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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:18 PM

Bar shooter was a PTSD mess.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ian-david-long-identified-as-suspect-in-thousand-oaks-california-mass-shooting-today-live-updates-2018-11-08/

Sad. We should have done something.

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Reply Bar shooter was a PTSD mess. (Original post)
Let it go Thursday OP
Ilovestx Thursday #1
Hamer555 Thursday #2
bruiserboy Thursday #3
Carl Thursday #5
CokeMachine1 Thursday #20
Hamer555 Thursday #21
Cynical Thursday #4
Hamer555 Thursday #6
Independent.mind Thursday #7
Ilovestx Thursday #8
Independent.mind Thursday #9
Muddling Through Thursday #10
Ilovestx Thursday #12
Independent.mind Thursday #16
Charlie Mike Thursday #17
Independent.mind Thursday #18
Banshee 3 Actual Thursday #11
Muddling Through Thursday #14
Ilovestx Thursday #15
Banshee 3 Actual Thursday #19
Muddling Through Thursday #22
Steelydamned Thursday #13

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Response to Let it go (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:28 PM

2. poster above me deserves a ban for the removed post.

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Response to Hamer555 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:32 PM

3. Agreed

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Response to Hamer555 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:39 PM

5. Skins ignores this place so won't happen.

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Response to Hamer555 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:43 PM

20. His name at DU is BeagleLover

Maybe a member over there could bring it up with him and/or skinner? There was another poster (beekeeper) here that posted similar shit and he was removed after posters at DU contacted skinner.

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Response to CokeMachine1 (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:53 PM

21. I would be happy to help get this poster banned, but no DU account.

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Response to Let it go (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:36 PM

4. Somewhere along the line someone saw something and did nothing

In the vast majority of mass shootings, there were actionable warning signs that if acted upon, probably could have prevented the shooting. Sadly, people chose, for a number of reasons*, not to act.


*Some, but certainly not all of the reasons: they think the person would never actually commit such an atrocity; it's their child and they don't want to mess up their child's life; it would take too much work to try and get them committed; they don't want to risk being sued for trying to get the person committed.

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Response to Cynical (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:41 PM

6. I am not sure....Are you saying that people should have their guns taken from them based on -

based on their coworker thinking they have been a little different lately or something like that?

I understand that there is a mental health element to nearly all of the mass shootings, but I feel like what you are suggesting is that one of this guys friends, family, or co workers could have made a phone call or two and had this guy locked up, or had his guns taken away, and the law just doesn't allow for that in America.

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Response to Let it go (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:46 PM

7. I have not read anything stating he had been diagnosed with PTSD and was undergoing treatment

If that is the case this may have been preventable had he been getting the help he needed.

In any event this is a tragedy and my thoughts and sympathies are with all impacted by it.

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Response to Ilovestx (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:51 PM

9. Eat shit

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:00 PM

10. I fully concur. Alerted, bad faith.

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Response to Muddling Through (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:07 PM

16. MY post was alerted???

You have got to be kidding me!

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:08 PM

17. It was. I voted bad faith because the shit eater should eat shit.

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Response to Charlie Mike (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:11 PM

18. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised but what the hell

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Response to Independent.mind (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:01 PM

11. Well Said, I bet it chows down on some nice curly and asks for seconds

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:06 PM

14. ILuvDix is a fucking loser.

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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:30 PM

19. Its blowing into a dogs starfish right now like a bugle

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Response to Banshee 3 Actual (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:36 PM

22. Heh.

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Response to Let it go (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:05 PM

13. As usual...

...speculation may be fun but, we truly don't know. Could be PTSD; could be something far more mundane like a woman at that club that broke his heart or something.

There's no real way to predict these thing and moreover, when the shooter offs themselves or is killed by law enforcement, it's likely we may never know his motivation. I mean, there are still tons of question about the Las Vegas shooting.

Sometimes, we want immediate answers when none may ever be forthcoming.

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