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Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:55 AM

Racism rumble on the ballot and blacks don't show up?

Yeah, I get that Obama's not running, but Trump sure is. This election is a chance to sock it to racists big time. They are ecstatic about Trump. He took the chain off of their leg and let them out of the cellar where they belong.

Thanks to Trump, racists are now stinking up the air we good people live in. Open racism is slouching toward the polls to be born and blacks don't show up?

After calling the racists out with BLM and Ferguson and making progress, blacks are just going to let the racists vote them down without a fight? They are going to let the racist vote suppression by the Republican Party actually work? So the Republicans can just keep doing it?

The best president in my lifetime is Obama, and blacks won't show up at the polls to fight the people who want to erase him.

No. That I don't get.

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swifty Nov 2016 OP
Horsefeathers Nov 2016 #1
swifty Nov 2016 #2
I814U2CY Nov 2016 #6
Horsefeathers Nov 2016 #7
swifty Nov 2016 #10
Currentsitguy Nov 2016 #3
swifty Nov 2016 #4
Currentsitguy Nov 2016 #12
I814U2CY Nov 2016 #5
swifty Nov 2016 #8
I814U2CY Nov 2016 #22
Magyar Heidinn Nov 2016 #9
Red_Nation Nov 2016 #15
swifty Nov 2016 #18
Magyar Heidinn Nov 2016 #23
PerroMalo Nov 2016 #11
Sibelian the White Nov 2016 #13
swifty Nov 2016 #14
Red_Nation Nov 2016 #16
swifty Nov 2016 #17
Red_Nation Nov 2016 #19
swifty Nov 2016 #21
LaughingGull Nov 2016 #28
swifty Nov 2016 #29
LaughingGull Nov 2016 #32
swifty Nov 2016 #33
Tolk Nov 2016 #20
Jardinier Nov 2016 #24
swifty Nov 2016 #25
Jardinier Nov 2016 #26
swifty Nov 2016 #27
LaughingGull Nov 2016 #30
swifty Nov 2016 #31
PerroMalo Nov 2016 #34
LaughingGull Nov 2016 #35
swifty Nov 2016 #38
Jardinier Nov 2016 #36
swifty Nov 2016 #39
Jardinier Nov 2016 #41
swifty Nov 2016 #42
Jardinier Nov 2016 #45
the more you know Nov 2016 #37
mrwordsworth Nov 2016 #40
U.S.Awesome Nov 2016 #43
swifty Nov 2016 #44

Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:59 AM

1. Maybe they just don't like Hillary.

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Response to Horsefeathers (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:00 AM

2. Racists hate Hillary

No maybes.

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Response to swifty (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:08 AM

6. Because she's black?

 

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Response to swifty (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:09 AM

7. Most men hate her too.

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Response to Horsefeathers (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:11 AM

10. Some men might. Mostly it's "men" that do.

Most men like her.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:02 AM

3. The charge and the word are meaningless

It has been hurled at every single non Democrat candidate for the past 30+ years. Nobody listens or cares anymore.

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:05 AM

4. That proposition is exactly what is on the ballot.

It's exactly what Republican racists want to have ratified as true by the election of Donald Trump.

It's not true at all, but blacks are going to let the orc folk vote it true.

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Response to swifty (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:13 AM

12. again

The moment the term "racist" or "racism" is used, anything stated afterward is meaningless. It was so overused for political gain and to shut down opposition that it's usage has no weight whatsoever now.

I'll make a prediction. The Republican candidate for the elections of 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032 and so on and so forth will all be accused of exactly the same thing. The attacks are already written. All the remains is to fill in the blank with whoever the candidate's name is. It's like you don't even try anymore.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:07 AM

5. Well, you know how *those* people are.

 



Seriously, you whimper about racism yet you feel entitled to people's vote based on nothing more than color but then you question their judgment as a group.

Get over yourself.

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:10 AM

8. Good one.

It's one of two I expected (and discount).

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Response to swifty (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:45 AM

22. Denial is a helluva drug

 

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:10 AM

9. They could be waking up to the

discovery that they have been subjugated for generations by leftist whites who use them to tug at the heart strings of the lower ranking white useful idiots.

Or they could just see Hillary and Don for the worthless uninspiring piles of shit that they are.

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Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:25 AM

15. This ^

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Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:34 AM

18. Who's inspiring in your world?

That could be the problem. Is everyone an uninspiring pile of shit? If so, it would be no wonder you put actual shit like Trump in the same category with Clinton (whose undeserved reputation for being shit comes from the folks who actually are shit).

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Response to swifty (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:48 AM

23. Folks who are actually shit!

Like folks who use POC as political tools. You know, the part of my post you obviously did not have a problem with.

Undeserved reputation! Now that's rich!
Many provable lies.
Harboring a mysoginist asshole.
Disparaging his victims.
Calling black males predators.
Leg humping a KKK member.

Shall I go on?


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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:13 AM

11. What, exactly, have obama and the democrat party

done for them?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:16 AM

13. Maybe you should try...


...talking to some black people.

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Response to Sibelian the White (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:18 AM

14. This is the second one I anticipated.

And discount.

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Response to swifty (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:27 AM

16. Nope, nope....

...can't listen to what black folks *actually* have to say about this election, now can we? It might pop your little bubble.

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Response to Red_Nation (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:31 AM

17. What does that have to do with anything?

It's an irrelevant point. The point is to put out an argument. I didn't say blacks can't read it.

Ridiculous.

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Response to swifty (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:35 AM

19. Your question is..

why the black turnout is low. You might go ask the actual folks you are questioning. I think you might find the answer is that they don't care much for Hillary....so yeah, it's quite relevant.

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Response to Red_Nation (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:37 AM

21. I am asking the actual folks I am questioning.

I take it you assume there are no blacks on Discussionist? Otherwise well....what are you talking about?

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Response to swifty (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:15 PM

28. You OP about how you don't understand why black people are doing a certain something....

....and then discount a response that says you should try talking to some black people, to find out why they are doing the certain something.

And you act as though your anticipation and subsequent discounting of that response, is some kind of accomplishment for you?

Liberal ignorance and arrogance never ceases to amaze me.

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:17 PM

29. Amazement should be a rare experience.

It's not amazement if it's not rare.

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Response to swifty (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:21 PM

32. No, amazement is not always a rare experience.

The thinking and behavior of liberals is so ridiculous and unbelievable, that the amazement factor is always there.

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:21 PM

33. Sorry, that's not amazement.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:35 AM

20. Maybe they can see reality

 

Democrats have done nothing for them.
Just pay lip service every four years.
Pretty simple really.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:51 AM

24. Please could you explain this, thank you.

After calling the racists out with BLM and Ferguson and making progress, blacks are just going to let the racists vote them down without a fight?

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:56 AM

25. The post hasn't been there that long.

So I know you couldn't have tried very hard to figure it out on your own. Or you are at work or something and didn't give it much thought, in which case let's hope you aren't on the clock. Ask again in a couple of hours, and if you still find it perplexing, I'll explain it. Otherwise, I risk explaining things to people who are being dishonest about their inability to understand very simple concepts and just want to waste my time.

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Response to swifty (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:05 PM

26. I’m retired and when I did work I owned the company. No 'on the clock' for me for yonks.

I asked you you explain. Please explain. After all this is Discussionist and we are here to discuss.

Thanking you in anticipation, Jardinier.

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:12 PM

27. Sure. Sure.

Can you tell me what explanations you have tried for it? You might have the right interpretation. I don't like explaining things that basically everyone understands but, say, one guy. I don't really care if that guy doesn't understand.

I'm not saying you're that guy by the way. I have no way of knowing whether you are just trying to waste my time or playing a game. Or if you own a business. Or whatever.

Try harder. Say what you think it might mean. Say what about it bothers you or that you don't understand.

Otherwise, like I say, I'll just have dishonest people asking for explanations all the time to waste my time. That's not reasonable, fair, virtuous discussion behavior. That's just kind of low character sneaky stuff. Not saying that's what you are doing, by the way.

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Response to swifty (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:17 PM

30. Translation:

I'm not sure how to explain the bigoted BS I have posted, so I refuse to do so.

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:19 PM

31. "Bigotry" against racists isn't a bad form of bigotry.

I'll completely admit it. I look down on racists. Way down.

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Response to swifty (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:21 PM

34. How many do you know?

I mean in real life, personally, how many do you know?

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Response to swifty (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:22 PM

35. Displaying bigotry against white people simply because their view differs from yours,

is indeed a heinous form of bigotry.

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Response to LaughingGull (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:27 PM

38. Don't slander white people by categorizing white racists with them.

Yeesh. I'm white. It's ridiculous to think I would display bigotry against white people. Good "whites" look down on racist "whites." Way down.

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Response to swifty (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:23 PM

36. I’m a woman by the way. I really want to discuss the meaning of this.

After calling the racists out with BLM and Ferguson and making progress, blacks are just going to let the racists vote them down without a fight?

How did the BLM call out racists? What about Ferguson, what did that have to do with racism? What progress was made? Are you talking about the progress since the surrender, or progress since we got civil rights?

Not trying to be cheeky. I would love to discuss your point of view on these things if you have time.

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:47 PM

39. Ok

I take it by "the surrender" you mean the Civil War surrender.

So, no, I'm talking about progress since the Ferguson incident and progress due to BLM. There has definitely been progress in Ferguson itself and across the country. That ranges from improved community policing to court decisions against "fining for revenue" to cases against jailing people who can't pay fines or make bail simply because they are poor. That is progress, and it has a good effect on good people.

But not on racists. On them it has the opposite effect. Progress for blacks makes racists angry and resentful. So that is what I mean by them being "called out" by the above. Blacks stood up for improvement. The political reaction to that action is that racists want to eliminate that improvement.

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Response to swifty (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:03 PM

41. I’m of the opinion that the BLM movement has been a step back for race relations in the U.S.

Their violent and disrupted actions have been appalling. Policemen have been murdered, freeways closed down, business destroyed, white people being target by black racists.

Many communities fine for revenue and that’s why it’s a good idea to drive extra slow going through small towns - if you’re not local. It is not the courts fault that people can’t make bail or pay their fines. Many people have multiple fines, don’t show up for court etc. It would be easier for them not to break the law in the first place. If you can’t pay the fine, don’t do the crime.

No one should be above the law and it should be known that if you break the law there are consequences. I also believe that when juveniles break the law, not only they should be held accountable, but their parents should be as well.

In some communities breaking the law is a way of life, a game.

The boy in Ferguson, Mike Brown, was a violent thug. He broke the law and then attacked a policeman. His parents should have been ashamed of the way he was behaving. He was out of control. Mrs. Clinton, by having his mother on the stump with her, was sending a very wrong message to thugs and their parents. Parents, such as myself, who have raised good productive sons have the right to be resentful. By the way, the rioters/thugs are not a good example of America’s black citizens. Most black folk are not at all like that.

It has been a long time that black folk have been held back from rising to the top of their chosen field. The police in Ferguson hire from the local community but many of the people have criminal records. I remember years ago telling my son, who was in the delayed enlistment program at the time, when he was going out with his chums that if he breaks the law or one of his friends breaks the law and he’s with them, he can forget about his career. He retired from the military a few years ago and has started his second career.

It’s our job to raise decent human beings.

I don’t think anyone resents black people when they are successful, productive, law biding. It’s thuggish people that other people don’t like.

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Response to Jardinier (Reply #41)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:16 PM

42. If you blame BLM for policemen being murdered, you have to blame Trump supporters...

...for this latest murder of policemen in Iowa.

I'm not inclined to do either.

It's hard to look at the Michael Brown shooting and not think the officer didn't have to kill him. And regardless of how you feel about it, the abuses I mentioned have been exposed.

Decent human beings? I don't know. Is Trump the kind of person we want to tell our kids is someone worthy of the Presidency of the United States? Is that meeting our responsibility to raise human beings?

That's not a message I have given my kids. I'll tell you that.

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Response to swifty (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:51 PM

45. If you had been that policeman and the man who just tried to take your gun was now charging back at

you, what would you have done? Keep in mind if he got your gun he would kill you and take the gun with him into the community.

It’s not the governments duty to raise our children, or even be a good example. It is us, not people such as Bill Clinton. My youngest asked me what oral sex was in 1998.

BLM have caused racial hatred in the US. White privilege is not real but black folk don’t know that though. The belief is white people can break the law and get away with it. Did Trump supporters kill policemen at the BLM marches etc?

I have never encountered white on black racism in my life, but I have encountered black on white racism. Can you think of any real examples of abuse?

Have to leave for the day.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:26 PM

37. It's only Nov 4th, if the stress of Hillary losing ground daily is causing you to post like this

on the 4th just how unhinged are you going to be on the 8th?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:47 PM

40. I can explain it swifty

 

Its because Hillary is a bad candidate. She is the epitome of what Obama campaigned against and the occupy movement protested against. She is the epitome of why leftist college professors teach against. A crony capitalist hedge fund scamster. She makes under 200k per year as Secretary of state and her husband enjoys white privilege retirement and they are worth hundreds of millions today?

Maybe the problem is that Democrat operatives haven't vandalized enough black churches and spray painted "vote trump" on the walls. Scott foval and Robert creamer where are?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:29 PM

43. It's because most blacks don't agree with the media's portrayal of racism in this country.

The media bombards them constantly with how oppressed they are and how victimized they are. It runs completely counter to their actual, real-life experiences.

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Response to U.S.Awesome (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:33 PM

44. Wait. Trump said they were living in Hell or something, didn't he?

He insulted them and hurt their real estate values.

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