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Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:55 PM

The Neoliberal DNC Is Still Trying to Declare #WalkAway to be a Kremlin Bot Op


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Response to Sibelian the White (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 04:57 PM

1. Those idiots don't even realize it started over two years ago...

...when they basically told the genuinely leftist portion of their constituency to fuck off.

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Response to Tovera (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:25 PM

8. I still think all this outlandish anti-Russian absurdity


is the detritus of the Snowden incident.

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Response to Sibelian the White (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:04 PM

2. Why is this in Politics? Shouldn't it be in Humor?

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Response to foia (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:16 PM

5. Well, yes, all the Russia narratives are farcical...


... but there you go. The DNC are still talking about them, so, well, it's technically still "politics".

I also very strongly suspect that most of the people still supporting the "Russians did it!" nonsense know perfectly well that it's nonsense and are perpetuating the pretence of their adherence to the theory because they've publically invested in it so heavily there's no way of backing down without looking unforgivably stupid. Nobody likes to look like they've been duped.

As far as I can see the anti-Russian sentiment started at the same time as the Snowden incident during one of Obama's terms (I forget which one). It was at that point that the Obamanauts started getting anti-Russian and constructing whatever they needed to suppose was sufficiently spooky and unwholesome about the Russians so as to make Obama retain his shininess by comparison. They've stuck with it ever since.

It wasn't even as if Snowden's revelations were particularly spicy, as I recall. Nothing like as damning as some of things that have been coming out more recently.

The D party loyals are an extremely peculiar breed. It is worth observing that they are a distinct portion of the left.

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Response to Sibelian the White (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:23 PM

7. You're right about anti-Trumpers having too much invested in the Russia, Russia, Russia thing

I post in another forum where I am decidely outnumbered by seething lefties who are absolutely convinced that someday Mueller will drop a giant hammer on Trump.

Whenever I confront them with facts or observations to the contrary they resort to nasty ad hominem attacks or accuse me of being a Putin troll.

It's fun to poke their hive though.

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Response to foia (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:38 PM

10. It's completely impossible to make them see that their thinking is transparent.

There are all sorts of things about Russia that make it a beautiful substitute for a realistic explanation for *anything*...

1. It's far away
2. It's full of weird foreign sounding people
3. They are known to have had various spooky political goings-on in the past

...etc. It's all a pile of total, utter shit, the whole thing.

I do not envy you your self-appointed task. I would have probably have seriously lost my temper with your "pals" a long time ago.

I spent a lot of time discussing this with people at the time along the lines of "Russia did it!" vs "no actually your candidate was just shit and the voting public saw through her".

I think we have to understand that it isn't their preconceptions about Trump or Russia or Hillary that motivates their ceaseless invention, it's their preconceptions about the American voting public, the public that didn't do what they wanted.

If the Russians DIDN'T hack the election they actually have to start talking to the dirty, *dirty*, DIRTY Trump voters to find out what they are thinking, which is impossible as the Trump voters are beneath them because they live in trailer parks, and drink moonshine, and are poor and therefore stupid and wave the stars and stripes about languidly and want to shoot people all the time and have funny accents and believe in "stereotypical" things, just like all the villains on their favourite scifi TV programmes.

Essentially, the "Russia did it!" crowd are just bigots.

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Response to Sibelian the White (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 06:08 PM

13. It's fun to poke them with facts and logic

Like a cat batting around a chew toy.

I've pointed out that what the Democrats have to offer (whatever that might be) isn't working as evidenced by Trump's victory and all of the state and local seats they've lost since 2010 but they just don't get it.

I let them know that, as a conservative, I take great joy in their denial and hope that the Democrats keep employing the same losing strategy.

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Response to foia (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:26 PM

9. Oh boy those salon morons

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Response to Sibelian the White (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:07 PM

3. LOL @ Lefty!!!

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Response to Sibelian the White (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:09 PM

4. Its really beginning to scare them

They NEED to “Throttle back” the Crazy but they have to get crazier or lose to Kavanaugh

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:20 PM

6. It's politically insensate gobbledegook.


They must be shitting bricks.

Are we supposed to assume that all those Youtube testimonials are trained Kremlin sleeper agents?

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the "professional" media outlets being asked to propagate this junk are privately squealing to be allowed to say something else.

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Response to Sibelian the White (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:50 PM

12. The Democratic media have only one set of customers, those who believe, or desperately WANT to...

... believe that America HASN'T seen through their smoke and mirrors. Those customers WANT to believe that their favored politicians WOULD win every important election if it weren't for some malevolent force (currently ROOSHIA!) that secretly steals the elections away.

If it weren't for this vast cabal against them, Democrats would be in charge everywhere and the Dem media would be reporting on their glorious victories. But they have NO victories, their power is diminished to near the point of demolition and all that media can report on is conspiracy and a continual stream of Republican victory.

So, it's conspiracy, then...

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Response to Sibelian the White (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2018, 05:48 PM

11. Someone needs to get this boy a shirt.

Ew.

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