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Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:59 PM

 

Not a good day for the Don, yes there is an active investigation Into Russian involvement

in the US election to include possible connections between the Don's team and the Kremlin, and secondly, there doesn't exist any evidence that President Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump campaign headquarters, the right wing media is going have a time of it spinning those realities to the Don's satisfaction

The Don's team had to be thinking the Russian concern would be pit to rest today, and that they could use that to counter and mute the revelation that he fabricated the Obama bit, but it just didn't work out that way.

Certainly, ain't no "winning" today

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Reply Not a good day for the Don, yes there is an active investigation Into Russian involvement (Original post)
archives Mar 2017 OP
Carl Mar 2017 #1
archives Mar 2017 #6
Carl Mar 2017 #8
archives Mar 2017 #12
Carl Mar 2017 #14
archives Mar 2017 #22
Carl Mar 2017 #23
Tolk Mar 2017 #13
archives Mar 2017 #21
PrescientWon. Mar 2017 #2
DoDaMan Mar 2017 #3
archives Mar 2017 #4
PrescientWon. Mar 2017 #16
def_con5 Mar 2017 #7
archives Mar 2017 #17
def_con5 Mar 2017 #20
archives Mar 2017 #25
btw Mar 2017 #24
def_con5 Mar 2017 #30
Squeek Mar 2017 #36
btw Mar 2017 #37
def_con5 Mar 2017 #39
btw Mar 2017 #41
rh24 Mar 2017 #27
Dexter Morgan Mar 2017 #5
archives Mar 2017 #9
Carl Mar 2017 #10
archives Mar 2017 #26
Carl Mar 2017 #31
Rebeca42 Mar 2017 #15
archives Mar 2017 #18
rh24 Mar 2017 #29
kevlar Mar 2017 #33
btw Mar 2017 #32
obamateur2 Mar 2017 #11
archives Mar 2017 #19
rh24 Mar 2017 #28
kevlar Mar 2017 #34
obamateur2 Mar 2017 #42
MumblyPeg Mar 2017 #35
NeoKhan Mar 2017 #38
Sardis Mar 2017 #40
Let it go Mar 2017 #43

Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:01 PM

1. Not a good day for dems...you got nothing.

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Response to Carl (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:14 PM

6. What they have is the fact that an investigation is in progress

 

and proof the Don fabricated his accusations against Obama

You better watch Fox for awhile so at least you can come up with a good sounding spin

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Response to archives (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:15 PM

8. What you have is a person that will be President for another 4 years at least.

Plus a new SCOTUS Justice very soon.

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Response to Carl (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:19 PM

12. Wel, that's debateable given the way things are going,

 

and Herbert Hoover was President for four years, and we all know how that turned out

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Response to archives (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:21 PM

14. No it isnt and will see what happens in 2020.

Honestly,you lefties really should get out of your bubbles where you tell each other stuff you want to believe.

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Response to Carl (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:41 PM

22. But you got nothing to rebuttal with other than "no it isn't" and your "wrong"

 

meaning, the living in bubbles falls upon your world view, "it's my way or it's wrong"

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Response to archives (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:42 PM

23. I am simply stating what the likely fact is.

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Response to archives (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:20 PM

13. We knew there was an investigation

Obama publicly said he ordered it.
There is no investigation specifically targeting Trump.
So we basically know the same things we knew yesterday and nothing new.

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Response to Tolk (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:39 PM

21. No, we know there is no evidence that Obama personally ordered the wiretapping of Trump Towers,

 

in other words, the Don made it up

And there was an investigation into Russian involvement in the elections, not an investigation into Trump and the Russians, but Russian involvement, and said investigation is continuing

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:03 PM

2. yes.

If Trump is under investigation, who ordered it and when?

Answer: Loretto Lynch, under direction of Baracka AL Husseini Odumbo.

And investigations require surveillance... certainly of Trump tower.

Checkmate bitches.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:06 PM

3. Yep, today we found out that there was indeed an investigation

launched against Trump and his campaign....who ordered it under the Obama administration?

Checkmate indeed!

Lock Obama up.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:11 PM

4. Now there's a spin even talk radio would be embarassed selling,

 

The intial investigation began last July when it became apparent Russia was involving itself in the election, they even confirmed this morning that the Russian involvement was so apparent they were surprised the Russiams were so brazen

The data derived thru surveillance came via taps on Russian phones

And it was noticed you had nothing to say regarding the Don being officially exposed as lying regarding his accusation against Obama

But you can try again

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Response to archives (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:23 PM

16. you're admitting it right there, Lefty.

Who ordered the investigation last summer?

And a confirmed FISA warrant on Trump's server...

Clear As Day.

Obama ordered investigation and surveillance on Trump.

QED.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:15 PM

7. My read exactly

Comey is being very precise about the wire tap. I'm gonna take him at his word.

I've been out most of the AM so haven't heard his testimony, or read any transcripts.

But I gather that he said something like the FBI has been investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians since July.

What does that mean?
I don't see any other interpretation than the Obama Administration has been spying on trump's campaign since July.

It also looks they haven't come up with anything.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:28 PM

17. Now does every investigation the FBI does originate in the White House?

 

Comey said today that they knew the Russians were attempting to influence the elections because the Russians were so brazen and blatant in what they were doing. The notion that Obama personally iniated an investigation on Trump is absurd

And Trump's accusation was that Obama personally ordered a wiretap of Trump towers, which the FBI and NSA said today was totally unfounded

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Response to archives (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:37 PM

20. There was no wiretap installed in Trump Towers.

Got it, I believe Comey.

But you think, that's really going to matter to the average voter, when it comes out that they were listening to his cell phone conversations?

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:43 PM

25. They weren't listening to any Trump campaign members' phones,

 

rather Russian figures who received phone calls from individuals in the Trump campaign

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:43 PM

24. My read......

 

Obama called for investigations into Russian meddling into the elections before he left office. This was publically announced. Taking that investigation where it may lead.

Caught up in the web of corruption and investigation and leads, is Trump and his cabinet...it was a natural outgrowth of the investigations. Trump is in a helluvalottava trouble.

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Response to btw (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:56 PM

30. Not in July he didn't

Could be wrong about that, the July date comes from DU.

Think this through for a bit, there wouldn't be anything to investigate after the election. My recollection is Obama went public in December. Way to late.

So they've been spying on Trump's campaign since July.

Snooping on a political opponent is gonna get Obama in a heap of trouble.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #30)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:46 PM

36. Wait a minute!!

Snooping on a political opponent is gonna get Obama in a heap of trouble.

You guys can't have it both ways.

Either Obama is a "limp wristed", ineffectual, weakling as most righties claim, or....

He's a Machiavelli, too devious and cunning for all you righties to figure out...ordering all sorts of illegal activities and leaving not a trace...


Which is it?

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #30)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:51 PM

37. I don't think there is any evidence it was Obama that initiated anything...so that tack false

 

I do believe that you are right in that that the Obama calls for investigation occurred after the election....I can imagine all sort of havoc should he have tried to halt or delay the elections while this investigation was being conducted. What a choice to make!!

However, there was solid evidence of Russian meddling well before the voting....and I do believe that POTUS does not direct every single nuanced investigation initiated by the FBI. While I don't deny (for lack of any other solid info) that Trump has been on Intel radar for some time, there is no evidence that Obama initiated anything.

Far from Obama being in trouble...it would seem that Trump has dug his own grave. Trump lied about the wiretapping, he and his cabinet and entourage have lied repeatedly about their connections to Russia (some under oath) and because that investigation has now been kicked up into high gear, we are finding that there are extensive financial loans and entanglements that are now coming to light.

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Response to btw (Reply #37)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:00 PM

39. You're right about that

There is no real evidence that Obama ordered an investigation. But this ain't your normal bank robbery investigation. Spying on a presidential candidate? IMHO, had to come from the WH, you would need the political cover.

Well maybe in 20 years or so we can read a good book about this. As sordid as this is whoever did what to who, is not going to come out in the short run.

This makes the whole political system look like crap, maybe it is.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #39)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:18 PM

41. "This makes the whole political system look like crap, maybe it is"

 

pretty disheartening.

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Response to def_con5 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:49 PM

27. Yep.

Nailed it

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:14 PM

5. Hillary is still not the president their is that..

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:17 PM

9. And James Cox nor Al Smith were ever elected President, and we all know how that turned out

 

besides, we partially know why Clinton wasn't elected, the Don had the Russians working on his campaign

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Response to archives (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:18 PM

10. That is a flat out lie.

No such thing is "known".

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Response to Carl (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:44 PM

26. Then how do you know "it is a lie?"

 

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Response to archives (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:58 PM

31. What a stupid question.

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Response to archives (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:21 PM

15. "partially know"

Is that like being "almost pregnant"?

You're funny, archives. I'll give you that much.

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Response to Rebeca42 (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:30 PM

18. No it means it is part of the answer, the world isn't made up of absolutes

 

the "almost pregnant" attempt is corny

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Response to Rebeca42 (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:55 PM

29. I partially feel bad for archy.

But mostly I wish to continue goofing on him

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Response to archives (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:18 PM

33. Yes, we know why

she lost due to her own hubris.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:13 PM

32. first...it's "there" , next, Nixon was also voted in as President

 

and CONs have been working ever since to get over that magnificent shaming. And here is it staring you all in the face all over again...so there is that...

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:19 PM

11. what will it take to convince you there's no there there??

 

when that finally happens, will you apologize to the forum for posting this inane babble every day??

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Response to obamateur2 (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:34 PM

19. Wait a minute, so your saying there is nothing there, so why is the FBI investigating?

 

if there was nothing there, wouldn't the FBI issue the results of thier investigation or at least confirm the investigation is over? Evidently they feel there is enough circumstantial evidence to keep pursuing the facts

Your crying employing your personal opinions rather than facts

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Response to archives (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:54 PM

28. Why, yes.There will be a report.

When Grammy Cankie's e-mail server was investigated it took Comey almost exactly one year to determine that Hillary was guilty as hell, but he would not recommend a referral.

Until that report was issued, Comey refused to comment on the investigation.

It really is no more complicated or conspiratorial than that.

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Response to archives (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:19 PM

34. Please, lay out the facts.

So far you have provided nothing of substance.

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Response to archives (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:18 PM

42. do you realize that when you post things like "so your saying "...

 

everyone thinks you're an idiot??

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:39 PM

35. I don't think

you were paying attention... or you've been watching carefully edited videos released by Rick Maddow again.

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:00 PM

38. Watergate 2.0

 

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:07 PM

40. Stock "canned" conservative reply....

You're WRONG!!!!! Nothing to see here, NOTHING! We've got a really great president, really fantastic, really......so great! Because......Hillary.........and four/eight more years.......lefty....Benghazi....emails.... blah, blah, blah

#winninglooksjustlikelosing

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Response to archives (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:38 PM

43. Very convenient investigation if you want to spy on your opponent.

What's interesting is they found nothing to leak to destroy Trump beyond lurid accusations in the dodgy dossier.

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