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Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:15 PM

Yep, Arizona just flipped to the Dem...

https://results.arizona.vote/#/featured/4/0

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Reply Yep, Arizona just flipped to the Dem... (Original post)
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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:18 PM

1. Nice.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:22 PM

3. It's 46-51, correct?

Arizona and Florida aren't counted? Who else? Georgia?

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Response to blue (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:26 PM

5. Not really sure

I’ll take your word...

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Response to blue (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:29 PM

8. No Senate race in GA; the Governor's race is "undecided" pending certification.

Looks like Kemp will manage to avoid a runoff. The number of outstanding absentee and provisional ballots aren't enough to force a runoff.

At this point, Abrams is trying to gin up support for a Jill Stein "go fund meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" campaign.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:21 PM

2. looks like they "found" the votes they were looking for...

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:27 PM

6. All valid votes should be counted,,eh?

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:05 PM

19. The votes need to be scrutinized.

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Response to PrescientWon. (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:07 PM

20. Just the ones for sinema, eh?

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:08 PM

22. all, of course.

Remember, the woman in front of me on Tues filled out a provisional ballot and admitted that her mail-in ballot was in the car.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:22 PM

4. Any more votes to count?

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:44 PM

13. I have no idea. They've counted at least 30 votes since I first posted.



Someone said there are 350K early votes/absentee still to count.

Don't know how reliable any of that is.

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Response to Solesurvivor (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:07 PM

21. Like a half million more.

This batch was expected to be pro-Sinema.

Others will be pro-McSalley.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:28 PM

7. And the count goes on for the Senate.

As well as for Governor and the House! The election isnt over.

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Response to Lifelong (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:33 PM

10. I heard the house is up to 35 now.

Biggest gains for Dems since Nixon. I know the R’s want to make it seem like no big thing but it’s actually quite an accomplishment.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:36 PM

11. Given the dem losses in midterms it really is not.

And the philosophical make up of the House is not yet established.

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Response to Carl (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:48 PM

14. Its all relative I suppose.

The one thing I’ll say about the house is that I’d like every damn district in this country redrawn. IMHO, it should look as grid-like as possible. All the gerrymandering pisses me off.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:55 PM

15. You would have to repeal the voting rights act for that.

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Response to Carl (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:44 AM

43. Thats bizarre.

I don’t see how redistricting threatens anyone’s voting rights.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:53 AM

44. Creating minority majority districts via gerrymandering was mandated by it.

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Response to Carl (Reply #44)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:06 AM

46. I didnt realize that. Wow.

Repeal the damn thing then. That’s ridiculous.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:43 AM

48. Think of a pie.

In the center of the pie are minority voters. Clustered in urban sections of a state.

As you go away from the center, there are less and less minority voters.

By slicing the pie into wedges, the more slices, the less minority voters are represented.

That's how minority voters were under represented, as say 15% were inside a slice of the pie cut into 9 slices.

The solution was to place a larger number of minority voters into slices that would represent those voters.

Made for odd shaped voting districts, but helped even out voter under representation in districts altogether.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:16 PM

36. Please do, you'd lose Illinois next election

Gerrymandering is not exclusively a GOP thing.

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Response to DP46 (Reply #36)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:42 AM

42. Id lose?

I voted for the libertarian candidate. They always lose.

Adding: I know it’s not just a GOP thing and I don’t care.

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Response to Ruby (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:18 AM

47. Obviously you don't care, you vote Libertarian

One of my sister's votes Libertarian every election. What she really means is ...

"Look at me, I'm highly principled, smarter than you and pissing away my vote every election so I can whine and bitch about who ever wins.. I feel superior to the rest of you."

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Response to DP46 (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:11 PM

50. Or maybe has serious problems with both major parties.

I like guns, but don't want my daughter to be told she can't control her body according to her conscience.

I like a strong military, but don't want them to be used as an extension of any POTUS' penis.

There are many things I agree with from both parties, but just as many I strongly disagree with from both.

Her vote, and my vote are mine to cast as we choose. If we choose to not support the party you do, or even withold our votes, they are not wasted.

I can just as easily say that letting anyone so entitled and arrogant to vote is pissing it away.. But I am a strong supporter of freedom, even when it sucks that the likes of you get to vote as well.

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Response to DP46 (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:43 PM

51. This was my first time.

I did it because I’m sick of both major parties and I didn’t really care who won my house race. Congress barely functions these days.

And no, I don’t think I’m better than anyone. I just won’t have my vote being taken for granted. I’ve voted straight D all my life. No more.



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Response to Ruby (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:44 PM

12. None sweeter than booting Dave Brat.

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Response to TheShoe (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:47 AM

49. He got to serve two terms.

That should have been enough if he truly believed in less government and term limits. just sayin'...

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Response to Ruby (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:00 PM

17. The biggest gains in 40 years.

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Response to Lifelong (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:55 AM

45. In other words for 42 years you have been losing.

What does a popular vote for Senate mean anywhere?

Find a civics book.

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Response to Lifelong (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:14 PM

34. You really should educate yourself before commenting.

There are still 500,000 plus votes to count and they are from counties that strongly favored McSally. This is not anywhere near done.

GA governor will be a Republican. The bitch just refused to concede. She will eventually.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 07:57 PM

16. She literally just gained like 7000 votes. 100% reporting.



Oh my.

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Response to blue (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:04 PM

18. "She literally just gained like 7000 votes"

Gee, imagine that.
Call me shocked.
At least republicans didn't lose anything. a filthy lefty RINO has had that seat for years

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:09 PM

23. The recount will continue for a week to 10 days.

There are literally half a million votes that remain to be counted.

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Response to rh24 (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:14 PM

24. It says 100% reported.

How do you know that?

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Response to blue (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:12 PM

31. I know it is not 100% reporting because I fucking live here.

There are still 500,000 plus ballots to be tabulated. And the counties outstanding are those that favor McSally.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:13 PM

33. I wasn't being accusatory. I was just asking a question.

Thanks for the information.

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Response to blue (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:17 PM

38. Ok, cool.

It is often quite rancorous here.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:08 AM

40. ...

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Response to TM999 (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:15 PM

35. calm down.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:12 AM

41. The main county outstanding is Maricopa and it is a mixed bag. Not all of the county favored her.

City of Phx is quite blue, as is Tempe. Plus Arizonans have a contrary streak and sometimes do the opposite of what is expected. Sinema could win it.

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Response to blue (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 12:07 AM

39. The 100% is for votes cast on Tuesday, the remaing are mail in/early ballots.

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Response to rh24 (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:14 PM

25. I'd pay good money for the truth on how many of those votes are non-citizens too

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Response to MumblyPeg (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:18 PM

26. +9610 now.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:55 PM

28. Likely to stay Dem at this point...


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Just got a text that Pima County (Tucson) numbers just came in and Sinema is now up by 9,000. Very unlikely McSally wins at this point. The trend will likely continue.

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Response to blue (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:11 PM

30. She is wrong.

Pima is indeed done and Sinema was expected to win there. It is blue Tucson full of illegals and sanctuary status after all.

Maricopa county has been very closely split so it is not the decider either. It is now the other counties like Pinal that will be tabulated overnight into tomorrow. Pinal is very red and McSally is already trouncing Sinema there. A less than 10,000 vote difference can easily be made up when there are still 500,000 plus ballots to be tabulated.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:09 PM

29. No, it did not.

There are still over a half a million votes to be counted.

It was expected that Sinema would surge ahead today (only 9600 votes though) given the counties ballots being entered. Tomorrow's ballots now favor McSally as they are from strongly red thresholds. This is not over by a long shot.

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Response to TM999 (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:12 PM

32. I'll take your word for it.

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Response to blue (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:16 PM

37. Really, just read our local reporters, newspapers

and their respective websites. Arizona is fucked up when it comes to provisionals, early, absentee, drop offs, etc.

On election night we were all told here that given how close the race was that it would be highly unlikely that it would be certified for the winner (even without a recount!) before next week.

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Response to blue (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:07 PM

52. She's up 21,000+

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