Politicspoliticsmuslimbantrumpfirstlawsuithoganlovells

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:10 AM

Hawaii plans to file first lawsuit against new travel ban

This makes me smile http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/hawaii-travel-ban-lawsuit/index.html

Hawaii is not wasting any time challenging President Donald Trump's new travel ban.

Attorneys for the state explained in court filings Tuesday that they intend to file a motion Wednesday asking a federal judge to issue a temporary restraining order blocking implementation of the new executive order -- and fast.

Trump signed a new executive order Monday banning foreign nationals from six Muslim-majority countries from entering the US for 90 days and banning all refugees for 120 days.

While many immigrants' rights groups and state attorneys general expressed deep reservations about the new order Monday, none have filed new lawsuits or amended their original filings.

"To be sure, the new executive order covers fewer people than the old one," Neal Katyal, one of the lead attorneys for Hawaii, said in an interview with CNN. But in his view, the new travel ban still "suffers from the same constitutional and statutory defects."
My middle child has some classmates at the lawfirm that filed this lawsuit http://hoganlovells.com/en/publications/documents-in-state-of-hawaii-et-al-v-trump-a-challenge-to-president-trumps-march-6-2017-travel-ban I am also amused that a right wing GOP lawyer from a big firm just jumped firms to go to this firm. I get to tease this lawyer next week

This will be fun to watch

16 replies, 863 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 16 replies Author Time Post
Reply Hawaii plans to file first lawsuit against new travel ban (Original post)
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 OP
Sebastopolitan Mar 2017 #1
Shkreli Mar 2017 #2
PrescientWon. Mar 2017 #3
SickOfThisMess Mar 2017 #4
Cold Warrior Mar 2017 #5
Badsamm Mar 2017 #6
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 #7
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 #8
_eek Mar 2017 #9
btw Mar 2017 #13
_eek Mar 2017 #10
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 #11
btw Mar 2017 #12
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 #14
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 #15
Letmypeoplevote Mar 2017 #16

Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:13 AM

1. You'd think they'd get it right the second time.

 

We shall see. There are times when you cheer for the Trump administration's oafish incompetence to defeat its radical anti-Americanism.

The EO could still be poisoned by Trump, et al.'s earlier comments about a Muslim ban.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:46 AM

2. Which law will be challenged? This one?

 

(a) Restrictions and prohibitions

Unless otherwise ordered by the President, it shall be unlawful—

(1) for any alien to depart from or enter or attempt to depart from or enter the United States except under such reasonable rules, regulations, and orders, and subject to such limitations and exceptions as the President may prescribe;

You don't really think we believe that you are an attorney do you?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Shkreli (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:28 AM

3. Goth makes sandwiches and fetches coffee.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:06 AM

4. And....

pretends to be a lawyer.

LOL !!!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 04:36 AM

5. Special Snowflake Triggered

This was alerted on. Voted to 'Leave."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 05:05 AM

6. Don't embarrass us please

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:45 AM

7. Hawaii To File Legal Challenge To Trump's New Travel Ban

More on the first of several lawsuits http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hawaii-legal-challenge-new-travel-ban?utm_content=buffer1f7c3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Hawaii will file a legal challenge to President Donald Trump's new executive order temporarily barring travelers from six predominantly Muslim countries, according to a filing submitted Tuesday.

The state will ask a federal judge for a temporary restraining order against the new order on Wednesday, per the filing.

Neal Katyal, one of the attorneys representing the state, told CNN that while "the new executive order covers fewer people than the old one" the replacement travel ban still "suffers from the same constitutional and statutory defects."

He also told MSNBC that that the administration's argument that the temporary ban is necessary for national security is undermined by the fact that the new order signed Monday will not go into effect until next week.

"Of course, this time not only did he take a week but he took 10 days," Katyal said. "So I really think it just underscores the lack of national security justification here — this isn't about protecting us from bad guys rushing into the country, this is about politics."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:33 PM

8. States ask court to stop Trump's new travel ban from ever taking effect

A number of states are not suing to void trump's muslim ban http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/states-seek-to-block-new-trump-travel-ban-executive-order-235888?utm_content=buffere056a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

At least five states are banding together in a legal drive to block key elements of President Donald Trump’s second travel ban.

Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson said his office is filing a motion asking a federal judge in Seattle to rule that an existing injunction against Trump’s earlier travel ban order applies to parallel portions of the president’s new directive, which he signed Monday.

“We’re asserting that the president cannot unilaterally declare himself free of the court’s restraining order and injunction,” Ferguson told reporters at news conference Thursday. “This is not a new lawsuit....It’s our view that that temporary restraining order that we’ve already obtained remains in effect. And the burden is on the federal government to explain why it does not.”

“You cannot tweet your way out of it,” Ferguson added. “It does not work that way in a courtroom.”

Trump’s original order suspended entry to the U.S. by citizens of seven majority-Muslim countries and halted refugee admissions. The new order exempts existing visa holders from travel restrictions and removes one nation—Iraq—from the original list.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:36 PM

9. Are you an attorney?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to _eek (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:52 PM

13. are you a 3rd grader?

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:41 PM

10. a number of States are NOT suing.. what like most of them?

8. States ask court to stop Trump's new travel ban from ever taking effect
View profile

A number of states are not suing to void trump's muslim ban http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/states-seek-to-block-new-trump-travel-ban-executive-order-235888?utm_content=buffere056a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

even a first week steno girl should know to proofread.. You fucked this up so bad it now means the exact opposite of what it is supposed to

This indeed is fun to watch..
Failure of the basic principal of a secretary.




Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:44 PM

11. Another judge sets hearing on blocking revised Trump travel ban

This other lawsuit is also moving fast http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-travel-ban-court-hearing-235927

A second federal judge has set a hearing on a demand that President Donald Trump's new travel ban executive order be prevented from taking effect.

U.S. District Court Judge Theodore Chuang scheduled the hearing for Wednesday at 9:30 a.m. in his Greenbelt, Maryland courtroom, on a lawsuit brought by refugee aid groups.

The Maryland hearing could be just one in a flurry of court battles on the eve of the scheduled implementation of Trump's revised travel ban executive order, which is set to take effect just after midnight Wednesday night.

Chuang's hearing is set to take place just hours before a 3:30 p.m. ET hearing in front of a federal judge in Honolulu in a travel ban suit brought by the state of Hawaii.

In addition, the states of Washington and Minnesota are asking a judge in Seattle to confirm that an existing injunction against key parts of Trump's original travel ban executive order blocks similar portions of his revised directive. No hearing has been set on that dispute, but one is expected next week before Trump's new order kicks in.

Lawyers involved in the Maryland case, brought by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of the International Refugee Assistance Project and HIAS, say it's possible the hearing in their case could be postponed or canceled if Seattle-based U.S. District Court Judge James Robart decides his existing injunction applies to Trump's new order.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:51 PM

12. This will be an awesome slap down.

 

the defense will have little to no ability to refute that the motivation this time around is different than the motivation the last time around....it's still a Muslim ban

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:09 PM

14. Stephen Millers Fox News interview is coming back to haunt President Trump

Part of the filing in the lawsuit brought by Hawaii is an interview from Stephen Miller where the idiot guts the legal defenses for this new Muslim ban https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/09/stephen-millers-fox-news-interview-is-coming-back-to-haunt-president-trump/?utm_term=.9f4f3b4172db

One piece of evidence submitted to support Hawaii's case is a Feb. 21 interview White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller granted to Fox News. Here's an excerpt from Hawaii's lawsuit, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Honolulu:

Miller told Fox News that the new travel ban would have the same effect as the old one. He said: “Fundamentally, you're still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country, but you're going to be responsive to a lot of very technical issues that were brought up by the court, and those will be addressed. But, in terms of protecting the country, those basic policies are still going to be in effect.”
We don't know how the federal court in Hawaii will weigh Miller's remarks. But we do know that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit (Hawaii is on the 9th Circuit, by the way) did factor public remarks by Trump and his surrogates into its decision last month to keep implementation of the original travel ban on hold.
The 9th Circuit used similar statements by trump and Rudy and here this evidence could kill the trump's attempts top defend this muslim ban
Here's what the court wrote in its unanimous ruling against Trump:

The states argue that the executive order violates the Establishment and Equal Protection clauses because it was intended to disfavor Muslims. In support of this argument, the states have offered evidence of numerous statements by the president about his intent to implement a “Muslim ban,” as well as evidence they claim suggests that the Executive Order was intended to be that ban, including sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the order.

It is well established that evidence of purpose beyond the face of the challenged law may be considered in evaluating Establishment and Equal Protection clause claims.
That last sentence is key. The precedent the appeals court set for lower courts — such as the one in Hawaii — is to consider the spirit of the order, not merely the letter, by examining what White House officials say they hope to accomplish with it.

In the latest case, Miller made clear on Fox News that the purpose of the revised travel ban is “to have the same basic policy outcome” as the original. Hawaii believes Miller's statement is a liability for the White House. We'll see if it's right.
Trump's idiot adviser may have given the court all it needs to rule against Trump's latest Muslim ban

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Mar 13, 2017, 11:42 PM

15. Yeah for California

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Mar 14, 2017, 12:46 AM

16. New York State is also suing

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Politicspoliticsmuslimbantrumpfirstlawsuithoganlovells