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Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:32 AM

300-10b Donald trump and family will gain 1 BILLION dollars under the Republican TrumpNOTAX bill

So it would figure the ones who are happy about this are gadbillionaires.

or those voting against their interests.

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Reply 300-10b Donald trump and family will gain 1 BILLION dollars under the Republican TrumpNOTAX bill (Original post)
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 OP
imwithfred Nov 2017 #1
DDKick Nov 2017 #2
I814U2CY Nov 2017 #3
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #7
Nostrings Nov 2017 #28
Horsefeathers Nov 2017 #4
Cave Dweller Nov 2017 #5
myohmy Nov 2017 #6
Shkreli Nov 2017 #8
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #9
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #10
Cave Dweller Nov 2017 #11
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #12
Carl Nov 2017 #14
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #13
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #15
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #16
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #18
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #19
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #20
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #24
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #31
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #34
Nostrings Nov 2017 #30
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #21
MumblyPeg Nov 2017 #26
Banshee 3 Actual Nov 2017 #22
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #23
Nostrings Nov 2017 #29
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #32
Nostrings Nov 2017 #36
rahtruelies Nov 2017 #17
wisbadger Nov 2017 #25
DavesNotHere Nov 2017 #27
graham4anything4HC45 Nov 2017 #33
kevlar Nov 2017 #35
Nostrings Nov 2017 #37
DavesNotHere Nov 2017 #39
bfox74 Nov 2017 #38
Nostrings Nov 2017 #40
Deplorable Nov 2017 #41

Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:34 AM

1. All hail the great and glorious avuncular Donald Trump

whom God hath given to preside over us.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:37 AM

2. Too bad Hillary ran isn't it?

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:37 AM

3. And you get a billion dollars! And you get a billion dollars! YOU ALL GET A BILLION DOLLARS!

 

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Response to I814U2CY (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:55 AM

7. Oprah is on my ever shrinking list of what was 44 now in the upper 20s

with a few new additions and a few others I am thinking about.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 05:39 PM

28. I guess you'll be removing blumenthal from that list too.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:49 AM

4. Excellent news!

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:54 AM

5. Explain how any tax payer that

has to pay less in taxes has a gain. Does that mean if a Massachusetts resident that goes to NH to purchase christmas gifts has a gain because they avoided sales taxes? Or does it mean that the money if liquid and will flow to the lowest (cheapest) point.

Trump and another multi-millionire is not gaining anything. The government is confiscating less. As a taxpayer, I would love to see everyone making 10K or more a year have a tax bill. If you can vote for people that spend money and tax people to get that money, you should be a tax payer.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 08:55 AM

6. how dumb...

...must one be to believe a Republican...

SFGATE:

" President Donald Trump called from South Korea on Tuesday to share with Democrats what his accountant told him about the GOP tax measure, namely that he is "going to get killed in this bill." "

" My accountant called me and said 'you're going to get killed in this bill.' The deal is so bad for rich people, I had to throw in the estate tax just to give them something." "

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Trump-My-accountant-says-GOP-tax-bill-is-going-12342125.php
.........................

...about this dumb...wave to the folks, Willie...

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:19 AM

8. You mean the government won't be allowed to steal a billion unearned dollars from Trump?

 

Taxation is theft.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:32 AM

9. we aren't dimocrats. we don't "vote for our own best interests". We vote for whats RIGHT

and against what is WRONG.
And this is great. That's another 1 Billion dollars in private hands that fascists aren't STEALING from a private business.
I don't know if the thought ever crossed your mind, but wealth doesn't belong to government so they can call it "gains" they "give". Doesn't work like that, lefty. ALL wealth belongs to private citizens. All money that flows through government has been STOLEN from them by force.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:53 AM

10. the red states won't have a fire department or be able to hire cops

same as the blue states under this bill

though the abject failure trump is, the bill might not pass if a few patriots stop it.

Putin is smiling. He too is a mega-rich person who also doesn't want anyone to have any rights besides him

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:56 AM

11. You are lying. Since when does the federal

government pay for a fire department? My property taxes pay for that,along with the town police department and the county Sheriff.

Uncle may give the departments grant money, but there is no direct funding from congress for the 3 fire engines and 1 rescue vehicle in my town.

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Response to Cave Dweller (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:00 AM

12. Simple. Without any money, the state and local areas have NO money to hire

and many people who would take the deduction, would lose the deduction and won't pay those
thingys

after all, how does one think the state/local governments get any money?

Guess the parking meters will go up to $50 a half hour in all states nationwide
and the cops in those small speed traps will have to give tens of thousands more tickets each year
and have the price of tickets go up

at which point, of course, the taxpayer who makes under $100,000 will be hit with a total outlay
20x the amount they were paying

nickel and dimes don't grow on trees.

and it's been proven that trickle down hasn't ever worked in any society at any time ever.
(and the last time it was tried and failed, under Reagan, the rates were 2x as high)

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:07 AM

14. Does the staff check on the meds?

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:02 AM

13. don't give me that baloney. you guys always pull that... stuff that

is locally controlled and amount to about .001% of the federal budget. So let's play in the world of reality, shall we?
And i find it quite telling that you don't address the fundamental issue of government confiscation of private property at the end of a gun barrel. That's a pretty violent and fascist thing for someone to support.. especially when they claim to be the exact opposite. Right now I'm chucking out thousands of dollars annually in local taxes to pay for that stuff already. Hell, I have to pay about 10 grand in rent to local government right now in order to live on property that I own and bought outright. I support local infrastructure, but I don't support bloated federal leftist overspending and wealth redistribution.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:09 AM

15. The Ron Paul method does not work. The Ayn Rand survival of the fittest don't work

and the Paul family must not even believe it as Rand has been whining recently, a big no-no for a true
Ayn Rand person.

BTW- I am 100% against the Bundy's who attempted to confiscate property not theirs.

without any money, snow doesn't get shoveled (if one person shovels, that person still has to have all the other places one will travel to shoveled, garbage don't get picked up (at which point disease sets in and everyone dies.

those things aren't free.

trump should just admit it- he is robbing those who make under $100,000 to pay for himself.
Why should he not admit it? Why should Ryan not admit it? Why should Mitch not admit it.
It is stealing from the poor to pay for the rich. They should be proud of what they are doing

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:13 AM

16. so, you wanna go there? you think gov OWNED that property? And they SHOULD own it?

We call that communism in the real world. And you have the story wrong, as usual. No one attempted to confiscate property either. See, you guys always jump the shark, every damned time.
And explain to us how shrinking the gap in tax burden is "robbing". the numbers do not lie. The top 20% pretty much pay all the taxes the flow through federal pathways. You actually think that is somehow fair? I'm thinking that you need to get your dictionary out

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:19 AM

18. without a deduction, many people are then charged 33% higher fpr state and local

as the deduction takes off 1/3.
(and that is not counting all the other deductions gone.
Especially taking away exemptions per person.
So every person over 1 single person, will pay more and more and more and more




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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:25 AM

19. why should anyone even GET an exemption?

At least you are admitting that taxes are theft. The breakdown here is that you and all fascists are categorizing people based on wealth and applying rules that only YOU feel are appropriate. now THAT is what I define as being driven by greed. It's pretty despicable to assume you are entitled to even one single penny of someone elses wealth. See, that is why those rules were made in the first place... and it's completely unconstitutional. Every single person in this country should pay the exact same tax rate percentage. Only then will people like you start thinking twice about all the cool spending programs that you love so much. Right now it's easy because the people who support that shit basically aren't paying for it. It's like voting to get a check for yourself that is drawn from someone elses account. We call that theft here in reality land.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:32 AM

20. every person does pay the same, starting with level 1

because those that pay Level One all pay that same amount
those that go over level one all pay that same amount up to level three
those in level 3 pay the same until level 4
those in level 4 all pay the same until level 5
so everyone pays the same no matter who they are

of course, what happens in, others don't think about what happens if they don't pay the water bill
and then the house goes on fire in a district that didn't pay and then the entire district burns down
and voila, there no longer is a district.

meanwhile, states are passe as everyone moves around now.
If that wasn't so, why does trump and the Republicans want to cross state lines? Obviously to
Republicans states are meaningless if one applies that.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:54 AM

24. "every person does pay the same"

That's among the most ludicrous statements you've ever made.
Graham, when you have to be a mental gymnast to support your ideals, it's to to re-evaluate those ideals.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 06:55 AM

31. no one pays more in each level, 100percent the same for every single taxpayer

so the rich are not getting any benefit if they are on level 7, because the poor on level 7 pay the same amount
and the rich on level 1 pay the same as the poor on level 1

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 09:52 AM

34. so as usual, you are classifying people into groups,

and punishing the ones NOT you.
You know what the most disturbing part is?
The most disturbing part is that I think you actually BELIEVE that bullshit you just typed out... twice.

There were 7 different levels of people and they were treated according to the level they were in. It was TOTALLY fair since no matter what level you were in, everyone in that level was treated the same.
If you were in one certain level, you could be bought and sold on an auction block and forced to work by another level of people. But it's ok, it was totally fair. The rules and laws for everyone in each level were completely even, so it was fair... TOTALLY fair.

Now, can you see how damned stupid that sounds? That's exactly what your tax argument sounds like except it's based on income instead of race... yea, it really is that discriminatory and if I might add... fascist.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 05:46 PM

30. There should only be one level.

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:35 AM

21. If everyone should pay the same, why do Republicans want a 20% corporate rate

but a higher person rate?

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:55 AM

26. well, because without votes from at least a few of the communist dimocrats, this

doesn't pass. And unless they dig for money to pay for all those wealth redistribution scams, no communist dimocrat will vote for it.
That is why, graham.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:37 AM

22. The Money sucking areas of those states are run by Dems and are dem ghettos

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:40 AM

23. Kids are flocking to the big cities in all 50 states. The city is where it's happening

the interstate drive over areas have those motels with 13 rooms and 13 vacancies.

or as Hal Ketchum wrote/sang "the world must be flat, because people leave town and they don't ever come back"

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 05:43 PM

29. "It" being most of the crime, most of the violence, and most of the democrat control.

If thats "Happening" I'll take flyover America any day.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 07:01 AM

32. there is more violence against women per person in Montana and Wyoming than in a big state

in fact, I would bet the correlation between the big states and the 3EV and 4EV states shows all the small
states to have a higher crime rate person to person (that means the % of the total number of people.

Rape, abuse, gun happenings, murders, drunk driving, Animal House Frat abuse against women, hazing,
from one crime to the next.
(that means the % based on total number of people in said state vs. number of incidents.
Illinois is no more violent than a 3EV state.

it's reading the stats and correlating the stats.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 11:04 AM

36. You are hiding behind rates.

Forget rates, raw numbers are a true and actual measurement.

And forget 'states'. The issues we are talking about aren't statewide problems, they're more localized as you well know.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:16 AM

17. ****** SEDITIOUS FAKE NEWS ALERT FROM THE DELUSIONAL IN THE 57 STATES*****

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 10:55 AM

25. ! will gain trillions! I can't wait!

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Fri Nov 17, 2017, 05:07 PM

27. Didn't you spend most of last year trying to convince everyone that Trump WASN'T a billionaire? n/t

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Response to DavesNotHere (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 07:04 AM

33. I and almost all NYCers tried to tell the world trump was illegit unfit and an abject bigly failure

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 10:36 AM

35. The problem there is

you have no credibility to tell anyone anything.

You excel at wrong.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 11:06 AM

37. Hillary clinton says that your failure to accept election results is a 'threat to our democracy'.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:25 PM

39. If you are right, that means your candidate spent twice as much money and still couldn't beat an

"abject bigly failure", which should truly redefine the term "abject bigly failure". Did you read her book yet where she explained how everyone else failed her? I can't even imagine what 4 years of that would have been like.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 11:08 AM

38. Great! Good for him!

That also means that everyone else will gain money, money that O-bitch-a took away from us with that retarded "affordable care" ruse. Why do find unhappiness in others' prosperity? Do you really think (I should just stop there) that every dollar a EVIL RICH PERSON makes is somehow taken from an un-rich person? Are you one of those?

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 12:47 PM

40. Yes, he IS one of those, a genuine true believer.

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Response to graham4anything4HC45 (Original post)

Sat Nov 18, 2017, 01:19 PM

41. I pictured dr evil when I read your post.

One bbilllliiiooooonnn dollars

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