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Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:20 PM

Hillarybots run their bus back and forth over Jill Stein, back and forth...

... and in 2020 they'll demand that she and her followers support whatever the DUmbots scrape up for a presidential candidate...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210014423

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:32 PM

1. Fucking idiots they are. Too stupid to know that anyone from any party can run for office.

No one owes any fucking Democrat their vote. People can vote for whatever party they feel best suits their values. The Dim schtick Vote for me I don't suck as bad as the other guy doesn't work anymore they should realize that but the fuckers wont. 2018 and 20 are going to be delightful.

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:34 PM

2. They did it to Sanders supporters as well.

The only difference is that Stein has the balls to push back while Sanders just kisses the Clinton ring. He and Warren will sheep-dog the progressives back in line to vote blue team DNC in 2020 for sure!

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Response to TM999 (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 07:29 PM

6. Oh please!

You know, I respect you as a conservative here who can actually argue rationally. But Stein is trash! A doctor who gives in to crazed anti-vaccine lefties, while Bernie (who I did not support last year) had the guts to condemn such nonsense!

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:47 AM

7. I never said I admired or liked Stein but

she is standing up to the accusations of the Russian collusion bullshit and fought back against the Hillbots.

Sanders kissed Clinton's ring and has been on board with the Russian's did it from day one.

That is what I mean by Stein having more balls than Sanders. He capitulated without a fight.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 09:47 AM

10. I do think that Democrats may be riding the Russian collusion thing a bit much

I believe that the Trumpies were at the very least inexcusably reckless in dealing with the Russians, and am interested in what Mueller is going to turn up. But proving actual collusion seems to require a fairly high bar, I'm not sure by what legal theory one might plausibly accuse Trump and company of a crime. (He's definitely hiding something, but it could just be something embarrassing, and because he's such an asshole.) Mueller is probably not done discovering crimes though.

As far as Sanders goes, as a moderate Democrat myself I thought he was just sensibly and honorably playing the whole coalition politics thing, and I think he deserves respect for that.

Stein is just a cardboard cutout from the whole "America is always to blame, and America's adversaries never are," section of the Left. I have no respect for her at all.

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 04:11 PM

11. The Democrats have used a false narrative to drive

political support from a propagandized country that Trump should be impeached. Sane Democrats should recognize that this is a very bad precedent to set. It can and will be used again them, and it ensures a further attack on this Republic by means of removing a duly elected president by a media blitz delegitimization campaign instead of better policies winning in elections.

Sanders once had my respect but he lied. He did not fight to the convention. He did not support his own delegates and the folks who worked so hard for him. He abandoned them. He ran on populist appeal and his record of honesty. He traded that in like so many have done around the Clintons. He traded in the politics of pressure for the politics of access. He now has a symbolic token leadership position basically acting as a sheep-dog for the recalcitrant left.

Sensible? Perhaps. Honorable? Definitely not.

I don't disagree about Stein but I do still appreciate her standing up to the Russian bullshit. Sanders has embraced it.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 24, 2017, 10:11 AM

12. Not a false narrative

Exaggerated? At least a fair chance. Is it premature to speak seriously of impeachment? Definitely.

Let's follow the rule of law and see where these investigations lead. They may lead to a big nothing, a shocking outrage, or somewhere in-between. Anything else would clearly be a an attack on the Republic, or at least an erosion of it.

We're going to have to disagree on Sanders. What I see is a progressive who doesn't take the self indulgent view that "idealistic" politics is a matter of showy virtue signaling.

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 24, 2017, 11:00 AM

13. McCarthyism, LOL!

 

"An attack on the Republic"!!!

LMFAO!

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Response to KittyCatIdiots (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 24, 2017, 11:07 AM

14. The Republic is founded on the rule of law

So if one attacks or erodes the rule of law, then one indeed attacks or erodes the Republic.

Or do you believe in something different?

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Response to Arne Oker (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 24, 2017, 03:41 PM

15. Both a false narrative and an unnecessary attack on the Republic.

We have ample examples of other presidents including Clinton and Obama 'colluded' with foreign countries during our elections and their's. What would be a legal issue is if it was a criminal conspiracy. Nothing in two years has shown that it is or will be. There is no there there and won't be no matter how long the left waits.

Well Sanders did virtue signal. He lied about being honest and following through on committed support. I have grown to despise those types of politicians on the left.

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:49 PM

3. It seems that the Clinton Machine inspired allegations of Trump/Putin collusion ...

are going nowhere.

Hillary still needs an excuse to get the big donors to fork over an enormous amount of cash so she can try once again in 2020. Therefore blame Hillary's loss on Jill Stein/Putin collusion as well as Trump/Putin collusion.

It's no longer a Vast Right WingConspiracy but now a Vast Russian Conspiracy.

It's my opinion that the Russians hacked Hillary's unauthorized and improperly secured dark servers and Putin has read all her email. If so Putin was hoping Hillary would win as he would have blackmailed her with the threat of dumping all her email through WikiLeaks. Putin would have rolled over Hillary like a steam rollover.

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:52 PM

4. Wonder how many of them bragged about contributing $$$ to her recount effort?

I seem to recall a lot of them in bragging threads last year over at the DUmp, about how much they had contributed to the Jill Stein recount effort to stop Trump.

Sure they lie about that stuff all the time, but some of them claimed to have given her over $1,000 for the recount. (Even though the deadline to ask for a recount had already passed in 2 of the 3 states.)

But that was then, this is now. No hypocrisy there for sure. Lol!

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Fri Dec 22, 2017, 03:59 PM

5. There are too many people and institutions under Hillary's bus for it to be able to move.

Comey, who made up legal principles to exonerate Hillary TWICE and didn't even bother to make up a reason for not recommending prosecution of Abedin and Weiner;

Sanders, even though he endorsed Hillary, for having had the nerve to exercise his Constitutional right to run for POTUS;

Sanders' supporters, for having had the nerve to exercise their right to vote for the Presidential candidate of their choice;

Some media, for having had the nerve to report actual news now and again, instead of only publishing the stories that the Hillary camp fed them;

The entire Green Party and every Green candidate for having had the nerve to exist;

Every Trump supporter for allegedly being "deplorable;"


Oh, who am I kidding? I don't have the time and patience to list all the people under Hillary's bus. No one does. Not even Hillary.

Point is, it can't move.

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 04:38 AM

8. Yep

Only this time I’m voting a straight Green Party ticket. I’ll probably never vote democrat again. Bernie had a chance to make the lives of 99% of Americans better and he squandered it. Come to think of it, if Hillary does run, and the polling numbers are close, I’ll vote republican again just to vote against the corporate whore Hillary.

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Response to Gamle-ged (Original post)

Sat Dec 23, 2017, 07:34 AM

9. maybe the green voters will get their own website, like the democrats at jpr.

All the non third way democrats got their own website at jpr. Looks like the greens are next. The big third way circle jerk at the dump cannot be interrupted by rational people or common sense.

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