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Tue May 9, 2017, 12:19 PM

Why Liberals Aren't as Tolerant as They Think They Are

I don't think this comes as a surprise to anyone. Human nature being what it is, we tend to dislike people who are different.

I think if you are entrenched in your own ideology, you tend to look down on those who don't share your views. I think DI demonstrates on a daily basis how people who are bogged down on the left and on the right can be pretty darn intolerant.

Worth reading the whole thing:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114

As predicted, conservatives were more discriminatory than liberals toward liberal groups, and liberals were more discriminatory than conservatives toward conservative groups. Conservatives’ discrimination was driven by their higher traditionalism and by liberal groups’ apparent violation of their values. Liberals’ discrimination was driven by their lower traditionalism and by conservative groups’ apparent violation of their values. Complicating matters, conservatives highly valued self-reliance, which weakened their discrimination toward liberal groups, perhaps because self-reliance is associated with the freedom to believe or do what one wants. And liberals highly valued universalism, which weakened their discrimination toward conservative groups, likely because universalism espouses acceptance of all.

But these differences didn’t affect the larger picture: Liberals were as discriminatory toward conservative groups as conservatives were toward liberal groups. And Brandt’s findings have been echoed elsewhere: Independently and concurrently, the labs of John Chambers at St. Louis University and Jarret Crawford at The College of New Jersey have also found approximately equal prejudice among conservatives and liberals.

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Regardless of who has the more toxic intolerance, the fact remains that people have trouble getting along. What to do? “One of the most consistent ways to increase tolerance is contact with the other side and sharing the experience of working toward a goal,” Brandt says. He suggests starting with the person next door. “Everyone benefits from safe neighborhoods, a stimulating cultural environment and reliable snow removal,” he says. “If liberal and conservative neighbors can find ways to work together on the local level to improve their neighborhoods and communities, it might help to increase tolerance in other domains.” (If you can find a neighbor of the opposite party, that is.)



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Reply Why Liberals Aren't as Tolerant as They Think They Are (Original post)
The Center Holds May 2017 OP
The Center Holds May 2017 #1
Grumpy Pickle May 2017 #2
The Center Holds May 2017 #3
It Guy May 2017 #14
Aldar May 2017 #4
The Center Holds May 2017 #6
Dexter Morgan May 2017 #5
The Center Holds May 2017 #7
Dexter Morgan May 2017 #9
The Center Holds May 2017 #10
It Guy May 2017 #15
ProLapse May 2017 #8
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It Guy May 2017 #16
ProLapse May 2017 #20
meanitt May 2017 #11
Ravenquills May 2017 #12
It Guy May 2017 #17
Ravenquills May 2017 #21
It Guy May 2017 #23
Ravenquills May 2017 #13
It Guy May 2017 #18
Nostrings May 2017 #19
swifty May 2017 #22

Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:21 PM

1. Worlds Apart

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:24 PM

2. Liberals are not tolerant.

They scream and cry if you don't agree with everything they say.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #2)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:25 PM

3. Some do. Some conservatives do the same.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #2)

Tue May 9, 2017, 06:31 PM

14. Their so called tolerance is just a ruse.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:27 PM

4. Because they are fascist

 

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Response to Aldar (Reply #4)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:38 PM

6. You are proving the research true.



Good job.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:27 PM

5. Liberals are only tolerant if you agree with them and if not they riot,protest,burn down stores and

shut down free speech..
Then they scream Republicans are fascists ..

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #5)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:39 PM

7. Do you mean to say that ALL liberals do this? Most? What percentage would you say?

What do conservatives do when you don't agree with them?

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #7)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:57 PM

9. A large percentage..And judging by recent events they are getting worse...


Nothing really, they hold a peaceful protest last group i believe was the Tea party meetings and i don't remember any looting burning stores or attacking cops...

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Response to Dexter Morgan (Reply #9)

Tue May 9, 2017, 01:25 PM

10. A large percentage? So--70%? 80%? 90%?

I think it is possible you are extrapolating from a very small number of loud and often violent troublemakers, and ascribing their actions to the vast bulk of liberals who are most definitely NOT going out and throwing rocks and attacking cops. I would be surprised if it was more than 5% of liberals who are being aggressive and unruly.

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Response to The Center Holds (Reply #10)

Tue May 9, 2017, 06:38 PM

15. Most of the anarchy created by the smaller pools of leftists goes unchecked by the larger pool of

leftists. The greatest reason is that they dare not speak out otherwise they too become castigated. A tyranny of the minority within their party.

So that leads me to believe that most democrats are nothing but a bunch of mealy mouthed people.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 12:56 PM

8. "One of the most consistent ways to increase tolerance is contact with the other side"

 

Nah. They mostly insist I have some sort of privilege because they get affirmative action and I don't. It makes communication useless because they always insist I owe them something.......even the ones who are here only 10 minutes insist I owe them something. I'm done.

Look at that Jewish lady that got culturally enriched the other day at her pool. I stay as far away from that as I can. Many of these young "people" are no more than violent animals who should be sterilized. In my group the guy who did that would have been beaten badly even by his friends. Some cultures don't stand up for old ladies though and instead prey on the weak.

If I were allowed to carry in those areas with no threat of civil suit when responding to the inevitable assault on me, I still wouldn't go because I find not a single bit of their culture desirable.

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Response to ProLapse (Reply #8)

Tue May 9, 2017, 06:42 PM

16. .



Let's bring back segregation in all aspects! In fact leftists want exactly that, let them.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #16)

Tue May 9, 2017, 07:15 PM

20. I agree. We should start by splitting along nationalist/globalist lines.

 

I would love seeing the "open borders" globalist's faces when they see they can't get into our side anymore and it is "throw a gay off a bridge day" or "stone uppity women week". MS13 running wild skinning people just like the home country. A neo-lib paradise for all our dem friends.

On the nationalist side, probably another patriotic parade day on our new roads from our new colleges and hospitals to the vibrant crime free city centers. USA USA USA!

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 01:46 PM

11. Conservatives are the epitome of intolerance

 

and they expect liberals to just shut up and take it. And when liberals don't, righty calls them hateful and intolerant.

“If liberal and conservative neighbors can find ways to work together on the local level to improve their neighborhoods and communities, it might help to increase tolerance in other domains.”

And if liberals just let righty kick them in the balls and spit in their faces another 1000 times, maybe they will get sick of doing it.

This OP was a day late and a dollar short a looooong time ago.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 01:52 PM

12. Maybe we ought to all remember

that we suffer from that thing called the Human Condition.

I read this article. I thought that perhaps we could knock off the fucking labels. The minute you label someone they will close their mind and tell you to go an fuck yourself. I know I do and i have seen it plenty of times here.

If you are deliberately inflammatory in even your screen name, then your goal is to force the opposition into a defensive place not into a place for dialogue.

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Response to Ravenquills (Reply #12)

Tue May 9, 2017, 06:47 PM

17. "deliberately inflammatory in even your screen name"

What about avatars? Do I win a prize here somewhere?

If there being some snide comment coming back, from anyone, please see my avatar. That's the purpose of it.

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Response to It Guy (Reply #17)

Wed May 10, 2017, 04:50 PM

21. No you do not anymore than i do

Not directed at you.....I just went for dark humor in both my avatar and my tagline...most people miss it but what the hell i can make myself laugh...and i can laugh at myself,. Human condition

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Response to Ravenquills (Reply #21)

Wed May 10, 2017, 09:24 PM

23. Fair enough. I've not figured out your AV or user name, then again, that's not high up on my list.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 01:57 PM

13. One last thing - The definition of tolerance

Definition of tolerance
1
: capacity to endure pain or hardship : endurance, fortitude, stamina
2
a : sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own
b : the act of allowing something : toleration
3
: the allowable deviation from a standard; especially : the range of variation permitted in maintaining a specified dimension in machining a piece
4
a (1) : the capacity of the body to endure or become less responsive to a substance (such as a drug) or a physiological insult especially with repeated use or exposure developed a tolerance to painkillers; also : the immunological state marked by unresponsiveness to a specific antigen (2) : relative capacity of an organism to grow or thrive when subjected to an unfavorable environmental factor


When you think about the definition, tolerance is not such a great thing, at best it is about indulging the other side it is not about actually listening to or acknowledging that they may actually have a point.

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Response to Ravenquills (Reply #13)

Tue May 9, 2017, 06:52 PM

18. Exactly right! So who is going around screaming tolerance? Who is it that's going around

and forcing their tolerance? Here's an oxymoron, liberal tolerance.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2017, 06:54 PM

19. I'll tolerate just about anyone and just about anything.

But when someone starts trying to restrict liberty for no good reason, my inclination changes from being tolerant, to wanting to dish out some bent teeth.

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Response to The Center Holds (Original post)

Wed May 10, 2017, 06:05 PM

22. Yes, both sides will judge one another.

But that doesn't mean they are equivalent. Both sides think the other is wrong. The liberal side just happens to have object fact on its side much more often. So in those many cases (most) liberals are right both about the facts and right that Republicans are wrong.

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