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Wed May 24, 2017, 10:27 PM

FORBES: There Remains No Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion


What 'Extensive' Russian Network of Trump?

An inventory of Trump-Russia “smoke” consists of the following: A peripheral Trump associate purportedly communicated with the hacker (or hacking group) identified as Guccifer 2.0. (How he did so I could not know). Maxine Waters (D-CA) hypothesized that Russian propagandists trained Trump. Others cite the 18 contacts (declared innocuous by the intelligence community) between the Trump campaign and Russia in the last seven months of the campaign. High on the smoke list is the paid speech ($43,000) by Trump advisor Michael Flynn (who failed to disclose an otherwise-legal conversation with the Russian ambassador). A final puff of smoke is former Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort’s, consulting work for unsavory Ukrainian/Russian politicians and oligarchs.

Three contacts per month do not add up to an “unusually extensive network.” Note that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had “lots of meetings” with Russian officials including Ambassador Kislyak during the campaign, Bill Clinton delivered a $500,000 speech to a Russian oligarch in 2010. The insider Democratic lobbying behemoth, Podesta Group, charged a Kremlin-associated bank $170,000 for lobbying in 2016 for removal of sanctions and $60,000 to Uranium One in 2015 to lobby for a huge uranium deal in favor of Russia. Manafort directed his wealthy Ukrainian/Russia clients to the Podesta Group, which cashed in more than a million dollars in lobbying fees. Democrat heavyweight Lanny Davis represented a fugitive oligarch, who also happened to be a Manafort client. Yes, indeed, Washington’s K-Street swamp is deep and incestuously blurs party affiliation.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/05/23/there-remains-no-evidence-of-trump-russia-collusion/#1ab71f26242c

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U.S.Awesome May 2017 OP
Immacolata May 2017 #1
U.S.Awesome May 2017 #2
Immacolata May 2017 #3
MeatSandwich May 2017 #4
Immacolata May 2017 #6
MeatSandwich May 2017 #7
Dexter Morgan May 2017 #5
Fiendish Thingy-BC May 2017 #8
Badsamm May 2017 #9

Response to U.S.Awesome (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 10:40 PM

1. Paul Roderick Gregory is a right wing tool.

He is the very definition of the word BIASED.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 10:43 PM

2. Just curious:

Did he write anything specific you care to refute? What did he say that was biased?

There were a few passages I read that I thought could be taken as having a biased view, just wondering if you found the same ones as me

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Response to U.S.Awesome (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:13 PM

3. There was the ever-favorite "But Hillary" shtick for one.

But the man himself contributes to Forbes, National Review and he's a fellow at the Hoover Institution? He's a right wing wet dream.

He claims there is no evidence which is another lie. The CIA, the FBI, the Treasury, the Dept. of Defense, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the Senate Judiciary Committee, the House Intelligence Committee, and the House Oversight Committee do not start investigations on a whim. Then there's the fact that to me, lends strong credence to the allegation that there was collusion - he fired the freaking FBI Director!

Please do not be a hypocrite. If this was all on Hillary you guys would be foaming at the mouth and the Internet would be clogged with virtual right wing spittle.

I am not trying to be mean, but I wish you guys would just wake up. This goes beyond Right and Left. You can't defend this man, you just can't.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #3)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:22 PM

4. Please cite for us the crime that is being committed here. Is collusion a crime?

Alan Dershowitz says there is no underlying crime.


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Response to MeatSandwich (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:41 PM

6. If it is not (and I am not a lawyer) then it should be.

But in this case, the cover up stinks. Why did he fire the FBI director? What is he trying to hide?

Inquiring minds want to know. Numerous intelligence agencies want to know. So should you.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #6)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:23 AM

7. I say, let them investigate and determine what happened.

In the mean time, the MSM and others should stop calling collusion a crime - it is not.

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Response to Immacolata (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:25 PM

5. Yet with all the leaks coming out of the White House not one shred of evidence....

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Response to U.S.Awesome (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:56 AM

8. Ya know, collusion ain't the only scandal in town...

Lots of "smoke" pointing to perjury, obstruction of justice and money laundering and other financial crimes. I'm content to let the special prosecutor do his job and see what he and his team's findings are.

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Response to U.S.Awesome (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 01:03 AM

9. Feinstein can finally take credit for being correct.

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