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Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:26 AM

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks The Atlantic

Don Jr. was colluding and coordinating directly with Russia during the election https://thevotingnews.com/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks-the-atlantic/

Just before the stroke of midnight on September 20, 2016, at the height of last year’s presidential election, the WikiLeaks Twitter account sent a private direct message to Donald Trump Jr., the Republican nominee’s oldest son and campaign surrogate. “A PAC run anti-Trump site putintrump.org is about to launch,” WikiLeaks wrote. “The PAC is a recycled pro-Iraq war PAC. We have guessed the password. It is ‘putintrump.’ See ‘About’ for who is behind it. Any comments?” (The site, which has since become a joint project with Mother Jones, was founded by Rob Glaser, a tech entrepreneur, and was funded by Progress for USA Political Action Committee.) The next morning, about 12 hours later, Trump Jr. responded to WikiLeaks. “Off the record I don’t know who that is, but I’ll ask around,” he wrote on September 21, 2016. “Thanks.”

The messages, obtained by The Atlantic, were also turned over by Trump Jr.’s lawyers to congressional investigators. They are part of a long—and largely one-sided—correspondence between WikiLeaks and the president’s son that continued until at least July 2017. The messages show WikiLeaks, a radical transparency organization that the American intelligence community believeswas chosen by the Russian government to disseminate the information it had hacked, actively soliciting Trump Jr.’s cooperation. WikiLeaks made a series of increasingly bold requests, including asking for Trump’s tax returns, urging the Trump campaign on Election Day to reject the results of the election as rigged, and requesting that the president-elect tell Australia to appoint Julian Assange ambassador to the United States.
“Over the last several months, we have worked cooperatively with each of the committees and have voluntarily turned over thousands of documents in response to their requests,” said Alan Futerfas, an attorney for Donald Trump Jr. “Putting aside the question as to why or by whom such documents, provided to Congress under promises of confidentiality, have been selectively leaked, we can say with confidence that we have no concerns about these documents and any questions raised about them have been easily answered in the appropriate forum.” WikiLeaks did not respond to requests for comment.

The messages were turned over to Congress as part of that body’s various ongoing investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign. American intelligence services have accused the Kremlin of engaging in a deliberate effort to boost President Donald Trump’s chances while bringing down his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. That effort—and the president’s response to it—has spawned multiple congressional investigations, and a special counsel inquiry that has led t

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Letmypeoplevote Tuesday OP
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uncledad Tuesday #2
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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:31 AM

1. And?????

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Response to BigKahunna2.0 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:33 AM

2. Good question.

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Response to uncledad (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:40 AM

7. Just another copy and paste job showing no illegallity

His hate must keep him up at night and be eating him alive

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Response to BigKahunna2.0 (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:10 AM

11. I read the same article yesterday

and had the same reaction...and??

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Response to uncledad (Reply #11)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:13 AM

12. The idea is not to provide actual information but rather to keep the news cycle filled with stories

with misleading headlines so as to imply some misdeed or some act that was uncovered.

It is a campaign.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:35 AM

3. LOL, thanks..............I love The Onion's stories................

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:36 AM

4. What exactly is the problem?

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:37 AM

5. More evidence of selective leaks by Dem members. Worse, leaks by Mueller or staff.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:37 AM

6. How are those indictments against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney proceeding

Goth?

Thanks for all the laughs.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:49 AM

8. This makes me smile- the BITCH Hillary still is not president

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:53 AM

9. ****** FAKE NEWS ALERT FROM THE DELUSIONAL IN THE 57 STATES*****

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:54 AM

10. LMPV what is so secretive about the emails?

I could be wrong, but didn't he release all of those, and if so they wouldn't be so secretive now would they.

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Response to bruiserboy (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:25 AM

13. Absolutely nothing.

Zero, zilch, nada! LMPV is just peddling narrative horseshit as usual.

So what if Assange contacted Trump Jr. It isn't illegal. So what if Wikileaks asked for shit. Well, hell, Wall Street was asking for a lot from Her. Do you think she revealed every private meeting with a big money donor who 'asked for shit'?

Fuck no.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:28 AM

15. TM i agree, but i want the legal

Scholar to answer a simple question and it seems he can't.

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Response to bruiserboy (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:33 AM

16. The 'legal scholar' is a steno in Texas

who has been wrong on literally every prediction ever made by them on this site.

When proven wrong, Gothy runs back to DU for the safe space it provides.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:35 AM

18. LMAO

My neighbor who is a law professor at Cornell wanted to have a discussion with LMPV but he never responded to the request.

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Response to bruiserboy (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:04 AM

20. The couple of legal classes I had in an MBA

and my doctorate in psychology make me more knowledgeable than Gothy on most of these matters. And that is fucking pathetic!

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Response to TM999 (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:37 PM

25. Your own evident lack of any qualifications and ability to do anything

drives you to wander this website pretending to think that users whose professional qualifications and ability are obvious to both you and your fanboys, and obviously far superior to all of you, are not who they obviously are.

Quite a sad display of the old inferiority complex. Failed narcissists are to be watched out for and avoided.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:43 PM

28. Hey Ivy darling.

I never claimed to be a lawyer or trained extensively in the law.

Would you care to show a running tally of the posts where LMPV has been right on the law? We will wait.

The only narcissist here darling is you as evidence from your constant need to introject yourself into discussions that you are ill-equipped to deal with. Disbarred Canadian lawyers are really not one to talk.

By the way, do you see rapists everywhere now?

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Response to TM999 (Reply #28)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:44 PM

29. Oooooh, more straw!

And of course more lies.

You're very easy.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:47 PM

31. Straw?

You came to the defense of the Texas stenographer and questioned our 'legal credentials', so put up or shut up.

No darling, I am always hard to get. But didn't you post a while back that you were easy?

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:55 PM

34. It was a simple question.

Why did you not answer it?

Are you a licensed attorney now?

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Response to Carl (Reply #34)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:56 PM

35. Did you just pick your nose?

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:02 PM

38. No.

See how easy a yes or no question is.

Are you a licensed attorney that is qualified to speak on legal matters?

It is a yes or no question.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #35)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:16 PM

46. Where did you go?

It is a simple yes or no question.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:53 PM

33. Do you have a license to practice law?

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #25)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:37 PM

60. Ell oh effen ell.

"Failed narcissists are to be watched out for and avoided. "


Especially ones from canada who feed feral cats, and use words like 'festooned' and 'covivant' when they aren't hiding in sock persona.


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Response to Nostrings (Reply #60)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:41 PM

61. Festooned with covivant!

Especially for you.


Btw,

https://everything2.com/title/Covivant

For your further edification. Now you can use it in a sentence.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:27 AM

14. What more evidence of collusion do you need?

Russia and the trump campaign colluded https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/11/14/what-more-evidence-of-collusion-do-you-need/?utm_term=.e3516813ef52

We know President Trump during the campaign publicly encouraged the Russians to hack and release Hillary Clinton’s emails. We know he referenced the WikiLeaks email dump 145 times in the closing days of the campaign. We also know that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort met with Russians in June 2016 with the promise of “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, and we have learned that campaign adviser George Papadopoulos had extensive contacts with Russian officials that included discussion of “dirt” on Clinton. To say that there is no evidence of collusion, then, would be one more big lie in a series of big lies the administration has deployed to defend itself in the Russia investigation that threatens to sink this presidency.

But in case all of that were not enough to constitute “collusion” (which is not a legal term), The Post reports:

Trump’s eldest son exchanged private messages with WikiLeaks during the presidential campaign at the same time the website was publishing hacked emails from Democratic officials, according to correspondence made public Monday. Donald Trump Jr. did not respond to many of the notes, which were sent using the direct message feature on Twitter. But he alerted senior advisers on his father’s campaign, including his brother-in-law, Jared Kushner, according to two people familiar with the exchanges.

In the messages, WikiLeaks urged Trump Jr. to promote its trove of hacked Democratic emails and suggested that President Trump challenge the election results if he did not win, among other ideas. They were first reported by the Atlantic and later posted by Trump Jr. on Twitter.

So is this the proverbial smoking gun? “I wouldn’t say it’s the smoking gun on its own,” says Susan Hennessey of the Lawfare blog. However, she says that “in the broader context it’s yet another strand in rope. Every single time these guys are offered dirty materials or illicit contacts their response is to say yes and push further.” She argues that it is “hard not to think that someone, somewhere crossed the line into criminality.”

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:35 AM

17. Yo, Gothy.

Didn't they teach you the difference between collusion and conspiracy in your paralegal school?

Collusion, while possibly on unethical or even unsavory, is NOT illegal.

Conspiracy, however, is. Oh wait, kind of like the conspiracy to box Sanders out of the DNC primary race or sell Uranium One to Russian backed agents in exchange for cash?

Do you ever tire of being fucking wrong?

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Response to TM999 (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 11:08 AM

21. It did here when it ran away from its claim

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #21)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:00 PM

22. OK, now that was priceless.

So Gothy the corporate paralegal has pretended to know criminal and Constitutional law now here for six fucking years at least? He was wrong in 2014 and in 2011?!

What a loser!

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Response to TM999 (Reply #22)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:30 PM

24. A snowflake felt attacked by reality, retaliated in bad faith.

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Response to Magyar Heidinn (Reply #24)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:41 PM

26. Probably Gothy.

Gothy is the sensitive type.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:38 AM

19. What is illegal with any of the allegations that are being implied?

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 01:07 PM

23. More than your lies and propaganda.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:42 PM

27. Hey boys!

Anybody notice that no allegation of ILLEGAL CONSPIRACY was made anywhere in the article or the thread?




Some people actually give a shit about democracy, ethics, and stuff like that. It's already obvious that none of you do. Your work here is done!

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 04:45 PM

30. You care about democracy, ethics, and stuff like that?

Don't make me fucking laugh!!!

So Clinton getting paid outrageous amounts for quid pro quo speeches on Wall Street is ethical?

So Clinton colluded with the DNC to rig the primary against Sanders is pro democracy now?

Would supporting an asshole ex president who is a rapist and sexual predator count as 'stuff like that'?

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Response to TM999 (Reply #30)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 05:13 PM

32. If you had to stop spewing falsehoods for a day,

would you die from all the backed up crap?

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:04 PM

39. Some delicate flower

sent a bad faith alert on this.

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Response to Grateful Bread (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:05 PM

42. Lol,I was on a jury for yours this morning.

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Response to Carl (Reply #42)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:06 PM

43. What did I say that got alerted on?

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Response to Grateful Bread (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:13 PM

45. https://www.discussionist.com/10151532243

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Response to Carl (Reply #45)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:22 PM

47. Nope!

Not my alert. I don't alert. As a rule, I think the whole jury system should be scrapped. Say what you're going to say, whatever it is.

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Response to Grateful Bread (Reply #47)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:29 PM

49. Sure sport!

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Response to Carl (Reply #49)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:45 PM

51. I'd no more lie to you

than I would lie to an insect crawling on the ground! And for the exact same reason!

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Response to Grateful Bread (Reply #51)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:48 PM

52. Aw,mad again??

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Response to Carl (Reply #52)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:09 PM

53. Why friend,

I would no more be mad at you than I would be at an insect crawling on the ground! And for the exact same reason!

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Response to Grateful Bread (Reply #53)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:12 PM

54. LOLing at my friend.

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Response to Grateful Bread (Reply #39)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:15 PM

56. I should have taken bets.

But then, nobody would have bet against an alert.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 01:02 AM

65. So can't and won't answer yet again.

Typical of you isn't it socky Ivy.

LMPV pushes the collusion narrative in hopes of impeachment. Now I know you are a Canadian and don't understand our Constitution but a president can't be impeached for 'not caring about democracy, ethics, and stuff like that'. The president can only be impeached for 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and collusion is not conspiracy.

But you know that right? You are a legal professional, right?

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Response to TM999 (Reply #65)

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 10:01 AM

68. Shall I send the honeywagon around?

C'mon, yes or no.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #68)

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 10:09 AM

70. Are you already drinking this early in the morning?

WTF?

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:00 PM

36. From post 14 by the OP.

” She argues that it is “hard not to think that someone, somewhere crossed the line into criminality.”

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Response to Carl (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:02 PM

37. Come back when you got something!

Or every five minutes whether or not you have anything worth saying, like your great leader here.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #37)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:04 PM

40. Aw,sort of sucks when a person proves you wrong I guess.

Was it a lie or just a misspeak?

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Response to Carl (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:25 PM

48. Did you lie or did you misspeak? you ask. How would I know?

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #48)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:32 PM

50. Dodge and weave.

Come back when you are ready for prime time.

How are you doing with figuring out if you have an attorneys license.
I know that is a tough yes or no question.

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Response to Carl (Reply #50)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:13 PM

55. Given that I have never claimed to have "an attorneys license",

I'm waiting for your answer about that nose-picking you engage in.

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #55)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:16 PM

57. I said no.

Are you unable to read English?

So by what authority do you presume to lecture as a legal professional?

Were you once a member of the bar or whatever it is called in Canada?

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Response to Carl (Reply #57)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:18 PM

58. If you feel a need to embark on a fishing expedition,

there's probably something in that apparently rather large nose you could go after!

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Response to MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (Reply #58)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 07:30 PM

59. So you are saying that you lied above when you claimed to know the professional qualifications of

a lawyer?


" MsJaneFuzzyWuzzy (2,193 posts)
25. Your own evident lack of any qualifications and ability to do anything

drives you to wander this website pretending to think that users whose professional qualifications and ability are obvious to both you and your fanboys, and obviously far superior to all of you, are not who they obviously are.





Why did you do that?

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Wed Nov 15, 2017, 10:16 AM

71. Aw,kind of touchy about being proven to be a liar I see.

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:05 PM

41. Nobody cares, nor should they. n/t

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 06:06 PM

44. And now onto the establishment Dems with their propaganda machine to fluff up no story.

OMG, WL's sent an email to junior. The biggest story in the history of mankind has just broken!

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 09:49 PM

62. The author admits selectively editing/omitting this hit piece here:

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/the-atlantic-commits-malpractice-selectively-edits-to-smear-wikileaks-65ecd7c2468f

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Response to KittyCatIdiots (Reply #62)

Tue Nov 14, 2017, 10:21 PM

63. I'm sure I'll never hear from LMPV about their proven propaganda being outed

I really do wonder what country that poster is from, like Russia maybe? LOL

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 12:07 AM

64. From DU

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 05:13 AM

67. From a person who's not a brainwashed, propagandizing cult member:

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-we-can-be-certain-that-mueller-wont-prove-trump-russia-collusion-595db7f1401b

"...I’ve noticed a strange uptick in establishment loyalists speaking to me as though Trump-Russia collusion is already an established fact, and that I’m simply not well-informed. There is still the same amount of publicly available evidence for this collusion as there ever was (zero), so this tells me that the only thing which has changed is the narrative. Pundits/propagandists are increasingly speaking as though this is something that has already been established, and the people who consume that propaganda go out and circulate it as though it’s an established fact. When you’re not plugged into that echo chamber, though, it looks very weird.

This is why Russiagaters find my certainty that collusion will never be proven so intensely abrasive. Their entire worldview consists of pure narrative — literally nothing other than authoritative assertions from pundits who speak in a confident tone of voice — so when they encounter someone doing the same thing but with hard facts, it causes psychological discomfort. This discomfort is called cognitive dissonance. It’s what being wrong feels like."

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Response to Letmypeoplevote (Original post)

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 03:48 AM

66. That sure was fucking stupid.

My friends name is Ivan so I must be a Kremlin secret agent sent here as a child to infiltrate the brewery industry.

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