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Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:53 PM

Radical plan to split California into three states earns spot on November ballot


John Myers
By JOHN MYERS
JUN 12, 2018
| SACRAMENTO

Radical plan to split California into three states earns spot on November ballot

Tim Draper, seen here submitting signatures for his earlier, six-state split of California in 2014, has qualified a three-state plan for California voters to consider on this November's ballot. (Rich Pedroncelli / AP)

California’s 168-year run as a single entity, hugging the continent’s edge for hundreds of miles and sprawling east across mountains and desert, could come to an end next year — as a controversial plan to split the Golden State into three new jurisdictions qualified Tuesday for the Nov. 6 ballot.

If a majority of voters who cast ballots agree, a long and contentious process would begin for three separate states to take the place of California, with one primarily centered around Los Angeles and the other two divvying up the counties to the north and south. Completion of the radical plan — far from certain, given its many hurdles at judicial, state and federal levels — would make history.

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It would be the first division of an existing U.S. state since the creation of West Virginia in 1863.


(Jon Schleuss / Los Angeles Times)

“Three states will get us better infrastructure, better education and lower taxes,” Tim Draper, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist who sponsored the ballot measure, said in an email to The Times last summer when he formally submitted the proposal. “States will be more accountable to us and can cooperate and compete for citizens.”


In the initiative’s introductory passage, Draper argues that “vast parts of California are poorly served by a representative government dominated by a large number of elected representatives from a small part of our state, both geographically and economically.”

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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-split-three-states-20180612-story.html

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Reply Radical plan to split California into three states earns spot on November ballot (Original post)
RCW2014 Jun 12 OP
Ilovestx Jun 12 #1
His Daughter Jun 12 #2
cologeek Jun 12 #3
Boadicea Jun 13 #12
Ilovestx Jun 12 #4
His Daughter Jun 13 #5
Ilovestx Jun 13 #6
foia Jun 13 #7
Zappa Dappa Doo Jun 13 #8
foia Jun 13 #9
Zappa Dappa Doo Jun 13 #10
foia Jun 13 #13
batcat Jun 13 #11

Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:14 PM

1. It will never pass.

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Response to Ilovestx (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

2. It could well pass in California

It will never pass the Senate

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:55 PM

3. I'm trying to remember where I heard this,

"A lot of Californians like where they live, they just don't like living in California." I agree with you, no way in hell will Democrats in the Senate allow their biggest solid block of electoral votes disappear.

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Response to cologeek (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:38 AM

12. I dont see this happening

No way will they give up those electoral college votes.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:56 PM

4. There just arent enough of the people that would vote for this in the state.

There just aren’t enough of the people that would vote for this in the state.They are far outnumbered by the people who will vote against this.

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Response to Ilovestx (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:03 AM

5. Californians have voted for stupider things...

The rest of the nation is not going to buy it. More West Coast senators? Not going to happen. Also the central valley would be in a position to stop things like the train to nowhere and the dumping of trash and stealing of resources by LADWP and others

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

6. Yep they voted for The unconstitutional Prop 8.

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:08 AM

7. Can we give SoCal to Mexico?

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Response to foia (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:19 AM

8. Great idea! Give 13% of the U.S. economy away!

Say, are you on the same Fortune 500 board of directors as Shkreli? Great minds both!

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Response to Zappa Dappa Doo (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:23 AM

9. It'd be worth it.

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Response to foia (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:35 AM

10. No doubt very well thought out on your part.

Pure facts, logic and reason vs. emotionalism.

I like that about the Cons posting here, by the way! Exemplars of why ah jess cain't be a Con.

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Response to Zappa Dappa Doo (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:53 AM

13. No doubt you lack a sense of humor. Typical liberal.

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Response to RCW2014 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 04:39 AM

11. If successful the California spit might lead to other states ...

with highly populated liberal urban areas doing the same.

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