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Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:33 PM

If there were no NRA would the Florida shootings have occurred?

It can't be asked much plainer than that.
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Reply If there were no NRA would the Florida shootings have occurred? (Original post)
swifty Feb 2018 OP
Gunslinger201 Feb 2018 #1
Carl Feb 2018 #2
Ruby Feb 2018 #3
JaimeBondoJr Feb 2018 #4
quad489 Feb 2018 #5
swifty Feb 2018 #6
kevlar Feb 2018 #7
pavulon-lives Feb 2018 #8
Carl Feb 2018 #14
quad489 Feb 2018 #15
oldenuff35 Feb 2018 #21
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #9
swifty Feb 2018 #11
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #12
swifty Feb 2018 #22
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #25
swifty Feb 2018 #28
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #29
swifty Feb 2018 #30
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #31
swifty Feb 2018 #32
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #33
docgeezer Feb 2018 #23
Horsefeathers Feb 2018 #10
Muddling Through Feb 2018 #13
TheShoe Feb 2018 #16
Banshee 3 Actual Feb 2018 #35
Nostrings Feb 2018 #17
TheShoe Feb 2018 #18
Muddling Through Feb 2018 #19
docgeezer Feb 2018 #20
Charlie Mike Feb 2018 #27
stygmata Feb 2018 #24
Paradigm Feb 2018 #26
Banshee 3 Actual Feb 2018 #34

Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:35 PM

1. NRA is a Gun SAFETY Organization

Don’t Liberals understand that?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:36 PM

2. Yes.

What a stupid thread.

Alert away.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:36 PM

3. Theres no way to know, either way.

It’s moot.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:37 PM

4. I'm sure you have imagined how the NRA made Nikolas Cruz batshit crazy...

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 08:57 PM

5. Why do you believe the NRA caused that POS to go to that ''gun-free zone'' and MURDER those people??

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Response to quad489 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:01 PM

6. They caused the AR-15 and ammo he bought to be available to him.

If there were no NRA, he wouldn't have been able to do what he did.

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Response to swifty (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:03 PM

7. Not even remotely accurate.

Amusingly so.

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Response to swifty (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:03 PM

8. fucking stoner such an asshole

Eugene stoner, if he hadn't invented the ar-15 the world would be all free love and shit.

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Response to swifty (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:20 PM

14. The NRA made the .223 round?

This is close to the most ignorant post you have ever made and that has a lot of choices.

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Response to swifty (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:27 PM

15. Uh, he could've done similar carnage with a couple of Glock 19s loaded w/hollow points. Next excuse?

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Response to swifty (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:57 PM

21. There are prob 30,000,000 AR owners in the USA and 5,000,000 members of the NRA.

How can you lie so easily, you sure do not do it well.

It does not take the NRA to keep AR's legal, it is a market thing. The AR's are the best selling rifles in decades and posts just like this one just cause more of them to be sold.

The AR does not need the NRA to survive. In fact, you can't kill the ownership possession or use of the that platform.

It is way to late for that to happen. That genie is way out of the bottle.

Many firearms besides the AR are chambered in the .223/5.56 NATO round. So are you saying that they will not have made this ammo if the AF did not exist?

You are so gun ignorant and full of liberal BS it is beyond words.

They should put your pic on wiki under gun ignorant....

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:04 PM

9. There is no NRA in Paris.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:06 PM

11. Right, but question is about the NRA and Florida.

I think if there were no NRA, the Florida shootings would not have occurred.

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Response to swifty (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:09 PM

12. If X leads to Y then non-X makes Y unattainable.

If the NRA were the cause rampage killings then the absence of the NRA would mean an absence of rampage killings.

The facts show this to not be the case.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:03 PM

22. It's invalid logic, because you lack qualifiers.

I didn't say the absence of the NRA would prevent all rampages. Only some of them.

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Response to swifty (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

25. You have stated in this thread you blame the NRA for making the weapons and ammunition accessible.

Yet, in the numerous attacks in Paris (and neighboring European countries) demonstrate that weapons and ammunition can be obtained to conduct rampage shootings despite the fact the NRA does not exist while the sorts of gun laws the NRA opposes do exist.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:51 PM

28. I'm asking about this Florida guy...

...and I'll ask about others too if you want. The Las Vegas guy or the Aurora guy.

No NRA would have meant that assault weapons would be banned. It would have been a lot harder for the Florida shooter to get an an assault weapon. He's not going to just plop down a debit card and walk out of the store with one, and that's about all this guy was capable of doing.

Sure, he could have gotten a different weapon (maybe), but if it were a pistol, he would have been underage, but for the NRA. The NRA doesn't think he's underage even now.

The NRA just kept making this crap easier and easier until it now it's too easy.

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Response to swifty (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:53 PM

29. Yet, the absence of the NRA and the presence of gun control laws you seek

did not prevent the Paris nightclub massacres or the assault on the Charlie Hebdo office or the numerous other attacks in the EU.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:54 PM

30. That's a different argument. I take it you are conceding my point.

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Response to swifty (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 11:34 PM

31. That is exactly the argument you are making.

How did the European rampage killers get their weapons and ammunition if there is no 2nd Amendment or NRA?

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 11:38 PM

32. Thanks for the chips.

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Response to swifty (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 11:40 PM

33. You won nothing because you cannot explain how the killers got their weapons.

You lose. Again.

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Response to swifty (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:09 PM

23. I'm sorry, but this is probably the most illogical (a euphamism - I'm very polite!) statement I've

seen in many years.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:06 PM

10. "If... Ifs and nuts were candy & nuts

O.J. would still be in the record books." - Sherrif I.

And Lefty says Trump is the crazy one?

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:16 PM

13. More epic Troll-Fuckery.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:32 PM

16. And yet you voted....

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:13 AM

35. And yet you troll with no value to your posts

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:39 PM

17. Of course it would.

The NRA has been around since before school shootings of today.

The AR has been around since before the school shootings of today.

Strong gun culture has been around since before the school shootings of today.

The big change is in culture, but neither you nor any other modern day lefty want to talk about that, so you blame the nra.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:42 PM

18. His precious Gun would not exist

He would have had to use alternate Guns with a different outcome.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:46 PM

19. A different outcome?

The AR-15 would not exist?

How so?

Please specify?

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 09:47 PM

20. Uh, none of the students were wearing body armor, so even a 9 mm handgun would have been

capable of these killings. There are some that have 19 round magazines. In any event, the NRA did not commission ArmaLite to design and market this weapon. I think the Air Force had something to do with it.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

27. The Charlie Hebdo assault and Paris nightclub attacks prove you wrong.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:18 PM

24. This evil bird sent his evil bird rays to incite violence with GUNZZZZZZZ

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

26. I voted no to be fair in my beliefs.

I also believe if there were no Triple A, there would be no car accidents.

And if there were no AARP there would be no people dying of old age.

They all have blood on their hands. Obviously.

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Response to swifty (Original post)

Tue Feb 27, 2018, 02:11 AM

34. Your sunk to the level of pure troll by now with no credibility

It cant be much plainer than that

Your OP's are a joke

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