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Wed Apr 26, 2017, 09:32 AM

Republicans exempt their own insurance from their latest health care proposal

The GOP members of congress are proposing that any bill that strips other voters of coverage for pre-existing conditions will not apply to members of congress https://www.vox.com/2017/4/25/15429982/gop-exemption-ahca-amendment

House Republicans appear to have included a provision that exempts Members of Congress and their staff from their latest health care plan.

The new Republican amendment, introduced Tuesday night, would allow states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions. This means that insurers could once again, under certain circumstances, charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people.

Republican legislators liked this policy well enough to offer it in a new amendment. They do not, however, seem to like it enough to have it apply to themselves and their staff. A spokesperson for Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) who authored this amendment confirmed this was the case: members of Congress and their staff would get the guarantee of keeping these Obamacare regulations. Health law expert Tim Jost flagged me to this particular issue.

A bit of background is helpful here. Obamacare requires all members of Congress and their staff to purchase coverage on the individual market, just like Obamacare enrollees. The politics of that plank were simple enough, meant to demonstrate that if the coverage in this law were good enough for Americans than it should be good enough for their representations in Washington.

That’s been happening for the past four years now. Fast-forward to this new amendment, which would allow states to waive out of key Obamacare protections like the ban on pre-existing conditions or the requirement to cover things like maternity care and mental health services.

If Congressional aides lived in a state that decided to waive these protections, the aides who were sick could be vulnerable to higher premiums than the aides that are healthy. Their benefits package could get skimpier as Obamacare’s essential health benefits requirement may no longer apply either.

This apparently does not sound appealing because the Republican amendment includes the members of Congress and their staff as a protected group who cannot be affected by this amendment.

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Reply Republicans exempt their own insurance from their latest health care proposal (Original post)
Letmypeoplevote Apr 2017 OP
southernwriter Apr 2017 #1
Moe Zarella May 2017 #11
Shkreli Apr 2017 #2
Letmypeoplevote May 2017 #9
MumblyPeg Apr 2017 #3
Letmypeoplevote Apr 2017 #4
Dexter Morgan Apr 2017 #5
uncledad Apr 2017 #6
Moe Zarella May 2017 #12
Moe Zarella May 2017 #15
Letmypeoplevote Apr 2017 #7
Letmypeoplevote May 2017 #8
ProgressiveTaxation May 2017 #10
Moe Zarella May 2017 #13
kevlar May 2017 #14
TendiesForBreakfast May 2017 #16
myohmy May 2017 #17

Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 09:44 AM

1. Oh wow, that's bad.

It's as bad as when the Democratic congress exempted themselves from Obamacare. Our congress setup really is a joke.

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Response to southernwriter (Reply #1)

Thu May 4, 2017, 08:15 PM

11. No there is a difference because Congress didn't exempt themselves for Obamacare.

 

You see Obamacare didn't effect those that have plans like Congress. But nice try with the FAKE NEWS.

But there is no bill in Congress calling for an exemption from the health care law {ACA}. In fact, members of Congress and their staffs face additional requirements that most Americans don’t have to meet.
Under the health care law, their insurance coverage will have to switch from the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, the group of private insurance plans that cover 8 million federal employees and retirees, to the exchanges created by the law. Those exchanges are meant for those who buy coverage on their own, the currently uninsured and small businesses. Members of Congress and their staffs would be the only employees of a large employer in the exchanges, which are set to begin offering insurance in January.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/05/congress-and-an-exemption-from-obamacare/

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 09:57 AM

2. They are public employees, they should abide the same rules. Not "special" feel good rules so

 

Democrats and Republicans can virtue signal.

They should have the same benefit package that say, a uniformed SS guard at the White House gets.

Useless virtue signalling; feel free to ignore this one lads.

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Response to Shkreli (Reply #2)

Thu May 4, 2017, 07:46 PM

9. This exemption is still in the house bill that was passed today

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 11:00 AM

3. how bout we just

drop the "republicans bla bla" bullshit, eh?
This is congress. dim-o-crats have historically pulled the same shit, and in a lot of cases, in far more disgusting ways.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 01:18 PM

4. From DU

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 01:54 PM

5. Funny how when democrats in congress exempted themselves not a peep from the left...

What is it with you guys and double standards?

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 02:57 PM

6. Which exemption would that be?

President Obama recently issued a special rule for Congress and congressional staff to get a special subsidy to purchase health insurance on the Obamacare Exchange unavailable to every other American at similar income levels,” said Republican Sen. David Vitter. “That’s an exemption, plain and simple.”

FACTS:
When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges. What nobody accounted for at the time was that members of Congress and their staffers currently have health insurance through their employer – the federal government. No other employer has been legally required to drop its employee’s health care plan and have them buy coverage on the exchanges.

Like most other large employers, the federal government contributes a portion to the premiums of its employees. In fact, like many employers, the federal government pays most of the premiums for its workers; an average of 72 percent on Capitol Hill. The law didn’t account for the continued employer contribution for these federal workers who would now be buying their insurance on the exchanges. The exchanges were designed to help people without health insurance and people with overly expensive health insurance. It became clear that without their employer contribution, members and their staffers would essentially be getting a cut in pay and benefits equal to thousands of dollars. Even Grassley, the provision’s author, had said the government should continue to contribute to lawmakers’ and staffers’ premiums. What the Obama administration has done is ruled that the congressional workers will continue to receive the employer contribution to help them buy their insurance on the exchange.

VERDICT:
False. Congress is no more exempt than any other employer who drops coverage and then helps employees purchase insurance on the exchanges.

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #5)

Thu May 4, 2017, 08:17 PM

12. Smells like a Right Wing lie. Show us how Democrats exempted themselves.

 

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #5)

Thu May 4, 2017, 09:49 PM

15. Hey Fake News Guy. Show us how the Democrats exempted themselves.

 

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Thu Apr 27, 2017, 03:40 PM

7. Ryan moves to ax lawmaker exemption in Obamacare repeal bill

Ha Ha. The GOP got caught and now has to back down http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/27/congress-exemption-obamacare-repeal-237672

House GOP leaders are moving quickly behind the scenes to iron out a wrinkle in their latest Obamacare repeal legislation: a controversial provision that preserves Obamacare coverage protections for members of Congress and their staffs while allowing states to opt out of them.

Late Wednesday night, the House Rules Committee posted the text of a one-page bill that strikes the exemption for lawmakers that caused such a ruckus for Republicans on Wednesday morning. Discovery of the loophole, first reported by Vox, had triggered charges of hypocrisy from Democrats the entire day.

The new bill, authored by Rep. Marha McSally (R-Ariz.), posted just as Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his top lieutenants exited a late-night conference to discuss whether they had the votes to hold the Obamacare repeal vote this week.

They don’t — at least not yet. While an endorsement from the conservative House Freedom Caucus gave Republicans much-needed momentum, leadership is still trying to nail down moderates wary of the latest draft. Some more traditional Republicans have also proven shaky in their support.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 06:08 PM

8. Republicans will vote for Trumpcare, taking away health care for millions ... but exempt themselves

The exemption for GOP members of congress is still in the bill that was passed today http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/4/1658818/-Republicans-will-vote-on-a-killing-Trumpcare-bill-that-still-exempts-them

House Republicans are voting on Zombie Trumpcare today, a bill most of them haven't read, that they don't understand, that hasn't been scored by the Congressional Budget Office, and that only 17 percent of the American public supports. They're voting to strip health insurance from at least 24 million people in the next decade and to end the protections for people with pre-existing conditions. Worse, they are voting on a bill that still exempts them from all that, with the promise that a later vote will fix that.

As Republicans rush to vote on their latest ObamaCare repeal-and-replace plan, it appears to still include a waiver exempting members of Congress and their staffs from losing the healthcare bill's popular provisions.
House GOP leaders worked Wednesday night to fast-track consideration of their ObamaCare replacement bill without posting the bill text and without a Congressional Budget Office analysis detailing the effects of the latest changes to the legislation.
After they vote for this bill that would definitely kill people if it makes it through the Senate, they'll take another vote to undo that part. Like, sort of an afterthought.

If this whole bill hadn't been cobbled together with spit and baling wire, if they had actually spent any of the LAST SEVEN YEARS thinking about how to do health policy, maybe they wouldn't be putting themselves in the really, really stupid position of voting to exempt themselves from a bill that could kill their constituents. Maybe they could even have taken the time before bringing this monstrosity to the floor to rewrite it and get that part out.

But they didn't. And everyone is going to remember this vote. John Kerry will assure them "voted for it before voting against it" is a winning message.
The GOP voted for a bill that exempts members of congress

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 08:09 PM

10. I'm so tired of Gopper talking points, lies and alternative facts...

The truth:

"A bit of background is helpful here. Obamacare requires all members of Congress and their staff to purchase coverage on the individual market, just like Obamacare enrollees. The politics of that plank were simple enough, meant to demonstrate that if the coverage in this law were good enough for Americans than it should be good enough for their representations in Washington."

http://www.factcheck.org/2013/05/congress-and-an-exemption-from-obamacare/

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Response to ProgressiveTaxation (Reply #10)

Thu May 4, 2017, 09:41 PM

13. The Right has nothing without their lies.

 

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Response to ProgressiveTaxation (Reply #10)

Thu May 4, 2017, 09:47 PM

14. How did you miss this?

"The “exempt” claims were sparked by a Politico report on April 24 that said secret talks were being held by lawmakers to change the requirement to get insurance through the exchanges because of this concern. The headline on the story said “Lawmakers, aides may get Obamacare exemption.”"

Seems like these were once Dummy talking points....

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 10:25 PM

16. Does ShariaBlue offer a health insurance policy?

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Thu May 4, 2017, 11:24 PM

17. "...that exempts Members of Congress and their staff from their latest health care plan."

...why sure, Republicans don't want to die a slow, agonizing and untimely death under Trumpcare...

...would you?

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