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Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:55 AM

Let's say Trump gets Kim Jong-Un to go into real estate...

What happens to all Kim Jong-Un's crimes against humanity? Does Trump think he can pardon him too?

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Reply Let's say Trump gets Kim Jong-Un to go into real estate... (Original post)
okletstalk Jun 13 OP
foia Jun 13 #1
okletstalk Jun 13 #4
docgeezer Jun 13 #5
foia Jun 13 #7
okletstalk Jun 13 #9
foia Jun 13 #10
rampartb Jun 13 #2
okletstalk Jun 13 #3
fools_gold Jun 13 #6
okletstalk Jun 13 #8
Mad Dog 20-20 Jun 13 #11
uncledad Jun 13 #12

Response to okletstalk (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:58 AM

1. In 2020

Lefty will accuse NK of using Facebook to get Trump elected.

So that Trump can build a couple dozen beachfront condos there.

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Response to foia (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:15 AM

4. The real estate thing is just a metaphor.

The question is what happens to Kim Jong-Un's past crimes? Will they just be washed away if he denukes and brings in prosperity?

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Response to okletstalk (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:22 AM

5. Probably the same thing that happened

to Leonid Brezhnev's crimes, the Castro Bros. crimes, the Iranian ayatollas' crimes, Idi Amin's crimes (remember him? He literally ate his enemies in Uganda years ago. I believe he settled in France as part of an agreement to get him out of Uganda). As an alternative, we could go to war. Our nukes work, I've been told.

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Response to okletstalk (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:41 AM

7. Who has ever suggested that him denuking absolves him of NK's horrendous human rights record?

Should he be tried at The Hague before he is allowed to denuke?

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Response to foia (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:07 AM

9. Denuking does not absolve him. That is my point.

Kim Jong-Un is a dictator who has blood on his hands.

Dictators like him rely on their power to keep from paying for their crimes. If Kim denukes and opens up his country to the rest of the world he will be giving up some of his power. I'm saying he is unlikely to give up the power of his nukes, and that's why his commitment to denuke is so vague.

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Response to okletstalk (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:21 AM

10. He NEEDS China.

China wants him to denuke so the peninsula is more stable and they can sell more products. China will let him slide on the human rights stuff but in order to keep China on his side he needs to denuke. (at least that's what it looks like this week)

And it is not Trump's, nor the US's, job to play world policeman and bring the world's murderous tyrants to justice. It is Trump's job to deal with the nuclear threat to the US that KJU wanted to be.

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Response to okletstalk (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:04 AM

2. many developers commit crimes agaunst humanity

why should kim be exceptional?

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Response to rampartb (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:12 AM

3. They do????

We're talking about a cruel dictator that has killed his own people. If Trump convinces him to go all peaceful, does he have to pay for his crimes in the end? Or does he somehow get a pass?

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Response to okletstalk (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:34 AM

6. Who has the legal authority to prosecute KJU?

"The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

What Federal statute has KJU been charged with or convicted? How would he fall under Federal Jurisdiction?

How could Trump pardon him?

Be specific.

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Response to fools_gold (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:48 AM

8. OMG, it's a rhetorical question.

We all know Trump can't actually pardon him.

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Response to okletstalk (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:44 AM

11. Better not tell Trump that.

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Response to Mad Dog 20-20 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:37 PM

12. Trump has the biggests pardons than anyone else, everyone says so.

@Two scoops per pardon.

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