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Tue Jan 8, 2019, 08:48 PM

I wish President Trump would stop acting like a Democrat

His rationale for building the wall is based on emotion when it should be based on rational economics.

Immigrants commit crimes and terrorism seem to be his main focus - fear-based emotional arguments. Democrats' trademark. He sounds like Nancy Pelosi..

A much more rational case for the building the wall to slow ILLEGAL immigration is:

1 - Unskilled illegals flooding the low end labor market driving down wages which disadvantages poor, unskilled Americans.

2 - The cost of illegals on our schools, healthcare, etc...

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Response to foia (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 08:52 PM

1. If the illegals were a net positive we would welcome them

Also, the 9/11 Commission recommended a wall to help thwart terrorists. That is why it was authorized in 2006 by these feckless cunts.

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Response to foia (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:21 PM

2. Populace is too dumb to understand economics of labor.

That’s why they can be sold on a minimum wage of $15. Stone cold reason goes over their head.

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Response to Let it go (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:44 PM

3. I think poor people know damned well who is taking their jobs

They may not understand labor markets but they know Juan is stealing their job by getting paid less.

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Response to foia (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:47 PM

4. I dont think they can extrapolate that to the impact on their wage.

They see someone doing a job they wouldn’t do for THAT wage. They don’t see the depression of their wages due to the excess labor.

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Response to foia (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:52 PM

5. His rationale for building the wall is based on emotion when it should be based on...

Rationale?

Rational?

You're talking about Trump, right? And calling him out for "fear-based emotional arguments."

Yeah, so you haven't noticed that this has been how Trump has been playing Righty from the start?

That aside, as far as your precious fucking wall goes, an opinion based on "rational economics" has to revolve around the cost of said wall against how much of the identified issue it corrects. Since it's about a 50/50 split as far as how illegals enter the country (southern border vs. other ways of getting in) it sure seems to me that the wall is a pointless boondoggle if there's ever been one.

Who the fuck spends billions upon billions to half fix a problem?

Righty, if there's enough "emotion" driven into the argument.

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Response to Real-life karma (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:59 PM

6. Trump's done plenty of things that are economically rational

Reducing regulation to make it easier to do business and compete.

Renegotiated trade deals with Canada and Mexico.

Got us out of the Paris Wealth Redistribution Accord

Getting NATO members to pull their own weight more

To name a few

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Response to Real-life karma (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:28 PM

7. lol @ the racist NPC for not having an issue with the US spending 100's of billions on illegals.

 

Yet, bitching that spending 20 billion is only a half measure lol

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Response to specs (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

8. lol indeed specs

is specs and abbreviation of some sort of SPECiouS?

There you go calling me a racist again. Your logic for doing so is certainly SPECiouS.

There you go telling me what I believe again. How do you know I have "not an issue" with the dollar total being spent on illegals? You of course don't, and your logic for saying so (and the dollar figure quoted) is certain to be SPECiouS.

Have a great night SPECiouS Clay. Someday you'll float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

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Response to foia (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

9. Crowds are swayed by emotion, not logic.

Trump is not going for the professorial stance, he is going for the heartstrings of average Americans who are scared and angry about illegals stealing their jobs, raping their daughters, and murdering their sons.

He is a master influencer. This was step one, and it was very well executed. Just look at the drooling liberal moron responses here tonight. They have nothing of substance to rebut with. Look at the Schumer/Pelosi response. It was a fucking train-wreck. Now the media will play these clips over and over for the next few days. Trump is still playing chess while these dumb-asses are playing checkers.

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