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Tue Sep 12, 2017, 06:51 PM

Homeland Security issues key waiver Border Wall to begin

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/homeland-security-issues-key-waiver-allowing-border-wall-construction-begin/

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Reply Homeland Security issues key waiver Border Wall to begin (Original post)
bruiserboy Sep 12 OP
Ruby Sep 12 #1
RCW2014 Sep 12 #2
Ruby Sep 12 #3
RCW2014 Sep 12 #5
Ruby Sep 12 #6
RCW2014 Sep 12 #7
Ruby Sep 12 #8
Grumpy Pickle Sep 12 #4

Response to bruiserboy (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:24 PM

1. Let the expropriation begin.

I hope Mexico is ponying up to pay for the law suits, as well as the wall. 2/3rds of the border is private property.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:31 PM

2. Private property until it isn't. See eminent domain declared when Eisenhower authorized

the Interstate highway system. And then before that the railways...

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:41 PM

3. Property owners don't like it though.

I can't say as I blame them.

Check it out:

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The border presents difficult terrain, both for seizing and, eventually, building on. Much of it is owned by wealthy landholders, especially in Texas, where they’ve built orchards, golf courses, and ranches. Some private property claims date back to centuries-old Spanish land grants.

American Indians also own extensive amounts of land along the border. In Arizona, leaders of the Tohono O’odham Nation, which controls vast swaths of border territory, have called for Standing Rock-like protests if the wall comes to pass, in part because it would split up their territory between two countries.

The Bush-era effort to build more border fencing ran into many costly eminent domain issues involved in obtaining that private property, cites the Wall Street Journal. Years after the 2006 Secure Fences Act, the U.S. government still only owns 100 miles of the 1,254-mile Texas-Mexico border. And as of December 2016, 120 cases involving eminent-domain seizure for the fence were still tied up in federal court.
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Some of these property owners sound like they could be Trumps pals. I think he's in for a hell of a fight.

Lots more info:

https://www.curbed.com/2017/5/8/15559110/trump-wall-mexico-border-eminent-domain

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Response to Ruby (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:45 PM

5. Tough shit. They will be fairly compensated as were the folks of yesteryears.

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:06 PM

6. When I was growing up,

The state took most of my neighborhood via eminent domain. They bought all the houses on the other side of my street and two streets beyond that. None of the homeowners were offered what what their homes were worth, and when they held out, the offers went down.

Eventually all the houses where my friends had lived were empty. Not for long though, the state rented out those houses to low income families before they tore them down. Of course the value of the remaining houses turned to shit. Our nice middle class neighborhood became a place where families of 10 or more non-English speakers filled houses made for a family of 4. It was horrible.

We ended up selling our house for a fraction of what it was worth before the state decided that a new bridge was more important than people's lives.

"Fair compensation" is a myth on multiple levels.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:17 PM

7. Life is a bitch if only you become weak... eom

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Response to RCW2014 (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 08:31 PM

8. Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

You'd be fine with the government stealing your property I guess?

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Response to bruiserboy (Original post)

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 07:43 PM

4. Mexico is a bad neighbor.

There would be no need for the fence / wall if they wouldn't be such azzholes.

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