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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:11 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
Hey Aldar, if you want to message people, how about using the PM function?
Rather than blowing the dog whistle of cowardice.
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51 replies, 760 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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liberalguy | Oct 2017 | OP |
Cold Warrior | Oct 2017 | #1 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #2 | |
quad489 | Oct 2017 | #7 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #8 | |
Fred Sanford | Oct 2017 | #9 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #10 | |
Fred Sanford | Oct 2017 | #16 | |
Sjond | Oct 2017 | #38 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #47 | |
quad489 | Oct 2017 | #12 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #15 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #48 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #51 | |
def_con5 | Oct 2017 | #33 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #43 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #45 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #3 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #4 | |
Banshee 3 Actual | Oct 2017 | #5 | |
Aldar | Oct 2017 | #17 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #18 | |
Aldar | Oct 2017 | #21 | |
liberalguy | Oct 2017 | #23 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #26 | |
Aldar | Oct 2017 | #31 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #39 | |
Aldar | Oct 2017 | #30 | |
It Guy | Oct 2017 | #34 | |
Fred Sanford | Oct 2017 | #19 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #20 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #28 | |
Magyar Heidinn | Oct 2017 | #6 | |
Fred Sanford | Oct 2017 | #11 | |
Magyar Heidinn | Oct 2017 | #13 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #24 | |
Magyar Heidinn | Oct 2017 | #27 | |
Aldar | Oct 2017 | #32 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #25 | |
Magyar Heidinn | Oct 2017 | #29 | |
It Guy | Oct 2017 | #35 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #37 | |
Magyar Heidinn | Oct 2017 | #40 | |
Horsefeathers | Oct 2017 | #42 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #49 | |
Aldar | Oct 2017 | #14 | |
MountainDew | Oct 2017 | #22 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #36 | |
MountainDew | Oct 2017 | #41 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #44 | |
MountainDew | Oct 2017 | #46 | |
Will Morningstar | Oct 2017 | #50 |
Response to liberalguy (Original post)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:14 PM
Cold Warrior (10,595 posts)
1. This will come as no surprise
Voted to leave.
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Response to Cold Warrior (Reply #1)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:18 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
2. There is nothing that infuriates me more about online forums
than dog whistling from those who think they own the place. "Hey everyone! Look at this person who disagrees with you! Let's throw rocks at him!"
That behavior is for cowards who can't articulate a coherent argument. Candidly, I wish this were the kind of forum culture in which my OP AND the one to which it refers were hidden. But it's not. |
Response to liberalguy (Reply #2)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:11 PM
quad489 (20,290 posts)
7. Would be better for all if no postings were hidden. Let the BS stay out there for all to see & enjoy
![]() and do something to eliminate the sock puppets. |
Response to quad489 (Reply #7)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:20 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
8. I think that enforcing the TOS is a worthwhile and honorable endeavor.
The only rule that gets reliably enforced is the one against commercial spam.
https://www.discussionist.com/?com=termsofservice I'm as annoyed by sock accounts as you are, but that problem is not within my scope. |
Response to liberalguy (Reply #8)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:22 PM
Fred Sanford (13,224 posts)
9. We all have the power, as jury voters on this site, to remove sock accounts.*
Response to Fred Sanford (Reply #9)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:23 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
10. a) Really... Fred? You want to go here?
b) No. Our job as jurors is to enforce the TOS.
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Response to liberalguy (Reply #10)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:31 PM
Fred Sanford (13,224 posts)
16. Many here feel that sock accounts violate the TOS.
And if they want to rid the board of them, they themselves have the power to do so.
So far, folks here haven't taken that step to eliminate all sock accounts. But the ability to do so is certainly there. |
Response to liberalguy (Reply #10)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:26 PM
Sjond (957 posts)
38. There is no more TOS. It's just a page with words on it that you click yes to.
There are no admins.
The owners do not give a flying fuck about this place. There is just the multiple account, righty sock jury army. Some of the most obnoxious and nasty right wing posters here have a 100% jury duty rating. What does that tell you? ![]() |
Response to Sjond (Reply #38)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:21 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
47. It tells you that my life is hell on earth.
We should be safe from the trolls for ten minutes or so while they go pleasure themselves.
Hey, trolls! You hurt me *real bad*! Fifteen minutes. |
Response to liberalguy (Reply #8)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:26 PM
quad489 (20,290 posts)
12. "commercial spam" and personal attacks are the only things that should be banned...
...and odds are the majority of the BS postings come from sock puppet accts. Should be easy for the webmasters to see which accts are originate from the same IP addresses...and ban them all.
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Response to quad489 (Reply #12)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:31 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
15. I'm ambivalent to the owners of this place, but nevertheless it's theirs.
If they say posters can't plant their racist and bigoted flags here, I'm okay with that. In fact, I prefer it.
Those with that motivation should post elsewhere. |
Response to liberalguy (Reply #15)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:24 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
48. I can't be ambivalent. Skinner gave the best twenty years of his life to you.
That's *got* to count for something.
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Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #48)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:32 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
51. I just consulted my checking account.....
... no, i'm right... You have it exactly backwards, in addition to my 10 + years of donations to DU, he sold my eyeballs and the words I wrote.
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Response to liberalguy (Reply #2)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:05 PM
def_con5 (11,733 posts)
33. I really try
but I must admit, I have a difficult time understanding the left sometimes.
I thought dog whistle meant racist. I thought it was code for a racist term. It appears you are using it in a different way, would you be kind enough to explain. |
Response to def_con5 (Reply #33)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:21 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
43. Dog whistle depends on context.
It could be used in many ways.
In a feminist discussion board "Hey gals, did you see the guy in this thread trying to mansplain to me?" In a racist discussion board "Hey guys come check out all the diversity on display!" In a conservative discussion board "Hey Morning Star and Marmot84, If this place is a cesspool and we make you sick, why do you hang around and keep posting? There is freedom of association in this country. Why are you still here?" In a clintonista discussion board: "Why are you and your BernieBro peers here? Your guy isn't even a democrat." All are dogwhistles intended to get the team's attention. |
Response to liberalguy (Reply #43)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:39 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
45. Thanks for this.
Several fragile Canadin teenagers have killed themselves in similar circumstances in the past few years. In Canada we have changed the Criminal Code to outlaw this type of behaviour. And no, we infringe on no-one's freedom of speech. The deaths of Andrea Bain and Rataiah Parsons were a wake-up call. Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater is not "freedom of speech" either.
I do not HAVE "low self-esteem", or "mental" or "emotional" stuff, but some do. These rules exist for their protection. If some goofs in a public-access place like this push some poor soul over the edge, you think they're going to tell you about it before they swallow mommy's sleeping pills? This is why we have criminalized this behaviour in Canada. |
Response to liberalguy (Original post)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:19 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
3. That's not messaging. They've been abusing me for 7 hours straight.
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #3)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:21 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
4. I have concluded that online forums should not be personal.
Personal information is a vector for attack that some see as an invitation.
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Response to liberalguy (Reply #4)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:28 PM
Banshee 3 Actual (46,740 posts)
5. PERSEC should be uppermost
Response to liberalguy (Reply #4)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:31 PM
Aldar (11,911 posts)
17. no one gives a fuck what "you" have concluded
you do not make the rules
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Response to Aldar (Reply #17)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:33 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
18. No, but I can read them. Do you want me to read them to you?
I'm a do-gooder like that - helping the less fortunate.
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Response to liberalguy (Reply #18)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:34 PM
Aldar (11,911 posts)
21. Call outs are not a TOS violation on DI
and beyond that F.O.
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Response to Aldar (Reply #21)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:39 PM
liberalguy (11,911 posts)
23. Perhaps not, but bigotry, harassment and personal attacks are. n/t
Response to liberalguy (Reply #23)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:47 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
26. Is "batshit crazy" "fruitcake" a personal attack?
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #26)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:57 PM
Aldar (11,911 posts)
31. I never called you that. (or anyone else)
Response to Aldar (Reply #31)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:27 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
39. Another guy did. My relentless tormentor. A dozen or more times.
Response to liberalguy (Reply #23)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:56 PM
Aldar (11,911 posts)
30. how is it living on fantasy island anyway?
Response to liberalguy (Reply #18)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:41 PM
It Guy (6,779 posts)
34. I'll bet you drive a Prius in the fast lane too. Some people just beg for it.
Response to Aldar (Reply #17)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:33 PM
Fred Sanford (13,224 posts)
19. That's what bothers the liberal so.*
Response to Aldar (Reply #17)
Will Morningstar This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Aldar (Reply #17)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:48 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
28. No, YOU do. That is the problem.
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #3)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:55 PM
Magyar Heidinn (6,736 posts)
6. Some purposely lend themselves to be abused.
Last edited Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:30 PM - Edit history (1) Whether it’s a ruse or a psychological issue the victim game is never not hilarious🤣
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Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #6)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:24 PM
Fred Sanford (13,224 posts)
11. Fred has no sympathy for those who troll, then cry about hides.*
Response to Fred Sanford (Reply #11)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:29 PM
Magyar Heidinn (6,736 posts)
13. Sympathy whores!
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Response to Fred Sanford (Reply #11)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:42 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
24. Eight-and-a- half hours straight.
And all nudge-nudge, wink-wink and cutesy- poo about it.
I'm just worried they'll do this to the wrong person sometime, someone fragile or with depression or nervous etc. condition. This kind of behaviour leads to tragedy. AND YEAH, I KNOW THE BUTCHIES OF THE WORLD WILL ALL SAY, "blow me, fruity snowcake", BUT THERE ARE RULES OF DECORUM FOR A REASON. |
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #24)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:48 PM
Magyar Heidinn (6,736 posts)
27. Was that a fart I heard?
👂🏻
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Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #24)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:29 PM
Aldar (11,911 posts)
32. You sir are nothing more than a big baby
cry me a river..........
someone call the whaaambulance ![]() |
Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #6)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:44 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
25. Do not. This started TEN MINUTES AFTER I JOINED!!!!!
Fighting back "lends myself" to JACK SHIT!
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Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #25)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:50 PM
Magyar Heidinn (6,736 posts)
29. Ten minutes, you dove right in!
Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #29)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 03:47 PM
It Guy (6,779 posts)
35. Yeah he did. In liberaldom claiming victim status and using "rights" afforded to victims and
jumping up on the soap box whining about it is how these people rise to stardom amongst their peers.
It usually turns into one big cry fest and then the cry bullies are turned loose to retaliate. |
Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #29)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:24 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
37. Ten minutes, offender #1 called me out and accused me of not being me. Unprovoked assault.
All downhill from there. Have had a few worthwhile chats here with long-suffering worthwhile people despite the assclowns. Why do a few always stop us from having nice things?
They openly laugh at Mr. Skinner, at the same time as they steal his site all for themselves, and cheat the rest of us. |
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #37)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:53 PM
Magyar Heidinn (6,736 posts)
40. True to course.
Poor me poor me❄️ It’s not a few and your nice things are regarded as shit by those that matter. My suggestion is you wipe the sand out of that bleeding gash, slam a rag in it and discard the Unicorn and Rainbows for reality.
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Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #40)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:05 PM
Horsefeathers (15,688 posts)
42. Oh my !
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #37)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:29 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
49. What's *wrong* with these people? Did they have their humanity surgically removed?
These people in general. This is Lord of the Flies. For real.
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Response to liberalguy (Original post)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:30 PM
Aldar (11,911 posts)
14. Kinda like you sent me a PM instead of posting this thread?
kinda like that?
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Response to liberalguy (Original post)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 01:36 PM
MountainDew (9,015 posts)
22. I'm laughing at your feebleness!!
You just did what you're crying/whining about. Will you next threaten to get your antifa and pink pussy hat pals together and beat him up from the safety of your basement chair. You promote violence against those with different views and then whine like a spoiled Brat -- you're laughably cute punkin.
Cowardice, Cowardice everywhere -- amirite LiberalToughGuy? |
Response to MountainDew (Reply #22)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:18 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
36. Those are not my pals. My best pals on this site are the Freds.
I stand for simple human decency and decorum, virtues which have sadly been lost in this digital world. I fight for the rights of the Users.
I'm probably more libertarian than anyone on this site, with the possible exception of my well-esteemed acquaintance TM99. She has explained to you the libertarian roots of Liberal philosophy far better than I ever could, and I quite literally wrote the book (How to Talk to a Conservative, Liberal Party of Canada, March 1986). It's a shame that an arrogant entitled few spoil this place for the rest of you. I have nothing invested here. I don' t care if I post here or not, one way or the other. I'm worried about the vulnerable. The rules don't exist for you and me. The rules exist for them. Over the past three years, we have lost several vulnerable teenagers in Canada. In Canada, what goes on here would be against the law. The Bible says whatsoever you may do to the least of my brethren you do to Me. These are the words of the Lord. |
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #36)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:02 PM
MountainDew (9,015 posts)
41. Seriously dude
do you think I was responding to you? What the fuck does your reply have to do with what I wrote?
Hint punkin: not every post in a thread is directed at you -- that seems to be something you haven't quite figured out yet. Good God, gather your thoughts, follow the thread and knock off posting random words, letters and phrases. You make G4A seem somewhat coherent. Are you and Liberal(not so tough)Guy the same person? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to MountainDew (Reply #41)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:21 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
44. I was talking to everyone, not you.
Liberalguy and I do not see eye to eye on American politics, as a matter of fact. He was on DU for over 14 years. Since he is American and I am not, I stay out of it. I was only going to get involved last year because my cousin in Buffalo is 84 years old now, and I wanted to do something nice for Joe. I joined two Democratic sites to test the waters, Democratic Underground and Jack Pine Radicals. I knew nothing of the ins and outs, the tricks of the trade of social media.
Boy did I get an education. Got my ass handed to me, as a matter of fact. I licked my wounds (actually, gave you no further thought) for over fourteen months until now. Well, it would be quite a trick to write a book about social media without actually doing it (although it doesn't seem to have stopped others who seem to know even less than I). |
Response to Will Morningstar (Reply #44)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 05:47 PM
MountainDew (9,015 posts)
46. If you're writing a book
then it would behoove you to understand how your subject works. You responded to me -- not everyone. If you want to respond to everyone then you'd get more audience if you responded to the OP -- amirite?
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Response to MountainDew (Reply #46)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:32 PM
Will Morningstar (9,197 posts)
50. I'm here to learn.