren had Indian heritage, I would not call her lie a watha. but I live in Mass. and I read the whole sordid affair. She is lying about her Indian heritage.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:55 PM

4. 2 awesome women

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Response to D.Libby (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:46 PM

9. If you like liars they are perfect.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:56 PM

5. Great name calling!

 

is name calling one of the core principles of conservatism??

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:47 PM

12. It is of Christianity

And also, I think the poster forgets there is something called "Congress". If they didn't pass an infrastructure deal the president can't sign it. And somehow that translates to blame the president.

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Response to Strange Luck (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:57 PM

21. You wouldn't know anything of Christianity even if it came and bit you.

Calling a crook a crook is not name calling and calling a woman a liar for lying about her heritage is not name calling.

Where has the $100 billion a year that is designated to fix roads and bridges gone each year? The libbies keep telling us we have a crumbling infrastructure- so what did Obama spend the money on the last 8 years?

And Congress does not need to pass a law for monies annually appropriated through the use of gas taxes and federal road use fees.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #21)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 06:44 PM

25. "And Congress does not need to pass a law for monies annually appropriated"

Yeah, except that thing called 'funding gap' and let's not forget the states and their jobs on it all (You do know there is a ton of money being spent on infrastructure right now, right? It just isn't enough)

Has a breakdown of which states spend what on such projects:
http://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/its-time-for-states-to-invest-in-infrastructure

And there was something passed by congress:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009#Infrastructure_investment

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Response to Strange Luck (Reply #25)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:31 AM

46. There's funding gaps in lots of govt. places- corruption is not an excuse for fleecing.

Yeah, except that thing called 'funding gap' and let's not forget the states and their jobs on it all (You do know there is a ton of money being spent on infrastructure right now, right? It just isn't enough)

Yes $100 billion a year in designated tax collections

And there was something passed by congress:

And where did the nearly $175 billion for infrastructure (on top of the yearly $100 billion ) go?

Just remember they want to raise taxes from people and corps. for more infra money. they also want to raise taxes for a dozen other things. When taken all together, Businesses won't invest in new plants or technology- they will be taxed to death. Or they will take the manufacturing to a different country not so hostile to business.

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Response to Strange Luck (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:16 PM

30. You are wrong

 

I've discovered that childish name calling is a core conservative principle. They all seem to do it....

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:48 PM

13. Well deserved for a lying woman like Fauxahontas.

She got paid though. Criminal, just like Cankles.

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Response to DoDaMan (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 06:59 PM

26. So name calling is indeed

 

A core principle of conservatism..,?

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #26)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:33 PM

32. And a corp principle to liberalism is lying one's ass off...indeed.

Liberalism love them some liars. Actually worship at the feet of them.

Hands up don't shoot
I am Native American
You can keep your Doctor
etc.
etc
etc.

You guys lap that stuff up like Monica.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:52 AM

42. To the blind it's name calling, to the seeing its accurate labeling.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #42)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:24 AM

49. Name calling is a core principle of conservatism

 

Sad, but true.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #49)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:21 AM

50. I notice repetition and inanity to be liberal core traits.

"Goo goo ga ga".. It is funny at first.. Like Family Guy, and then it hits ya

Oh! They're one trick ponies!
Just one gambit to play, and play it to death you will.

So, Doc.. I think it's time you find another horse.. cuz this ones all flogged out.

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Response to Docbroke (Reply #49)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:14 PM

66. What a frickin' riot!!!!

The liberals here do no less name calling than anybody else, and most likely more.

You crack me up!

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:39 PM

7. "She promises to rebuild infrastructure- so didn't Obama- where are the results?"

Why not ask the Republican controlled Senate and the Republican controlled Congress?

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Response to HAL9000 (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:47 PM

10. Why not check your history- 2009-2011

The One Hundred Eleventh United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011...

Senate Majority: Democratic
House Majority: Democratic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress

This is an inconvenient little FACT that many D's pretend doesn't exist. Understandably, of course, because it gets in the way of their little "narrative"

Another fact: During this (D) controlled Congress (the opposite of PROgress) the (D)'s had SINGLE PAYER ADVOCATES ARRESTED AT HEARINGS. Never going to let this be forgotten. EVER.

The (D)'a got played by a player- a liar, fraud and clown that makes Bubba look like an amateur.

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Response to Aquila (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:19 PM

31. The problem with your narrative is that the Democrats couldn't do anything because

 

the obstructionist Senate filibustered everything.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:53 AM

43. Thank god for that or we'd really have a mess.

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Response to Aquila (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:01 AM

48. Yes but.....

Clown lives matter.

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Response to HAL9000 (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:47 PM

11. Obama "Turns out there were no shovel ready jobs! Ha ha ha!"

Thanks for the billions America, I gave it all to the banks that screwed you over!

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Response to HAL9000 (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:49 PM

14. They were too busy improving the economy.

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Response to HAL9000 (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 05:04 PM

22. Why not ask POTUS

That is already pre designated monies and does not congressional bills to rebuild roads.

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Response to nolidad (Reply #22)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:07 PM

28. Just how does the president stop the work from getting done?

 

You know that Congress has the power to force the president to spend allocated money.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 05:51 AM

69. The fuel tax money is under the auspices of the DOT

They do not need congressional approval to spend the current streams of revenue that come in. That gets allocated totally under the discretion of the executive branch through the DOT

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Response to nolidad (Reply #69)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 02:29 PM

72. So can you show us that they aren't spending the money? And you do know that Congress

 

can force the president to spend money that's been allocated.

Looks like once again you are making this all up.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #72)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 03:51 PM

75. ?????????

72. So can you show us that they aren't spending the money? And you do know that Congress

can force the president to spend money that's been allocated.

DOT has been spending the money. President can veto.

But what I want to know is that since Obama has been POTUS, with the annual taxes and then the stiimulus money, over $900 billion has been collected for road and infrastructure repair.
what has been doen with nearly $1 Trillion dollars of taxpayers money??

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Response to nolidad (Reply #22)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:12 PM

29. Looks like Obama is trying to get the Republicans to fund infrastructure rebuilding

 

but no go for the conservatives that want that money to go to the 5 big banks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/02/us/obama-urges-funding-for-infrastructure-projects.html?_r=0

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #29)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:30 PM

59. Yeah too bad he didn't use all that stimulus money for all these shovel ready jobs years ago!!!

State bridges and state highways are the responsibility of the states.

No- Hillary is the one who is going to funnel the money to the banks!

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Response to nolidad (Reply #59)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:31 PM

61. Where is the money you are speaking of now?

 

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #61)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 05:49 AM

68. Wish I knew

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 03:50 PM

15. Saw it too

Pocahontas sure is obsessed with Trump. He is living rent free in her head!

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:13 PM

17. I don't know why you guys keep calling her crooked.

 

She seems to shimmy pretty well.


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Response to Tex (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:25 PM

19. For this thread....

this makes me smile...

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:33 PM

20. That explains last night

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Response to Tex (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 05:05 PM

23. Love it!!!!!!!

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 04:18 PM

18. It's not Liawatha, it's Fauxchahontas

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 05:06 PM

24. and Chief Full-o-bull

I am from Mass. I know well about her faux heritage.

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Response to nolidad (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:05 PM

27. "Liawatha"? What a disgusting, racist thing to say.

 

Why didn't Obama fix the infrastructure? Maybe, just maybe the Republican Congress wouldn't give him a bill to sign. Giving subsidies to Exxon is more important to the Republicans.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:38 PM

33. Of course none of that is racist!

You're obviously the over politically correct skinny jeans McHipsterbeard that Trump has warned us all about!

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Response to Sardis (Reply #33)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:42 PM

34. Conservatives just can't help spewing racist and sexist remarks. They don't even know

 

better.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #27)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:47 PM

35. Racist?

I don't think you know what that word means.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #35)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 07:56 PM

36. I am not surprised that you don't understand that being racist isn't cool.

 

Using the First People's names as slurs is racist. Don't expect a conservative to understand, Donald says fat girls are pigs.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #36)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:02 PM

37. I not surprised that you cannot define the term "racist".

Pro-tip - Criticizing someone who falsely claims Native American heritage is not racist. Don't expect a Liberal to understand that "RACISM!!!" is not like ketchup; it cannot be applied at will to everything.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #37)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:23 PM

38. I have no problem with your criticism but I do have a problem with your mocking

 

the First People with your racist names.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #38)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:25 PM

39. Still cannot define "racism"?

Why am I not surprised.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #39)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:12 PM

40. You guys are masters of deflection. Racist posts and you want me to define racism.

 

Why don't you take the initiative and define racism? Why don't you justify why you should be able to mock American Indians.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #40)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:45 AM

41. No deflection.

You claimed a post criticizing Warren's claim of Native American heritage is racist, but cannot define the term. Typical liberal, cry"racist" anytime you don't like a comment.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #41)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:56 PM

64. Lies, lies, lies. I never made any such statement. I criticized a post that was

 

trying to disparage Sen Warren by calling her a name that was mocking the First People of America.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #40)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:02 AM

53. I thought it was First Peoples..

You can't even stay in your own PC rules.
How the fuck are the rest of us to keep up?

Take it up with Warren, she is the one abusing Indians by appropriation.




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Response to _eek (Reply #53)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:30 PM

60. Calling her racists names is par for the course for conservatives. Always trying to justify

 

racist behavior.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #60)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:58 PM

62. Yet another one

yip yip yip

In love with the way your lords boots taste.

You are now more responsible for the racism you see around you than most conservatives here..

Well done, you must be proud.
Stop spreading hate and maybe things will change.

You can't though.

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Response to _eek (Reply #62)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:42 PM

63. Wow. Speaking of hate.

 

I do hate racism and misogyny. I hate when conservatives are more interested in giving my tax money to the rich fat cats and then cutting safety nets. Throwing mental health patients into prison instead of hospitals. I hate those that send our children to war for profits for the rich fat cats and then ignoring our vets.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #63)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:15 PM

65. First thing you need to realize

vets are not victims..

Most of us knew exactly what we are in for. War is a hard gig.

Second all your silly bleating is all about you, you like most every Liberal are selfish and silly.

Hate? you don't have the depth to hate, you just yip yip yip and show all of us your arrogant ignorance.

Here's a news flash, you paid for my wars.. And you will continue to. So again, nothing but yip yip yip.

Enjoy your bloody hands Moe..


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Response to _eek (Reply #65)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:10 PM

67. And you like every conservative lower yourselves into the mire by your constant

 

attempts at insult. When I am volunteering at the local foodbank, there are never any conservatives there. They chose to buy material garbage instead of helping their neighbors. Conservatives are the ones that cut safety nets for the poor, our vets, our seniors, etc. Conservatives think it's more important to give our tax money to Wall Street.

Your post is a great example of bullying. I have encountered bullies all my life and they don't bother me because deep down they are all cowards. Give it your best shot.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #67)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:11 AM

70. Nor conservative.

And I don't need to laundry list my good deeds in a futile attempt to be a good person.
And again.. all about you.

yip yip yip.
I am disgusted by your abuse of the truly needy, using them as props for your obvious hunger for affirmation. "when I am volunteering at the foodbank" oh, yeah right, I am sure.

Bubi, you are right out of central casting.

I am beginning to think you are another RW troll.

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Response to _eek (Reply #70)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 02:27 PM

71. This is a typical response from a RW'er. I point out that I never see any Conservatives

 

volunteering at the foodbank and you attack me. Conservatives are too busy supporting legislation cutting foodstamps, benefits for vets, benefits for seniors, etc. All the while they drool at the idea of giving hundreds of billions to the biggest banks and biggest corporations just like Hillary. She is one of them. She also has little empathy for the poor and working class.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #71)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 02:44 PM

73. I laugh at you and your selfishness.

Oh look now you are the victim..

I am neither a RW or a LW.. Real life is filled with truth and nuance.. Something Libs and Cons seem to never get..
Just silly selfish chest pounding and blaming.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #38)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:58 AM

45. No, we're mocking Warren for falsely claiming she is of the First People in order to self promote.

She is the racist for doing so.

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:55 AM

44. Again...

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:27 AM

51. Do you have any other tactic?

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Response to Moe Zarella (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 26, 2016, 03:57 PM

76. Lie- a- watha racist?

Nope just describes how she lied about being an Indian for her own personal gain. No Indian tribes has recognized her as even 1/16th or 1/32nd Indian. She is a LIAR!!!! so if telling the truth is racist- then I guess I am.

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Wed Oct 26, 2016, 02:55 PM

74. They had their chance. They didn't deliver.

I wanted to believe so much but everything veered off in a bizarre direction in the second term.

The neocons tried to 'create reality' and it kicked them in the behind.

Then the neolibs, doubled down, tripled down, quadrupled down using the same playbook.

Why?

Why not just build on real achievements like we wanted you to?

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