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Sat May 20, 2017, 01:06 PM

 

Serious question, for your thoughtful consideration. The trend these days in the Corporate Fascism

type government-for-sale scenario we are now faced with in the US, the end-all, beat-all is shareholder profit.

That has become the Holy Grail of so called "capitalism", its actually Corporatism, or Corporate Fascism as I have been calling it for many years...as I saw this coming on a couple decades ago. You probably did as well, doesn't take a genius.

My question to you, for your thoughtful consideration, is:

Who here truly believes that Trust Fund Billionaire Donald Trump, is actually going to go in and renegotiate NAFTA...and come up with an actual policy that is truly BETTER for the American worker, which any agreement of that nature would HAVE to mean less Corporate profit, and less dividend for the shareholder?

Who here truly believes that? And what have you seen Trump do....EVER.....that was borne of a genuine interest in improving anything for the "common man"....or the working class that makes up the vast majority of the nation?

If you can't answer.....just make some dumb comment about Obama or Hillary Clinton....OK?

Thank you in advance.

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Reply Serious question, for your thoughtful consideration. The trend these days in the Corporate Fascism (Original post)
ForrestTrump May 2017 OP
BigKahunna2.0 May 2017 #1
ForrestTrump May 2017 #3
BigKahunna2.0 May 2017 #8
ForrestTrump May 2017 #12
BigKahunna2.0 May 2017 #15
ForrestTrump May 2017 #16
Da Mannn May 2017 #19
Da Mannn May 2017 #17
D26-15 May 2017 #38
Dexter Morgan May 2017 #2
Nostrings May 2017 #4
ForrestTrump May 2017 #6
Nostrings May 2017 #22
ForrestTrump May 2017 #33
Nostrings May 2017 #44
mrwordsworth May 2017 #5
ForrestTrump May 2017 #9
mrwordsworth May 2017 #13
ForrestTrump May 2017 #14
mrwordsworth May 2017 #18
ForrestTrump May 2017 #20
mrwordsworth May 2017 #21
ForrestTrump May 2017 #23
mrwordsworth May 2017 #29
toast-chef May 2017 #25
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy May 2017 #26
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy May 2017 #7
ForrestTrump May 2017 #10
WhiskeyMakesMeHappy May 2017 #11
Currentsitguy May 2017 #24
ForrestTrump May 2017 #30
Currentsitguy May 2017 #43
JaimeBondoJr May 2017 #27
ForrestTrump May 2017 #31
rondan May 2017 #28
ForrestTrump May 2017 #32
turquoise May 2017 #34
ForrestTrump May 2017 #35
turquoise May 2017 #36
ForrestTrump May 2017 #37
turquoise May 2017 #39
ForrestTrump May 2017 #40
D26-15 May 2017 #41
turquoise May 2017 #42
Trevor May 2017 #45
ForrestTrump May 2017 #46

Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:14 PM

1. Corporate profit is a good thing. ROI to the shareholders is why they take the risk.

Investors invest where they get the best ROI and employees move to where they get the best return for their education and labor

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Response to BigKahunna2.0 (Reply #1)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:18 PM

3. Re read the question. You didn't answer it. Thank you.

 

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #3)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:25 PM

8. Your question is stupid and I have no need to read stupid again.

I addressed your foolish comments about shareholders, profits and capitalism.

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Response to BigKahunna2.0 (Reply #8)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:29 PM

12. And ANOTHER one that can join Dexxie and BMANN, lol. Buh bye! Maybe try something

 

other than "derrrrrr you're stupid" next time, adults aren't really entertained by that.

Have a nice life!

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #12)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:34 PM

15. It is truly pitiful that you are so ill-informed about business in the real world

But go ahead, just keep popping off about things you don't understand

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Response to BigKahunna2.0 (Reply #15)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:45 PM

19. Socialists never understand the real world,

its why all they regimes fail and end up as dictatorships

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #12)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:42 PM

17. You too can join the ForestTrump Ignore Club!

It doesn't take much. All I said was, "Trump doesn't bow before kings."

Forest announces it like its a punishment of sorts...really all it does is prevent his trolling your threads. That's more Trump #Winning if you ask me!

Join today its fun and easy!

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Response to Da Mannn (Reply #17)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:52 PM

38. A sock putting posters on ignore... gotta love it.

Did Bobby ever tell you about his sleeve tattoo... he thinks that's really "kewl" too.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:16 PM

2. "Corporate Fascism". I guess that means you have no money.......

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:20 PM

4. Does the questioner support the individual mandate of the ACA?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #4)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:24 PM

6. I asked a question. Please....answer the question. Don't just ask another

 

question, about a completely unrelated topic.

God do I have to teach you people EVERYTHING? -smh-

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #6)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:58 PM

22. If you support the individual mandate, you have no business asking the question.

Because you support requiring commerce with big corporations.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #22)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:25 PM

33. Reading comprehension. You need improvement in that area.*

 

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #33)

Sat May 20, 2017, 06:34 PM

44. Run, Forrest, run!

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:23 PM

5. Who in America puts all of their faith in politicians anymore?

 

Who would have been a better choice than Trump?

Can cronyism exist when government doesn't have so much power over people? The power to make or break business with something like a healthcare law? Endorsed by Wal-Mart but not smaller competitors.

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #5)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:25 PM

9. You ask several completely irrelevant and unrelated questions....but you did

 

not answer my question. Do you know what "non sequitur" means? You should find out.

Re read the post....and try again. Thank you.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #9)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:30 PM

13. How does corporate cronyism exist

 

When government can't write laws that favor one over the other?

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #13)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:34 PM

14. And ANOTHER question. I must conclude that you are not a person who easily comprehends

 

what you read.

Thanks anyway, I didn't expect much in the way of responses...and I'm sure not getting much.

When you become a little more proficient at comprehending what you read....maybe you will try again?

OK good....its settled then.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #14)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:44 PM

18. Maybe you should ask questions

 

That will get easier responses.

Your OP and responses tell me that you're angry. Many people are. My response answers your questions but requires you to take a break from being outraged and think.

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #18)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:48 PM

20. It is not my concern or interest at all to try to ask questions that will be "easy to respond to". I

 

intentionally avoid doing that, because I want the person to stop and think about the issues I am presenting, and not just completely ignore them and go to dumb Obama comments, or start asking other, completely unrelated, questions as a "response".

I think that maybe....physician: HEAL THYSELF.

>>requires you to take a break from being outraged and think.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #20)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:53 PM

21. You spend half of the time insulting the intelligence of me and others in your thread

 

But then admit you created a thread to which no one would likely give you a sufficient answer.

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #21)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:05 PM

23. You spend half of the time insulting the intelligence of me and others

 

Well, add irony to the list of things you haven't yet fully grasped.

Its right there....next to reading comprehension on the list.

Thank you. Good job.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #23)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:43 PM

29. My vultures exact like rack and pinion in a jag

 

You try to brag, you get your rhymes from a grab-bag
No good scavenger catfish vulture
My tongue's a chisel in this competition sculpture

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Response to mrwordsworth (Reply #21)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:09 PM

25. If I may, I think this is appropo --

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #14)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:10 PM

26. Trolling trolling trolling, keep those posts, a-trolling.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:24 PM

7. Trolling trolling trolling, keep those posts, a-trolling.

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Response to WhiskeyMakesMeHappy (Reply #7)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:25 PM

10. Pitiful*

 

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #10)

Sat May 20, 2017, 01:27 PM

11. Trolling trolling trolling, keep those posts, a-trolling.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:07 PM

24. Perhaps you ask a question

That causes people to engage, instead of setting yourself up for reinforcement of your own beliefs and self affirmation. This is, after all, a board dedicated to back and fourth, not GOTCHA!!

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Response to Currentsitguy (Reply #24)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:00 PM

30. OK. Your post is worded to be very ambiguous, on the one hand I take it as

 

a compliment >>instead of setting yourself up for reinforcement of your own beliefs and self affirmation.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #30)

Sat May 20, 2017, 06:04 PM

43. Some of us here are here to discuss, not score points. YMMV

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:32 PM

27. The easy answer is NO politician has your best interest at heart.

To believe otherwise is to expose yourself as a useful idiot.

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Response to JaimeBondoJr (Reply #27)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:03 PM

31. So your answer then is "No, I do not believe Donald Trump is actually going

 

to renegotiate NAFTA for the good of the American worker".

On that: we agree.

And I do think that there are many politicians that try to do a good job for their constituents, the record is clear as far as who is voting for and against whatever bills that are put forth in the legislature. So I disagree with the "No politician cares about your interests", I know for a fact that isn't the case.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 02:39 PM

28. Well, thats the way our economy is set up right now.

It is set up so that the ones at the top get first dibs, and the rest of us wait for the trickle down.

As far as Trump renegotiating NAFTA, as usual, he is not being very smart about it. If Canada and Mexico are making out under the current agreement, why should they renegotiate. They may sit there, but they won't agree to anything.

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Response to rondan (Reply #28)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:06 PM

32. I do not disagree with your post, and you were civil about it, so that would

 

have to be a step above most I read here.

I would add that yes "it is the way we're set up right now"....well THAT shits gotta change and ASAP, its killing the nation very quickly now.

I trace many of these problems to the fact that we do have "government for sale" now, its basically a money raising contest, "money is free speech"....LOL, we won't get this country back on track until we clean up the money situation in politics.
"Citizens United", you most likely am aware of what I'm speaking of.

Oh well....just my $.02

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:31 PM

34. Whenever I see "honest question" or "serious question" in an OP,

I know what's coming.

And, in closing, TPP.

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Response to turquoise (Reply #34)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:43 PM

35. OK. So you are not capable of answering a simple question....that asks for

 

basically an opinion.

Pretty profound stuff.

And...."TPP", I have no idea what that means. I am guessing that you are inferring that I must support TPP the trade agreement, because it is something that Obama, mistakenly, pushed for.

And that because I shriek mindlessly in support of TPP, because Obama, then I therefore am not allowed to oppose any trade agreements.

Well, you'd be mistaken. Never supported TPP, never support NAFTA, and its unbelievably weak the default to hyperpartisanship that so many take here.

So your answer was basically: "OBAMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAA"

Yeahhhhhhhh. -yawn-

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #35)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:45 PM

36. Not capable? Played out, childish message board game. Pass..

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Response to turquoise (Reply #36)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:48 PM

37. Well,if "you'll pass", you're doing a very piss poor job

 

of it...seeing how you're sitting here actually typing into the forum....but not even the slightest attempt to just answer the question.

You have a great day "passing" now fella....ya hear?

>rolls eyes

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #37)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:52 PM

39. Two tantrums in a row. Care to go for three?

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Response to turquoise (Reply #39)

Sat May 20, 2017, 03:55 PM

40. -yawn- Welcome to my ignore list. Enjoy your stay.

 

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #40)

Sat May 20, 2017, 04:01 PM

41. You wanted to be back here so bad that you're operating with a sock,

yet you're claiming that you are putting posters on ignore?

It doesn't get much funnier than that.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Reply #40)

Sat May 20, 2017, 04:54 PM

42. So, yes.

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Response to ForrestTrump (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:44 PM

45. I hope this passes for answering your question

because nobody else passed.

I think Trump will work on renegotiation and get some of what he wants. He won't be interested in protecting workers. He'll protect industries. We'll all get stuck with higher prices.

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Response to Trevor (Reply #45)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:34 AM

46. There were 1 or 2 other real answers, they didn't ALL fail. Yes, he'll "renegotiate"...and the

 

result will be the American worker will be worse off than ever.

I Don't disagree with that at all.

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