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Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:35 AM

The Invisibles: The cruel Catch-22 of being poor with no ID

The GOP is the party of voter suppression and has to cheat to win elections. Voter id laws are designed to keep poor people from voting https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/what-happens-to-people-who-cant-prove-who-they-are/2017/06/14/fc0aaca2-4215-11e7-adba-394ee67a7582_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.f786d9833c76

Patricia Brown couldn’t prove her identity. On a Saturday morning in May last year, she rushed into the basement of Washington’s Foundry United Methodist Church, frantic that she would miss its I.D. Ministry hours. She took deep breaths as she reached the bright-yellow room crowded with narrow tables, where people sat poring over papers. Without valid identification, she couldn’t get housing or work, her food stamps or medication. She sat in a metal chair beside me, wiping away sweat from her forehead. The volunteer across from us looked concerned as Brown reviewed an intake checklist: Social Security card? No. Birth certificate? No. ID? Expired.

“So, we don’t have anything?” the volunteer asked. No. Nothing.

I’d seen situations like Brown’s many times. I volunteered at the I.D. Ministry from January 2015 to March 2016. Two Saturday mornings a month, I would help the ministry’s poor or homeless clients navigate the bureaucracy of acquiring government identification. For most people, replacing a lost driver’s license or other ID is an inconvenience but not an ordeal. For Foundry’s clients, however, the path to an ID is more like a high-stakes test of endurance and resourcefulness.

Brown, 61, a former receptionist, had taken three buses from Northeast Washington to the church at 16th and P streets NW, but it was clear she had been on a longer journey. After her mother’s death in April 2014, Brown lost the apartment they had shared. She returned from the grocery store one day to find her belongings on the sidewalk. She had been evicted.

“I tried to ... salvage what I could, but I was by myself,” she said. Her Social Security card and birth certificate were among the things lost that day. Since then, she had been floating from couch to couch among acquaintances, paying her hosts what she could and trying not to overstay her welcome. When I asked about her current housing, she said only, “It’s not a good situation.”

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Reply The Invisibles: The cruel Catch-22 of being poor with no ID (Original post)
Letmypeoplevote Jun 2017 OP
Letmypeoplevote Jun 2017 #1
Badsamm Jun 2017 #5
Lefty Jun 2017 #25
pavulon-lives Jun 2017 #2
kevlar Jun 2017 #15
MumblyPeg Jun 2017 #3
Badsamm Jun 2017 #4
Cave Dweller Jun 2017 #6
Dumper Jun 2017 #7
Ax Crazy Jun 2017 #14
DoDaMan Jun 2017 #8
oflguy Jun 2017 #11
DDKick Jun 2017 #9
oflguy Jun 2017 #10
DoDaMan Jun 2017 #12
DavesNotHere Jun 2017 #13
oflguy Jun 2017 #17
Grumpy Pickle Jun 2017 #16
oflguy Jun 2017 #18
rahtruelies Jun 2017 #19
rampartb Jun 2017 #20
DoDaMan Jun 2017 #22
rampartb Jun 2017 #23
Dumper Jun 2017 #24
Letmypeoplevote Jun 2017 #27
rampartb Jun 2017 #28
I814U2CY Jun 2017 #21
Letmypeoplevote Jun 2017 #26
Da Mannn Jun 2017 #30
Da Mannn Jun 2017 #29

Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:38 AM

1. This is what its like to try to get a Voter ID when youre disabled, poor or dont drive

The voter id law is designed to stop only poor people from voting http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/29/this-is-what-its-like-to-try-to-get-a-voter-id-when-youre-disabled-poor-or-dont-drive/

What's the big deal about getting an ID? You need one, after all, to participate in society in all kinds of other ways — to drive, to get married, to buy beer. Surely the requirement to show an ID on Election Day can't be that burdensome.

This is a common defense of Voter ID laws like the kind now on the books in Texas, ostensibly meant to curb voter fraud. But it glosses over the reality of life for some voters, who may struggle to get around because of disabilities, who may lack the seemingly small sums necessary to pay for documentation, who may not have the flexible scheduling to visit a government office twice, or three times, or more.

Small obstacles like these are magnified in the frantic days leading up to the election — and add to this the confusion that ensues when people who have voted for years are suddenly told at their familiar polling places they don't have what they need this time...

These stories come from both the Brennan Center's own investigation on the ground in Texas and through advocacy organizations working with voters there. Such testimonials don't tell us much about the scale of voters blocked from voting by ID laws. But they offer a window into why the requirement to obtain an ID can be more problematic than it sounds.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:44 AM

5. I'll bet everyone of the "poor" people have a flat screen and a cell phone.

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Response to Badsamm (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 04:09 PM

25. Yeah ...like when 2% turns into 99%.

If the cons were honest and had a tinge of introspect they'd admit the examples they use are in a very small minority of cheating fat moms with 12 kids and a new Cadillac.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:40 AM

2. Illegals love my state for the DL process

They come in in vans, speak little to no English, but still manage to get the legal requirements to drive. Amazing.

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Response to pavulon-lives (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:35 PM

15. Add in some motor voter

and they are automatically registered to vote.

Hell of a scam the democrats have been running.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:42 AM

3. Thats a pretty

big write-up for someone who just needed to go to the BMV with 4 bucks

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:42 AM

4. The woman is 61. If she was 18 with no job experience I might feel sorry

A full grown woman with no id, sorry but you don't deserve to vote. Pull your shit together and then you get to join the rest of us.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:47 AM

6. And WTF does this have to do with voter suppression.

Patricia had an ID, and lost it. For 2 years, 2 YEARS from 2014 till 2016 she did not have an ID. Where were the democrats in DC to help her? DC is a democratic controlled city. Seems that they are the ones that are not stepping up and doing what they can to help people.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:57 AM

7. How do poor want-to-be gun owners exercise their Const. Rights?

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Fees. classes, hard to find locations, delays, applications, etc; all to exercise their 1st Amendment Rights? Kinda like a gun 'poll tax.'

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:00 AM

8. It's a shame that democrats parade these folks out in their fake concern.

If their party and voters were actually compassionate, they'd haul her over and get an ID and donate a few bucks. But no, they'd rather exploit her.

Democrats sure are some evil mofo's.

I'm to assume also that she always voted democrat.....look how far that got her. No doubt she voted against her own best interest...proof is in where she is now.

Abandon the democratic party folks, they will abandon you just like they abandoned this lady.

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Response to DoDaMan (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:19 AM

11. Hillary OR Bill could have paid for a new birth certificate with Russian money

Uranium ain't cheap

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:02 AM

9. Imagine how the billion $$$ spent on Losing Hillary

Would have been better spent by helping the poor in all 57 states?

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:16 AM

10. Why didn't she get a new birth certificate?

They don't cost that much

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Response to oflguy (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:33 AM

12. Sources say she went to the Clinton Foundation and asked for help

but they told her to get lost. Said that their money only goes to helping Haitians verses Americans citizens.

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Response to DoDaMan (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:03 PM

13. If it's any consolation, their money doesn't really go to helping Haitians either.

It just passes through Haiti on it's way to getting clean. The good it may do on it's way through is strictly coincidental.

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Response to DoDaMan (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:37 PM

17. My sources say the same thing

It has to be true

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:35 PM

16. This is pure bullshit.

You can get an ID for $15 .......the cost of two packs of cigarettes.

Funny how people can always find money for cigarettes and such but can't ( won't ) get an ID.

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Response to Grumpy Pickle (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:45 PM

18. The only way they can advance their agenda is to lie and deceive


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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:38 PM

19. ********************* FAKE NEWS ALERT FROM THE 57 STATES************

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:42 PM

20. i've been helping people get ids for several years now

it is incredibly difficult to get an id unless you already have one. foreclosure, homelessness, jail time, fire and flood all contribute to the loss of identifying paperwork.

the conservatives who answered this thread are obviously uninformed about the difficulty. a few dollars amd a ride to the dmv begins the process, which might take months or years in some cases.

i think a process allowing fingerprints, or dna, as primary identification would be very helpful.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:59 PM

22. Mexicans can travel hundreds of miles on foot, cross arid deserts, jump a border and

end up with an ID, but in U.S citizens case it's too much of an effort to walk a few blocks. Always gotta blame "The Man" for holding them down.

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Response to DoDaMan (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:18 PM

23. i think those mexicans have employers, well connected in small communities

who arrange for that id.

tell me, doda, if it is so easy to get id, why make checking them so important?

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Response to rampartb (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:24 PM

24. 'm dizzy from your circular reasoning/logic(sic).

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Response to rampartb (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 24, 2017, 03:18 PM

27. There is a group here in Houston that does this

I have used some of their materials to help people get ids.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #27)

Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:06 PM

28. are they on line?

i'll search

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:05 PM

21. These poor ID-less souls aren't allowed to attend dem party functions.

 

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Sat Jun 24, 2017, 03:17 PM

26. Without identification, poor people stay in the shadowsand Republicans want it that way

Lack of identification hurt poor people and keep them from being able to vote https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/19/1673183/-Without-identification-poor-people-stay-in-the-shadows-and-Republicans-want-it-that-way

Imagine trying to navigate life in the United States without having some kind of identification. Without an ID, it’s near impossible to obtain lawful employment, register your children for school, and apply for housing, health care, or other forms of government assistance. It may seem hard to believe that people who are born in this country wouldn’t have access to a driver’s license or some other state-issued identification to establish their identity. But for many people who are homeless or low-income, it is an unfortunate reality.

As of 2006, according to New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice, up to 11 percent of U.S. adults had no government-provided photo ID. Since then, federal requirements for IDs have grown tougher, contributing to a loop that can help keep people trapped in poverty. For poor Americans, IDs are a lifeline — a key to unlocking services and opportunities, from housing to jobs to education. And in states with strict voter ID laws, the lack of an ID can hinder voting. “This is a huge issue for people who are homeless and poor in general,” says Maria Foscarinis, executive director of the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty. “Without an ID, basically you don’t exist.”
There are a number of reasons why some folks don’t have photo identification. It can be time-intensive and costly to fight with government agencies to locate copies of birth certificates, social security cards, and duplicate IDs. People may not have access to reliable transportation which would get them to these sites in the first place. Once they get there, they often don’t have the necessary documentation to prove they are who they say.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:12 PM

30. So Poor they can't afford FREE ID?

sucks to be them. I wouldn't let them vote either.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Sat Jun 24, 2017, 04:11 PM

29. 61 with no SS#, no birth cert, no way to prove her ID...and its the GOP's fault?

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