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Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:12 PM

What jurisdiction does the FBI have over alleged STATE crimes beyond the St. of Lims?

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Reply What jurisdiction does the FBI have over alleged STATE crimes beyond the St. of Lims? (Original post)
Dumper Sep 13 OP
Gunslinger201 Sep 13 #1
His Daughter Sep 13 #2
_eek Sep 13 #3
Doctor_R Sep 13 #4
jh4freedom Sep 13 #5
Dumper Sep 14 #6
Carl Sep 14 #7

Response to Dumper (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:29 PM

1. absolutely none

but don't let facts stand in the way of a great story

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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:23 PM

2. Feds have jurisdiction, only if it is a Federal crime

Murder for example, is not normally a Federal crime.

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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:38 PM

3. She was very sly with her wording.

DiFi never actually said the FBI...


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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:49 PM

4. Here is the supposed "crime" he committed:

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Response to Dumper (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:50 PM

5. Its not that simple

There are many crimes where there can be joint federal and state jurisdiction. The most common is any felony crime that involved crossing state lines.
These acts of homicide (no Statute of Limitations for Homicide) can be investigated by the FBIand charged under federal law:
1. Murder of an Elected/Appointed Federal Official (18 U.S.C. Section 351, 1751)
2. Murder of a Federal Judge or Law Enforcement Official (18 U.S.C. Section 1114)
3. Killing of an Immediate Family Member of Law Enforcement Officials (18 U.S.C. Section 115(b)(3))
4. A Killing Designed to Influence the Outcome of a Court Case (18 U.S.C. Section 1512)
5. A Killing Committed During Bank Robbery (18 U.S.C. Section 1111)
6. Murder Related to Rape, Child Molestation, and Sexual Exploitation of Children (18 U.S.C. Section 2248, 2251)
7. Murder Aboard a Ship (18 U.S.C. Section 2280)
8. Drug-Related Murders (18 U.S.C. Section 36, 924(i))
9. Murder for Hire (18 U.S.C. Section 1958)
10. Murder by Mail (18 U.S.C. Section 1716)

Federal civil rights violations and federal hate crime violations can be added on to state charges. The kid in Charlottesville who drove the car into the crowd at Unite the Right had 31 federal hate crimes added on to his state homicide charge. The FBI did the investigating and turned over their evidence to the U.S. Attorney in Virginia.

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Response to jh4freedom (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 03:52 AM

6. Nice treatise, having NOTHING to do with this case.

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Response to Dumper (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:24 AM

7. You expected anything different from him?

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