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Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:07 PM

Trailblazing female who became infantry Marine is getting kicked out for fraternization

Remedios Cruz joined the Marine Corps in 2013 as a supply clerk. One year later, she completed infantry training, and in 2017, made history when she became one of three females to join 1st Battalion, 8th Marines at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

Now, Cruz is awaiting separation from the Marine Corps after pleading guilty to maintaining a romantic relationship with a subordinate.

Cruz, 26, eventually married the person, who was a lower-ranking Marine in her unit, according The New York Times.

“The biggest mistakes I’ve made in the infantry were from my personal relationships,” Cruz told the Times. “I really want to move on.”




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https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/09/12/trailblazing-female-who-became-infantry-marine-is-getting-kicked-out-for-fraternization/

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Reply Trailblazing female who became infantry Marine is getting kicked out for fraternization (Original post)
Doctor_R Sep 13 OP
_eek Sep 13 #1
Solesurvivor Sep 13 #2
Da Mannn Sep 13 #3
Gunslinger201 Sep 13 #4
His Daughter Sep 13 #5
Gunslinger201 Sep 14 #7
His Daughter Sep 14 #10
Bob the Bilderberger Sep 13 #6
Gunslinger201 Sep 14 #8
uncledad Sep 14 #9

Response to Doctor_R (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:24 PM

1. Shocked face....

Men and Women.. they like to fuck, and are likely to do it with people they see the most..

Human nature, people don't think it be like it is, but it do..

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Response to Doctor_R (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:29 PM

2. This is why mixing the sexes in such situations

Is a very bad idea

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Response to Doctor_R (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:54 PM

3. Uncomfortable truth: Combat is for men. Period.

I believe in equal rights...but combat was never meant for mixed genders.
This includes trannys, gays and all the other mental illnesses as well.

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Response to Doctor_R (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:12 PM

4. When I was in the Navy I always wondered....

If 2 Enlisted People got Married...and later one of them got a Commission...would they be guilty of fraternization?

This is one of those "Unintended Consequences" that Knee Jerk reactions to Sexual Harassment brings

Case by Case is the way to handle shit....not Zero Tolerance "Blanket Spanks"

"We Bone Our Own"

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:26 PM

5. The answer to your question is no, and it has happened

A common one is a couple is married and the husband is enlisted. She is a nurse, who gets a BSN before signing up. She would be an officer (0-1). The military within limits will do what it can to station them together.

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Response to His Daughter (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:01 AM

7. and yet I saw a Male Petty Officer and a Female O-2 investigated

because someone had said they were having a relationship (they were)

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Response to Gunslinger201 (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:07 AM

10. Timing is the key

If the relationship was established prior to one of them joining the military/commissioning, it is fine. The military normally does not recognize living together for benefits etc or in this case either. Engaged might be the corner case. though the smart answer would be to get legally married before commissioning.

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Response to Doctor_R (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:30 PM

6. When I was an E-5 in the Navy

stationed at Subase New London, I had a fling with my boss, a married young LtJG. She gives me a hardon today just thinking about her. Her husband was a Lt. stationed on the boats. He was at sea, and, well ...

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Response to Bob the Bilderberger (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 04:02 AM

8. Spoken like a Sailor

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Response to Doctor_R (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:59 AM

9. Test case.

The officer overseeing a pretrial hearing found no probable cause for the adultery and larceny charges, and recommended that Corporal Cruz be administratively punished for fraternizing with a man she had married before she was accused.

But her battalion commander, Lt. Col. Anthony C. Johnston, recommended that all three charges go to trial — giving her the choice of going to court and risking conviction, or admit to fraternization as part of a broader plea agreement.

Mike Berry, a reservist Marine Corps judge advocate, said it was rare for a commander to recommend a court-martial after a pretrial hearing had already concluded that there was no probable cause for multiple charges.

Days after she arrived at the battalion in January 2017, she was promoted to sergeant — a rank that probably ensured, as a Marine in an infantry platoon, that she would be considered for a leadership role.

She said she began a relationship with a lower-ranking Marine in her unit and married him shortly before the battalion deployed to Japan in August 2017. Not until she was overseas did senior commanders become aware of the relationship, and opened an investigation.

Both the commanding officer of the Fourth Marine Regiment and the commanding general of the Third Marine division — two senior officers above Colonel McClam while his battalion was deployed to Okinawa — recommended no disciplinary action.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/12/us/politics/women-marines-infantry-discharge-.html

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