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Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:28 PM

What conservatives don't understand - all states have health insurance mandates

and no one complained much. (See insurance commissioners)

Now I know conservatives like "states rights" but please read the US Constitution! -( The Supremacy Clause! )

The Supremacy Clause is the provision in Article Six, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution that establishes the U.S. Constitution, federal statutes, and U.S. treaties as "the supreme law of the land". It provides that these are the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state.

I will give conservatives lessons on the US Constitution any time - I don't mind at all!

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Reply What conservatives don't understand - all states have health insurance mandates (Original post)
moneyshot Jun 2014 OP
Dem David Jun 2014 #1
Let it go Jun 2014 #2
Rephleshed Jun 2014 #3
Let it go Jun 2014 #4
Sassyspop Jun 2014 #5

Response to moneyshot (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:42 PM

1. All states have health insurance mandates?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I don't think that's correct.

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Response to moneyshot (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:21 PM

2. Lol. Sure states are responsible for regulating insurance.

Are you seriously calling that an insurance mandate?

In fact the ACA is a power grab by the federal government into what is traditionally the territory of each state.


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Response to Let it go (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 08:23 PM

3. The OP is saying that when state X requires insurance companies in-state to cover Y...

...then that is an insurance mandate in the sense that the government is mandating what insurance companies in that state have to cover.

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Response to Rephleshed (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:06 PM

4. Well what they used to require and what the ACA requires is a huge leap for the vast majority

They took what was a menu approach that allowed for catastrophic plans truer underwriting and took most of the choice out of the picture.

The Feds managed to outdo every state's minimum coverages by quite a bit. I do not see how it's supposed to be in any way cheaper when there is much more upfront payment in the premium.

No state had been such a vehicle for moving payments from the young to the old or the healthy to the sick. They definitely reinvented insurance based on their own social values demanding more net contributions from those they decided would be "losers/payers".

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Response to moneyshot (Original post)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:47 PM

5. "I will give conservatives lessons on the US Constitution any time - I don't mind at all!"

 

I'm you huckleberry any TIME you want to do a Constitutional debate....
Every conservative I know knows there are state commissioners....and minimum standards for providers in their states..that governed a plan should you chose to be insured,
We also know the Obamacare took away the "choice" part

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