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Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:41 AM

has any act of "liberal violence" matched the oklahoma city bombing?

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or the bombing at the atlanta olympics? the shootings at abortion clinics? the burning of black churches or the church shooting in charleston?

or the anthrax letters? or the ricin letters?

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"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." matthew 3:5

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Reply has any act of "liberal violence" matched the oklahoma city bombing? (Original post)
rampartb Jun 2018 OP
Gunslinger201 Jun 2018 #1
JohnPoet Jun 2018 #2
Gunslinger201 Jun 2018 #3
TM999 Jun 2018 #4
Solesurvivor Jun 2018 #5
batcat Jun 2018 #6
bfox74 Jun 2018 #7
rampartb Jun 2018 #8
Dumper Jun 2018 #13
rampartb Jun 2018 #15
Nostrings Jun 2018 #23
foia Jun 2018 #9
foia Jun 2018 #10
rampartb Jun 2018 #14
foia Jun 2018 #20
rampartb Jun 2018 #28
foia Jun 2018 #31
rampartb Jun 2018 #34
foia Jun 2018 #35
rampartb Jun 2018 #36
foia Jun 2018 #39
rampartb Jun 2018 #40
foia Jun 2018 #46
Nostrings Jun 2018 #25
Sullivan Jun 2018 #21
Nostrings Jun 2018 #24
Sullivan Jun 2018 #26
Nostrings Jun 2018 #27
Sullivan Jun 2018 #29
Nostrings Jun 2018 #30
Sullivan Jun 2018 #41
Nostrings Jun 2018 #42
Gamle-ged Jun 2018 #11
JaimeBondoJr Jun 2018 #19
graham4anything4HC45 Jun 2018 #12
Shkreli Jun 2018 #16
rampartb Jun 2018 #17
Shkreli Jun 2018 #18
TheRalphWiggum Jun 2018 #22
liberalguy Jun 2018 #33
TheRalphWiggum Jun 2018 #37
liberalguy Jun 2018 #38
TendiesForBreakfast Jun 2018 #45
TheRalphWiggum Jun 2018 #47
MoshMasterD Jun 2018 #48
liberalguy Jun 2018 #32
MoshMasterD Jun 2018 #43
TendiesForBreakfast Jun 2018 #44

Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:47 AM

1. shoorungs ar abortion clinics?

Get some sleep

By the Way. Instead of CONDEMNING these acts (Like the Republicans did) the Democrats have embraced them

Kick us out of Restaurants? We'll Kick you out of Congress

They went WAY too far with this



Now get some sleep

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:49 AM

2. No....

unless you count the hurt feelings of conservative snowflakes--- then it's an absolute slaughterhouse!

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Response to JohnPoet (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:13 AM

3. They just don't listen....

Good


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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:23 AM

4. Strawman backed up by an out-of-context Biblical quote.

Could you be any more transparent in your defense of the indefensible?

Everyone on either side of the aisle condemned each and every one of those actions. But your side has decided since election night 2016 when the feckless cunt lost that Anti-fa violence is OK. That bike-locks and pepper spray are A-OK. That shooting up baseball fields is fine since well at some point in the past, some conservative asshole did some stupid violent shit. Y'all justify unprofessional behavior. You justify bigotry, intolerance, and the suppression of free speech.

Then you have the audacity to pretend that you are not the hypocrites you truly are. There is a fucking redwood in your eye.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:26 AM

5. Has the left apologized for the Unibomber yet?

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:46 AM

6. Of course not and we all should hope nothing like that occurs again. ...

However all the sheer hatred directed by the Democrats at Trump and his supporters could easily create violent attacks in our nation.

It is not wise for either Republicans or Democrats to pour gasoline on a fire for political gain. When it becomes common for people to consider Trump to be a modern day Hitler and his supporters to be Nazis it is possible that some unstable individuals may decide to take violent measures. Of course that comparison is absurd. However over the years I have heard people ask the question, “If you had been alive in Germany prior to WWII would you have attempted to stop Hitler and his supporters?”

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:54 AM

7. So you're condoning liberal fascist violence by equating it with a terrorist attack. Nice.

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Response to bfox74 (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:37 AM

8. i do not believer that "liberal fascist violence" is possible

but no, i do not approve of violence as long as electoral remedies are possible.

but read the posts by shreki calling for civil war etc. posts that are greeyed with a chorus of amens.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:25 AM

13. Huh? No violence unless U don't get your way???????

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Response to Dumper (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:29 AM

15. actually. i have never "gotten my way"

and have not participated in violence political violence.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:25 PM

23. There is a difference between calling for a civil war, and observing that one isn't far off.

Mad maxine is coming closer to calling for a civil war than anyone on this board, yet you have precisely fuckall to say about her.

Take a seat.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:55 AM

9. Many acts of leftist violence have far exceeded OK City

Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro and Chavez just to name a few.

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Response to foia (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 05:56 AM

10. Almost forgot

The KKK.

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Response to foia (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:26 AM

14. lolol

and conservatives like ivan the terrible or the isis caliph? considerably more blood is spilled maintaing a status quo than in progress.

were the confederates "liberal?" the jim crow south?

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Response to rampartb (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:58 AM

20. Conservatives believe in people being in charge of their own lives, not government

Conservatives were on the Union side. Do you know who our first Republican president was? (Hint: His image is on the US penny.)

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Response to foia (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:59 PM

28. lincoln was a conservative?

who led the big central gub'mint in 1861? who printed the greenbacks? who conscripted free individuals? who stole the sacred private property of the southerners with an executive order? (the emancipation proclamation?)

the republicans were quite radical in lincoln's day.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:25 PM

31. You consider freeing slaves to be a theft of private property?

LOL. (Yes, I know you were joking.)

Both sides of The Civil War utilized conscription.

Nixon campaigned on and then eliminated the draft in 1973. In recent years it's just about always been liberals suggesting that the draft be reinstated.

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Response to foia (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:40 PM

34. the confederates considered the slaves to be private property

and not quite human as well.

IF we are going to continue to fight wars on several fronts i do not think conscription can be avoided.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #34)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:44 PM

35. You're wrong

We avoided conscription when both the Iraq and Afghan wars were in full swing.

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Response to foia (Reply #35)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:50 PM

36. at a price

the units that were sent were sent repeatedly, straining the men (and women), their families, and their units.

were enough men ever available to occupy and pacify afghanistan or iraq?

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Response to rampartb (Reply #36)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:01 PM

39. But conscripting the unwilling leaves an undedicated force.with suboptimal results

As we saw in Vietnam.

Both of those countries are cluster***s due to their cultures and internal rivalries. And we were not in either country to occupy and oppress. Also our troops had very restrictive ROEs which hindered their effectiveness.

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Response to foia (Reply #39)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:15 PM

40. so there you have it

an insufficient nimber of volunteers are available to accomplish the missions necessary to win (in any meaningful way) these wars, so their continuation should, perhaps, be reexamined.

as a next question, suppose a "coalition of of the willing" attacks american interests on several fronts and with weapons equal to or superior to our own. how long would it take to raise and train, in the most rudimentary fashion, a sufficient force to keep dprk out of the south, china out of korea, and iranians out saudi arabia while discouraging russian invasion of ukraine?

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Response to rampartb (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 11:09 PM

46. Actually our troops did as well as could be expected under the circumstances and conscription

would not have helped. In fact, it probably would've made things worse.

And, back to my original point, the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century were all leftists.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:35 PM

25. Thats a reflection of what we already knew, and an admission of sorts.

"considerably more blood is spilled maintaing a status quo than in progress."

Thats because progressive far leftists have a tendency to make things bloody when they don't get their so called progress.

When you have an obama steering the country, progressive far leftists tend to be a more peaceful lot.


When you have a Trump steering the country toward a more sane path, well, bikelocks to heads, M-80s launched into crowds, rioting, burning, attempts to shut down conservative speakers, attempts to shout down and harass people in public, doxxing, shooting up republicans at baseball practice, and so on.

You really oughtn't have breached this topic.

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Response to foia (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

21. None of them were actual leftists. They all used the totalitarian tactics of Fascism and the Right.

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:27 PM

24. Collectivists all, just like the modern day left.

You can't spin that away.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:48 PM

26. Yeah, they collectively murdered millions.

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:49 PM

27. Like collectivists eventually do.

Let everyone know when you find a right leaning collectivist hereabouts, wont you?

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:01 PM

29. Many claimed collectivism. Many claimed free market.

Right wing totalitarianism resulting in fascism was the result with those leaders.

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:14 PM

30. The pile of 100+ million bodies at the feet of collectivists and collectivism speaks for itself.

What you can accurately pin on "right wing" is a drop of red in an otherwise very large blue ocean.

I imagine this is a maddening truth, to someone such as yourself.

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Response to Nostrings (Reply #30)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:33 PM

41. One of the first things totalitarians do is blame. Then they project. Then they deny.

Righty rails against liberals having no balls and wanting utopia, then in the next breath they are blaming 100 million bodies on them.

Credibility is never a strong point of the totalitarian.

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Response to Sullivan (Reply #41)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 04:46 PM

42. And just look at you, blaming righty, and deny deny denying.

"Credibility is never a strong point of the totalitarian."

Said the poster, gazing into a mirror...

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:15 AM

11. "Planned Parenthood," initiated by Liberal eugenicist, Margaret Sanger...

From her writing, The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda...
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As an advocate of Birth Control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the "unfit" and the "fit", admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation to the mentally and physically fit though less fertile parents of the educated and well-to-do classes. On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.
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Millions and millions of deaths, promulgated by Liberal governmental passage of legislation, using government to promote the most liberal application of the law, lauded by Liberals ON that liberal application as the Right to Choose those millions and millions of deaths of the most innocent...

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Response to Gamle-ged (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:39 AM

19. 10x worse, AND ongoing, AND constitutionally protected. No, rumpart ain't got an answer for that.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:21 AM

12. No.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:30 AM

16. We wont let it..

 

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Response to Shkreli (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:31 AM

17. lolololol. if it happens that keyboard won't save you.

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Response to rampartb (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 06:36 AM

18. Lol

 

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:00 PM

22. Omar Mateen tried

McVeigh was clearly awful. However, to call him conservative or Republican is not accurate.

This isn't a game, there are equally rotten people of most political persuasions

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Response to TheRalphWiggum (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:29 PM

33. McVeigh? Not conservative? Denial.

 

In April 1993, McVeigh headed for a farm in Michigan where Terry Nichols lived. In between watching coverage of the Waco siege on TV, Nichols and his brother began teaching McVeigh how to make explosives out of readily available materials; specifically, they combined household chemicals in plastic jugs. The destruction of the Waco compound enraged McVeigh and convinced him that it was time to take action. The government's use of CS gas on women and children angered McVeigh; he had been exposed to the gas as part of his military training and was familiar with its effects. The disappearance of certain evidence, such as the bullet-riddled steel-reinforced front door to the complex, led him to suspect a cover-up.

McVeigh's anti-government rhetoric became more radical. He began to sell Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) hats riddled with bullet holes and a flare gun, which, he said, could shoot down an "ATF helicopter". He produced videos detailing the government's actions at Waco and handed out pamphlets with titles like "U.S. Government Initiates Open Warfare Against American People" and "Waco Shootout Evokes Memory of Warsaw '43." He began changing his answering machine greeting every couple of weeks to various quotes by Patrick Henry such as "Give me liberty or give me death." He began experimenting with pipe bombs and other small explosive devices. The government also imposed new firearms restrictions in 1994 that McVeigh believed threatened his livelihood.

McVeigh dissociated himself from his boyhood friend Steve Hodge by sending him a 23-page farewell letter. He proclaimed his devotion to the United States Declaration of Independence, explaining in detail what each sentence meant to him. McVeigh declared that:

Those who betray or subvert the Constitution are guilty of sedition and/or treason, are domestic enemies and should and will be punished accordingly.

It also stands to reason that anyone who sympathizes with the enemy or gives aid or comfort to said enemy is likewise guilty. I have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic and I will. And I will because not only did I swear to, but I believe in what it stands for in every bit of my heart, soul and being. I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle, Steve. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets, Steve. Good vs. Evil. Free Men vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend.

McVeigh felt the need to personally reconnoiter sites of rumored conspiracies. He visited Area 51 in order to defy government restrictions on photography and went to Gulfport, Mississippi to determine the veracity of rumors about United Nations operations. These turned out to be false; the Russian vehicles on the site were being configured for use in U.N.-sponsored humanitarian aid efforts. Around this time, McVeigh and Nichols also began making bulk purchases of ammonium nitrate, an agricultural fertilizer, for resale to survivalists, since rumors were circulating that the government was preparing to ban it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#With_Nichols,_Waco_siege,_radicalization_and_first_explosive_devices

His rhetoric is indistinguishable from much of what is posted here.

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:15 PM

37. There is a huge difference between conservative and bat guano crazy

You won't convince me or normal functioning humans. So stop trying.

He was a fringe lunatic so far outside any conservative movement.

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Response to TheRalphWiggum (Reply #37)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 03:53 PM

38. Count the number of posts here eagerly awaiting violence.

 

Ask them if they're "real conservatives". I'll wait.

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:33 PM

45. Dude you were literally Nazi-Puncher-in-Chief for several months here.

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Response to TendiesForBreakfast (Reply #45)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:24 AM

47. And on other sites as well

The narrative is false. Occasionally fun to toy with them though.

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Response to liberalguy (Reply #38)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 07:24 PM

48. Links?

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:25 PM

32. Bombings? Shootings? Poisonings? Who cares? The press secretary had to eat dinner elsewhere!

 

Valiant troops! Mount your rascal scooters! To the battlements!

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:07 PM

43. Yep!

It's called Stalinism.

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Response to rampartb (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2018, 10:23 PM

44. Not for lack of trying.

BLM-inspired assassination of Dallas police officers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Young Turks fan kills some cops too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Baton_Rouge_police_officers

Revenge attack against NYPD for Eric Garner's death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_killings_of_NYPD_officers

Berkeley riots for which several Antifa members are on trial for either assault, battery, or attempted murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests

Anarchists terrorizing innocent people in DC during the Inauguration Day riots

https://wtop.com/dc/2017/11/inauguration-day-riot-trial-underway/

Anarchists caught plotting to unleash an acid attack on the DeploraBall.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Protester-Pleads-Guilty-to-Discussing-Inaugural-Ball-Plot-415715103.html

Bernie supporter attempting to mass murder Republican lawmakers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

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And you know what? That's just within the last two years.

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